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  • #1270250
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    thelog
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    The Ketamine Gods are watching.

    #1270351
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    Lshak
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    @savvydravvy 537965 wrote:

    So all three are real? Not just one of them!? :/

    Yes, but like everything evolution took its course, and the Torah and bible (old testimony) expired and had to be renewed, so in a sense all 3 religions Judaism, Christianity and islam are all the true religions.

    Except in the Torah, it told the people Jesus would be the next prophet (maybe not exactly the same name) then in the old testimony it said there would be a final messenger named ‘Ahmed’ (Mohammed) and you should follow your way to this final religion. Unfortunately most people have not read the holy books correctly and missed these very important guidances out. And then a new Bible was written to purposely miss that out perhaps.

    Christianity was the correct religion 2000 years ago, Jews before and now islam. The other 2 religions have expired and unfortunately people chose not to follow gods will even though it was written in their books for them. Bless the all and hopefully they find the right path, and read these facts for themselves.

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    Lshak
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    @DeezNuts 537984 wrote:

    How do you know that that is the case? Were you there when they were supposedly given these prophecies? Didn’t think so.

    I have actually been given a prophecy too. I was told by Jahizzamickerutomakaak the 1st (Bless his soul) that tommorow will be the 5th of April

    I will keep a keen eye out for DIDLE when it is widespread like islam, and when that day comes. I will personally apologise to you, but until that day comes, good luck with explaining your blasphemy to god, wouldn’t it be humiliating to be humiliated by the most forgiving and merciful being in the universe?

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    Lshak
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    @savvydravvy 538043 wrote:

    Its not a case of reading one article and deciding yes or no. So to just dismiss what could be a valid explanation with ‘no.’ without any evidence that says otherwise is strange to me.

    As well as the fact that neither you nor I actually know what did happen at that specific point, so id rather read the article by someone who specialises in that specific field. If i were christain/catholic/jewish etc I would CONSTANTLY be looking at the evidence that contradicts my faith, in order to form my own judgement and know that im not just blindly followly something.

    I think if you look at my previous posts around te forum you will notice I am a very opinionated person, and very deep. I question everything I see and hear, and religion is my final conclusion in which I’m still questions things inside it and can’t find no alternative, I will soon put up scientific proof 🙂

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    korno
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    Are you actually going to leave then Lshak? Because it appears to me that if you reeeeeeeeally wanted to go, you’d go, but you can’t seem to pry yourself away from here by the looks of things :laugh_at::devil_wag
    Anywho, i don’t think you should leave as it’s still an opinionated forum, we talk about lots of stuff, and although you’ve chosen to quit drugs – you still have experience and therefore you can lend your advice to younglings that come in here asking questions.
    What do ya reckon?

    #1270251
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    thelog
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    Lshak, I was raised roman catholic and went to a catholic school. I Also went to church every sunday plus all those extras like ash wednesday etc. I was forced to believe in some guy who could break the laws of physics, and given false hope that no matter how much of a cunt I am, if i’m truly sorry for my sins I will still be forgiven. Thus allowing for whatever crime I want.

    Basically once I was confirmed, I then had the choice if I wanted to continue with the church. I stayed for a short while but but has long before abandoned my faith. I don’t want to be seen as knocking your religion or anything like that, but seriously, read between the lines. Prophets do not and never have existed.

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    Deez
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    If God really was real, do you think he would want people to follow him blindly? That would be quite moronic. He’d have a load of idiots in his holy domain.

    The way I see it, if he is real, you are the ones going to hell while us non-believers will be going to Heaven as we proved we are capable of critical thinking and open mindedness.

    But.. he isn’t real. So there is no test.

