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    Lshak
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    @barrettone 539003 wrote:

    I’ve broken through on DMT. What’s supposed to happen that is meant to make me believe? Psychedelics are a subjective experience after all.

    I don’t know I didn’t breakthrough and I’m glad I didn’t, but from what I’ve read and been told you contact higher spiritual beings, in islam we call them jinn.

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    Lshak
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    @barrettone 539015 wrote:

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it….for it is required for graduation.

    But seriously the “don’t look at the past” view forgets that we’re meant to learn from it to apply to the present to secure the future.

    That’s interesting, my uncle who is very spiritual also believes similarily to this.

    Learn from your mistakes, just don’t dwell in them. If you break up with your GF/BF don’t sulk over it move on, if you lose your job get back to the job market and find another one, etc …

    #1270397
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    Lshak
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    @The Psyentist 539058 wrote:

    Are you not doing the precise opposite of this by following the guidance of an ancient book?

    Regarding your own life, don’t look back and think, oh .. I wish that went differently, because it didnt, so move on

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    The Psyentist
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    @lshak 539200 wrote:

    Regarding your own life, don’t look back and think, oh .. I wish that went differently, because it didnt, so move on

    Are you assuming I live a life of regret because I certainly didn’t say that. Maybe you feel the need for religious teachings to feel comfortable and content with your life but I don’t.

    #1270275
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    p0ly
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    SPANNER IN THE WORKS OF NICE PV CIVIL CHATTER. Islam is a sick and twisted text which people like Lshak follow cos they are 1 stupidly afraid of hell and think theyre saving themselves for 72 penis virgins or 2 they dont want to admit their whole family are mislead dumb gullible idiots so join in with them and SUBMIT TO THE GREATEST! Pathetic shit really so glad i’m not born into a dumbass religous upbringing. Lshak YOU KNOW YOU ONLY FOLLOW COS YOUR FAMILY DO. IF THEY DIDN’T NO WAY WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER IT BEING TRUE. FACT. guess what the dictionary was written by the Dic God… it’s a gay religion JOIN US

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    @mr207 539139 wrote:

    Wow Pat, great words, exactly what I was thinking. This debate is never ending. You believe what you believe. I’m not asking anyone to change their beliefs.. I’m backing up my opinion, which is what everyone should do. I have strong faith and reasoning in this that maybe only I will ever understand, and that’s all that matters. God hasn’t come into your lives because you won’t let him, but I respect everyone’s opinions. Let’s just all get along, everyone here is awesomeeee πŸ™‚

    THE DEBATE IS NOT NEVER ENDING. INTERNET AND FREE INFORMATION IS MAKING AGNOSTIC/ATHEIST BELIEF DEMOGRAPHIC THE LARGEST IN GROWTH AND GETTING FASTER. 2006 BEST SELLING BOOK…. DAWKINS – GOD DELUSION. HITCHENS ALSO STILL BIG AND RELEVANT AFTER DEATH. REAL SCIENTIST THOUGHT IS THE FUTURE FOR REAL PROGRESSION THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION IS A FACT! JUST COS WE HAVE NO PHOTOS AND VIDEOS OF TRILLIONS OF YEARS OF PAST DONT MEAN THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING FAAAAAAAAAACT. PUT PEOPLE ON THE MOON, SPLIT ATOMS, REALISE QUANTUM THEORY BUT CAN’T WORK OUT CLEAR INDICATIONS OF HUMAN ORIGIN… YEAH GO BELIEVE YOUR DUMB FUK REDNECK CHURCH MINISTER THEYRE REAL SMART THEY CAN REEEEAD DA BIBZLEZ

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    @barrettone 539145 wrote:

    Plenty of atheist or agnostic thinkers have offered moral codes and philosophies. Kant, Sartre, and Nietzsche among them. Although I think the problem here is lumping “atheists” into one cohesive group. The only thing all atheists will have in common is lack of belief in a deity, much like the only thing that all “people who do not watch tennis” have in common is…not watching tennis. You don’t necessarily need religion to have morals. The moral code of the Bible says slavery is ok and you can sell your daughter. Clearly I would reckon that most people nowadays would not be cool with that. Individuals will have different perceptions of what is right and wrong and it can be based on religion or it can come from somewhere else. Personally I have the argument because it’s nice to know what the other side thinks. It’s never good to be stuck in an echo chamber.

    If atheism is a belief then OFF is a TV channel.

    #1270497
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    Chrispydelic
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    P0ly is back and is as diplomatic as ever! πŸ˜‰

    Welcome back dude.

    #1270460
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    Pat McDonald
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    @lshak 539198 wrote:

    … in islam we call them jinn.

    Djinn. English is “genies”. Some of them serve the Most High too, remember.

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    Pat McDonald
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    @p0ly 539682 wrote:

    If atheism is a belief then OFF is a TV channel.

    Sure it’s a belief. You can’t disprove, theists can’t prove, so your stuck in a rut denying any kind of belief because that would make you a human being who is fallible.

    Guess what? We’re all fallible human beings. I am aware that you like being treated “like a God” and have posted as much. Tough shit. You are not.

    Anyway, achievement and doing count for far more than beliefs or non-beliefs. πŸ™‚

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    MR207
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    yeah.. p0ly is back-___-

    #1270398
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    Lshak
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    @The Psyentist 539284 wrote:

    Are you assuming I live a life of regret because I certainly didn’t say that. Maybe you feel the need for religious teachings to feel comfortable and content with your life but I don’t.