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    [ATTACH=CONFIG]84207[/ATTACH]

    #1270637
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    MR207
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    SOMEONE WATCH MY VIDEO FOR GOD’S SAKE… literally(he’s watching)

    Trying to explain Christianity to people is like trying to float on thin air… impossible

    Whoever doesn’t agree that this story a miracle needs serious help

    This is my proof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6klClwZVHfE

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    @mr207 538178 wrote:

    SOMEONE WATCH MY VIDEO FOR GOD’S SAKE… literally(he’s watching)

    Trying to explain Christianity to people is like trying to float on thin air… impossible

    Whoever doesn’t agree that this story a miracle needs serious help

    This is my proof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6klClwZVHfE

    is it 15 mins of pro-christian propaganda?

    and does it by chance confuse “miracle” with “unlikely”

    #1270252
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    thelog
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    @DeezNuts 538174 wrote:

    If God really was real, do you think he would want people to follow him blindly? That would be quite moronic. He’d have a load of idiots in his holy domain.

    The way I see it, if he is real, you are the ones going to hell while us non-believers will be going to Heaven as we proved we are capable of critical thinking and open mindedness.

    But.. he isn’t real. So there is no test.

    I’m saved!!

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    @mr207 538178 wrote:

    SOMEONE WATCH MY VIDEO FOR GOD’S SAKE… literally(he’s watching)

    Trying to explain Christianity to people is like trying to float on thin air… impossible

    Whoever doesn’t agree that this story a miracle needs serious help

    This is my proof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6klClwZVHfE

    I watched some of it. I think you need to research the definition of proof.

    #1270719
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    Deez
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    @mr207 538178 wrote:

    SOMEONE WATCH MY VIDEO FOR GOD’S SAKE… literally(he’s watching)

    Trying to explain Christianity to people is like trying to float on thin air… impossible

    Whoever doesn’t agree that this story a miracle needs serious help

    This is my proof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6klClwZVHfE

    It’s the same explaining our views to you.

    We can see through the bullshit brainwashing that you’ve been put through, but you can’t, it’s sad and I feel sorry for you.

    BTW God is physically impossible according to science and physics to be honest, but science is… real and proven

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    @DeezNuts 538183 wrote:

    BTW God is physically impossible according to science and physics to be honest, but science is… real and proven

    People of scientific mind can believe and do believe in god the two are not mutally exclusive.

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    Deez
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    @photographthesun 538184 wrote:

    People of scientific mind can believe and do believe in god the two are not mutally exclusive.

    How can you believe in Evolution and Creationism?

    How can you believe the Earth is 6,000 years old and billions of years old?

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    @DeezNuts 538185 wrote:

    How can you believe in Evolution and Creationism?

    How can you believe the Earth is 6,000 years old and billions of years old?

    I didn’t say that thought did I…I said god. Not a literal interpretation of the Bible.

    #1270721
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    Deez
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    @photographthesun 538187 wrote:

    I didn’t say that thought did I…I said god. Not a literal interpretation of the Bible.

    Hmm I suppose so, but God pretty much denies the laws of physics…

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    @DeezNuts 538193 wrote:

    Hmm I suppose so, but God pretty much denies the laws of physics…

    so does Quantum mechanics seemingly.

    Just to make it clear I see no reason to believe in a God/god and it is not up to people to disprove it rather the reverse. It can’t be disproved I haven’t developed a form of alchemy using tomato juice and a car battery (the gold it produces is invisible but weighs twice as much) but I wouldn’t expect people to disprove it rather the burden of proof would be on me.

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    MC G-Tek
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    @mr207 538151 wrote:

    This, and for whoever else wishes to hear a miracle:

    “Last month, my diabetic grandmother had a stroke. She went to the hospital and they ran many tests to determine her condition. Miraculously, it was a minor stroke but an MRI still had to be done to see if she had any clotting in her arteries. Part of this procedure required that a tiny tube be threaded through her arteries.
    My grandmother was afraid to have them run this tube all the way up to her brain. The night before the procedure, we all prayed for her. She opened the Bible and said that God spoke to her in Psalm 63, which talks about thirsting for God and praising him joyfully. That night, God also spoke to me in prayer bringing me peace and assuring me that my grandmother was going to be okay.
    After the MRI was done, the doctor came to me and my family and was very confused. The doctor said that he did not find any clotting of the arteries in her brain and wasn’t sure what had caused her stroke. He thought maybe it was a medication that she stopped taking.
    Today, my grandmother is gaining her strength back with therapy and her blood-sugar is being controlled. What a wonderful God we serve!”

    @mr207 538152 wrote:

    AND THIS

    “I tried to call my mother and father for what I thought might be the last time on August 7, 2010. Unexpectedly, I became the victim of a violent attack at my girlfriend’s home. An ex-boyfriend had broken into her home while we were away shopping and was armed with a 9mm handgun. As the two of them scuffled, I managed to make my way to the front door. Inside the house, 5 shots were fired at me from approximately 10ft away by this military vet and only my left leg was grazed. Once outside, I jumped over a porch railing and landed about 10ft below in the yard. I darted across the road toward her parent’s house, which was nearly 75-100 yards away.

    The shooter had moved outside as well and fired at me 8 more times. I was hit 3 times while on the run but did not go down. The most critical shot went through my back and out my chest, merely inches from my heart and spine. I truly believe that God’s angels had to guide these bullets during this attack.

    I calmed down as I made my way into her parents home. There was a serene peace that overcame me as I waited 45 minutes on an ambulance. After a bumpy ride, I still felt this peace as I laid in the medic-chopper and took a 30 minute flight to the hospital. I remained conscious this entire time but only due to God’s strength. God helped my to keep breathing even though my left lung had collapsed. As I was laid on the operating table in the trauma unit, my body suddenly felt more pain than I could begin to describe. I had lost nearly all of my blood and was bleeding internally.

    I awoke the next day, Sunday, in ICU. From that point on, I consider my recovery miraculous. I was released from the hospital after only 10 nights. I walked out with no assistance and my mother and father walking next to me. 1 month later, I was able to walk a mile at our high school track as well as return to the location of the shooting.

    On Oct.4th, less than 2 months later, God gave me the ability to go back to work. He also protected my girlfriend during this attack. She was shot at twice and only hit once in the leg that went through and out. Life has pretty much returned to normal for both of us in a relatively short time. I just felt the need to share my testimony and my miracle with others. Thank you”

    I don’t see what you’re getting at here mate, there’s nothing miraculous about either of these stories. There’s an element of luck in the 2nd one, but that doesn’t make it a miracle in my mind – if the last 10 years have taught us anything, it’s that soldiers are pretty piss-poor shots a lot of the time!

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    Deez
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    @MC G-Tek 538198 wrote:

    I don’t see what you’re getting at here mate, there’s nothing miraculous about either of these stories. There’s an element of luck in the 2nd one, but that doesn’t make it a miracle in my mind – if the last 10 years have taught us anything, it’s that soldiers are pretty piss-poor shots a lot of the time!

    Yup – its just luck. If you win the lottery it isn’t a miracle it’s luck. You are just using the words miracle and luck interchangably MR207.

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    MC G-Tek
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    @DeezNuts 538199 wrote:

    Yup – its just luck. If you win the lottery it isn’t a miracle it’s luck. You are just using the words miracle and luck interchangably MR207.

    Yep, it’s like in the Real – Galatasaray game the other night, one of the Real players (Benzema or Coentrao I think) committed exactly the same foul as Nani did in the 2nd leg of Utd – Real and didn’t even get booked. Was that a miracle? No. It was lucky that they had a ref who interpreted the rules a little more sensibly, but it certainly wasn’t miraculous.