    Not at all man, everyone thinks, oh I wish I did that or this, maybe not you. I know I used to, now I just think it all brought me to where I am now so I’m pretty damn happy.

    Not saying a life of regret but maybe something like, regret not trying harder in school, a job, etc.. I have, but I’m over that now

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    Lshak
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    @mr207 539763 wrote:

    yeah.. p0ly is back-___-

    Oh great.

    #1270400
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    Lshak
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    @Pat McDonald 539733 wrote:

    Guess what? We’re all fallible human beings. I am aware that you like being treated “like a God” and have posted as much. Tough shit. You are not.

    Anyway, achievement and doing count for far more than beliefs or non-beliefs. πŸ™‚

    You always take the words right out my mouth lol

    Pay, you talk so much sense man, very philosophical guy, unlike my ‘friend’ p0ly here, called a philosopher but really just splurts out shit lol

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    Lshak
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    @p0ly 539682 wrote:

    If atheism is a belief then OFF is a TV channel.

    The best tv channel, and the best post I’ve seen from you recently

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    Lshak
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    @Pat McDonald 539732 wrote:

    Djinn. English is “genies”. Some of them serve the Most High too, remember.

    If you’ve seen the vid on ‘Terence mckenna on dmt’ he explains on a breakthrough these entities/Djinn jump in and out of your chest… Sounds like possession to me.. I had a near escape

    Yeah of course man, I find them interesting, but they are quite scary thinking of how they can be all around us, people thinking they see ghosts is actually them, surely.

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    Lshak
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    @Pat McDonald 539732 wrote:

    Djinn. English is “genies”. Some of them serve the Most High too, remember.

    If you’ve seen the vid on ‘Terence mckenna on dmt’ he explains on a breakthrough these entities/Djinn jump in and out of your chest… Sounds like possession to me.. I had a near escape

    Yeah of course man, I find them interesting, but they are quite scary thinking of how they can be all around us, people thinking they see ghosts is actually them, surely.

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    Chrispydelic
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    @lshak 539796 wrote:

    If you’ve seen the vid on ‘Terence mckenna on dmt’ he explains on a breakthrough these entities/Djinn jump in and out of your chest… Sounds like possession to me.. I had a near escape

    Yeah of course man, I find them interesting, but they are quite scary thinking of how they can be all around us, people thinking they see ghosts is actually them, surely.

    Dude, it’s called HALLUCINATING! Definition: experiencing things that ARE NOT REAL!

    It’s the awesome power of the human brain dude.

    #1270404
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    Lshak
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    Well then.. Fuck that shit…!!

    Rather keep my mind in reality, except for dreams, I like dreams πŸ™‚

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    MR207
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    @lshak 539961 wrote:

    Well then.. Fuck that shit…!!

    Rather keep my mind in reality, except for dreams, I like dreams πŸ™‚

    Dreams are better than reality lol, reality sucks because it reveals truth that we don’t want to hear, so I dream, and then I day dream

    #1270500
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    Chrispydelic
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    @lshak 539961 wrote:

    Well then.. Fuck that shit…!!

    Rather keep my mind in reality, except for dreams, I like dreams πŸ™‚

    Dreams are merely unconscious hallucinations!

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    Lshak
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    @mr207 540172 wrote:

    Dreams are better than reality lol, reality sucks because it reveals truth that we don’t want to hear, so I dream, and then I day dream

    Ok let me paraphrase – “it’s good to dream, just not forcefully, without using drugs” πŸ˜‰

    #1270501
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    Chrispydelic
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    It’s good to experience as much of what the mind is capable of as possible. Otherwise how can we ever possibly know what we can achieve?

    It’s an incredible instrument, let’s try to use ALL of the notes instead of just three or four!

    What is reality anyway? Yours is very different to mine. Prove to me that you are even real!

    Watch BBC Horizon “what is reality?” and even Horizon “do you see what I see?” for further illumination.

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    Pat McDonald
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    @chrispydelic 539900 wrote:

    Dude, it’s called HALLUCINATING! Definition: experiencing things that ARE NOT REAL!

    It’s the awesome power of the human brain dude.

    Try Tart, “Altered States of Consciousness”. And if human brains are so awesomely powerful, why don’t I have a powerstation wired to my head, eh?

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    Pat McDonald
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    @lshak 539795 wrote:

    If you’ve seen the vid on ‘Terence mckenna on dmt’ he explains on a breakthrough these entities/Djinn jump in and out of your chest… Sounds like possession to me.. I had a near escape

    Yeah of course man, I find them interesting, but they are quite scary thinking of how they can be all around us, people thinking they see ghosts is actually them, surely.

    Pfft. Consider the parable (story, not seeking to upset Atheists) of Jesus meeting the Devil.

    Does Jesus curse him or spit on him or look down on him? Does he get angry or afraid?

    No. Jesus behaves with respect. Not love, not worship, not hate. Just accepts them for what they are, up to the point where the Devil asks a favour.

    Get my drift? All this fear and loathing business is just avoidance. The Unseen is, no point trying to label it or pigeonhole it. We can try to understand it, in a very limited way at best.

    Pointless asking me about a TV programme. I don’t have or watch TV.

    But I do understand about the chest and the heart… blood circulates, yes? Heart is a muscle, needs electricity to tense and relax.

    Pretty much, our central nervous systems and blood circulation acts like radio transceivers.

    That’s not to say that JUST electromagnetic radiation is being pushed out and received by all of is – there are other radiations too.

    But it’s a big part of explaining what is really going on (and remember, we are all currently operating within the Earth’s own geomagnetic field).

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