    #1270582
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    The Psyentist
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    @mr207 538151 wrote:

    This, and for whoever else wishes to hear a miracle:

    “Last month, my diabetic grandmother had a stroke. She went to the hospital and they ran many tests to determine her condition. Miraculously, it was a minor stroke but an MRI still had to be done to see if she had any clotting in her arteries. Part of this procedure required that a tiny tube be threaded through her arteries.
    My grandmother was afraid to have them run this tube all the way up to her brain. The night before the procedure, we all prayed for her. She opened the Bible and said that God spoke to her in Psalm 63, which talks about thirsting for God and praising him joyfully. That night, God also spoke to me in prayer bringing me peace and assuring me that my grandmother was going to be okay.
    After the MRI was done, the doctor came to me and my family and was very confused. The doctor said that he did not find any clotting of the arteries in her brain and wasn’t sure what had caused her stroke. He thought maybe it was a medication that she stopped taking.
    Today, my grandmother is gaining her strength back with therapy and her blood-sugar is being controlled. What a wonderful God we serve!”

    That’s no miracle. If anything it is quite the reverse. That’s a story about an old lady having a stroke for seemingly no reason. Desperation is the only reason I can think that you’d actually consider a potentially life threatening affliction a miracle.

    #1270638
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    MR207
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    @The Psyentist 538210 wrote:

    That’s no miracle. If anything it is quite the reverse. That’s a story about an old lady having a stroke for seemingly no reason. Desperation is the only reason I can think that you’d actually consider a potentially life threatening affliction a miracle.

    Oh really?? She lived didn’t she? And when people feel a force pick them up and feel hands on them, what do you think that is? Do you think they’re crazy and need to be locked up?

    #1270583
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    The Psyentist
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    @mr207 538152 wrote:

    AND THIS

    “I tried to call my mother and father for what I thought might be the last time on August 7, 2010. Unexpectedly, I became the victim of a violent attack at my girlfriend’s home. An ex-boyfriend had broken into her home while we were away shopping and was armed with a 9mm handgun. As the two of them scuffled, I managed to make my way to the front door. Inside the house, 5 shots were fired at me from approximately 10ft away by this military vet and only my left leg was grazed. Once outside, I jumped over a porch railing and landed about 10ft below in the yard. I darted across the road toward her parent’s house, which was nearly 75-100 yards away.

    The shooter had moved outside as well and fired at me 8 more times. I was hit 3 times while on the run but did not go down. The most critical shot went through my back and out my chest, merely inches from my heart and spine. I truly believe that God’s angels had to guide these bullets during this attack.

    I calmed down as I made my way into her parents home. There was a serene peace that overcame me as I waited 45 minutes on an ambulance. After a bumpy ride, I still felt this peace as I laid in the medic-chopper and took a 30 minute flight to the hospital. I remained conscious this entire time but only due to God’s strength. God helped my to keep breathing even though my left lung had collapsed. As I was laid on the operating table in the trauma unit, my body suddenly felt more pain than I could begin to describe. I had lost nearly all of my blood and was bleeding internally.

    I awoke the next day, Sunday, in ICU. From that point on, I consider my recovery miraculous. I was released from the hospital after only 10 nights. I walked out with no assistance and my mother and father walking next to me. 1 month later, I was able to walk a mile at our high school track as well as return to the location of the shooting.

    On Oct.4th, less than 2 months later, God gave me the ability to go back to work. He also protected my girlfriend during this attack. She was shot at twice and only hit once in the leg that went through and out. Life has pretty much returned to normal for both of us in a relatively short time. I just felt the need to share my testimony and my miracle with others. Thank you”

    I shouldn’t even need to explain why there is no miracle here.

    #1270639
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    MR207
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    @DeezNuts 538199 wrote:

    Yup – its just luck. If you win the lottery it isn’t a miracle it’s luck. You are just using the words miracle and luck interchangably MR207.

    Mhmm. You call a complete and sudden disappearence of cancer fucking luck. There is seriously something wrong with that. Winning the lottery and having cancer, then suddenly not having it are two COMPLETELY different situations, I don’t even know how you can compare the two.

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