June 22, 2011 at 5:15 pm #1241236
@Kung Fu Fader 440999 wrote:
People arn’t allways dickheads … some change some go through phazes etc. The’re are friends I used to have that I now don’t speak to cos they started doing shit like this alot. But on the other hand if you’ve known someone for a long time .. and they start doing shit like this … it’s no so easy as to just not be friends with them (like you would if that was the first time you met the guy) as they are a part of your life allready.
This happened to me. I basically had to drop the guy as a friend as he was too much of a liability, particularly as he started being violent/controlling towards women and that was the last straw. This was someone I had been friends with for over a decade and had known since leaving uni, we had raved together right from the old skool days. It was a hard thing to do but had to be done.June 22, 2011 at 5:16 pm #1241280
Fair enough GL, I spent, well to be honest up until a couple of months before I joined up here scrapping all the time, and never had any ramifications despite having a record, but I suppose it depends on how old you are, where you are and who you work for. The golf club I was working at was actually a pretty posh place, and it was only me out of all the staff or customers who got into trouble, so I don’t think the police would have been that bothered. Interesting to hear that people tend to respect the law more than people with a reputation around you, where I am (<25 miles around me) it tends to be that people have a lot more respect, in terms of not breaking their rules, for the local hardmen.June 22, 2011 at 5:20 pm #1241242GiantMidgetParticipant
@hat 441126 wrote:
i wish people would just not fight, it’s so mean.
Damn, I had such a good video of two midgets fighting that I wanted to post up for you but it’s not working so this will have to do.June 22, 2011 at 5:25 pm #1241237
@Moonie 441130 wrote:
Interesting to hear that people tend to respect the law more than people with a reputation around you, where I am (<25 miles around me) it tends to be that people have a lot more respect, in terms of not breaking their rules, for the local hardmen.
It wasn’t always like that and even this respect is a bit begruding.
However what has happened particularly since 2006 is that the feds and the local media have managed to successfully expose the stereotypical hard man type as a bully who is often violent and controlling towards women – by honest reporting over a number of particularly nasty domestic violence cases, as well as that of the infamous murders of a number of prostitutes in this area by a lorry driver and former pub landlord. To add to this, there has been a lot of conflict between London gangsters and locals here over drugs, which has pissed off the locals (many of whom are former Londoners) – as I mentioned earlier people come to places like Ipswich to get away from that.
It does seem to have shocked people to their senses. At the same time there is also a large contingent of lone mothers with young kids on some parts of my estate and as they lack physical power but at the same time refuse to be bullied and controlled, many of them are much more willing to co-operate with the conventional authorities than ever before.June 22, 2011 at 6:02 pm #1241271p0lyParticipant
oh i found out that what gaza was talking about was that he saw this guy fight the asians earlier.June 22, 2011 at 6:02 pm #1241281
Souns like your proximity to London has a lot to do with it, all the hardest blokes from around here seem to either be London, Scotland or Pikey, but because the general society doesn’t see the shit caused by these people because there are less of them (nearest city being oxford which couldn’t collectively fight out of a paper bag), I think they just getr respect through fear and inexperience.June 22, 2011 at 6:35 pm #1241238
@Moonie 441136 wrote:
Souns like your proximity to London has a lot to do with it, all the hardest blokes from around here seem to either be London, Scotland or Pikey, but because the general society doesn’t see the shit caused by these people because there are less of them (nearest city being oxford which couldn’t collectively fight out of a paper bag), I think they just getr respect through fear and inexperience.
Yep. I think it makes a lot of difference. We’ve also lost two nightlife venues and about 50 jobs directly through the actions of jumped up wannabe London gangsters, others through locals acting like muppets, there is also a big backlash against people what can’t control their habits (be they drugs or alcohol) acting like idiots and the majority of otherwise decent people are fed up with this. its not perfect here but by and large I find this place to be nicer to live and work in than Reading and London where I used to live before..June 22, 2011 at 11:20 pm #1241282
It sounds like the alternative society (fuck me that sounds wanky) around you is pretty fucked up, from how I see it by people taking advantage and bringing serious crime to parties, and the police coming down very hard on the same scene. Around here it’s the total opposite, very rich tory country where nobody knows what the word rave means.June 23, 2011 at 11:32 am #1241239
@Moonie 441181 wrote:
Around here it’s the total opposite, very rich tory country where nobody knows what the word rave means.
there used to be loads of raves in Oxfordshire (I lived not too far away) but similar things happened and TVP clamped down on the scene.June 23, 2011 at 5:14 pm #1241284
Ahh, shame I wasn’t born a decade earlier 🙁June 23, 2011 at 10:39 pm #1241255Pike Tom UsParticipant
@p0ly 440963 wrote:
My mate got in a fight with some Asians in the park either which none of us saw, apparently it was over a ‘what you lookin at bruv’ situation.
So 30-40 mins later me and the same guy who got in a fight are walking to the chip shop, there’s 10 chavs standing there looking at us… so my mate says ‘WHAT THE FUCK YOU LOOKIN AT BRUV?’ 1-2 of them shout back so he goes up to the loudest one and punches him in the face, the guy looked pretty boyed off but obviously after 10 seconds his 9 mates are behind him coming for my mate so he runs off, they steal his 100 pound shoes. I know he went back to try and get them but personally after i got my food i went home safely.
i think people getting their shoes nicked is hilarious! glad u went home safely tho mateJune 23, 2011 at 10:45 pm #1241256Pike Tom UsParticipant
@Moonie 441181 wrote:
It sounds like the alternative society (fuck me that sounds wanky) around you is pretty fucked up, from how I see it by people taking advantage and bringing serious crime to parties, and the police coming down very hard on the same scene. Around here it’s the total opposite, very rich tory country where nobody knows what the word rave means.
how old are you mate? my ex is 22 and was going to free parties in oxford since he was about 13. rugged soundsystem was out every weekend untill everyone got major k habits an were in an out the hospital having their bladders rebuilt- only to go an do the same thing all over againJune 23, 2011 at 11:45 pm #1241293FrenchTeknoParticipant
I think it strange that you are at all considering fights normal. This is what is plaguing humanity. fights/war its all the same to me. Let theses idiots be what they are : idiots. And don’t tell me that one has to stand for one’s self, that i will. but fighting is the most pointless thing that never has brought one inch of constructiveness. I remember for example i was coming back late from work and i was listening to some tekno nice and loud. Now if someone tells me to turn it down i will, but in this case we were just about to get off the train. And the idiot asks me to turn it down as i am about to get off. Now i have to admit i was in a bad mood and drunk and told him whats the point of turning the sound down as i’m getting off. But the guy decides to argue with me and then starts saying how he is going to do me.. and I just retort to him : is fighting going to change anything..he just stared at me blankly and walked away.June 24, 2011 at 12:00 am #1241285
Hey man, football never changed anything either, doesn’t mean it’s not a good laugh. Most of the fights I’ve got into, whatever the stated reason for them, were mainly because me and the other guy both wanted to have a fight. I’m not going to sit and argue the toss about whether that’s healthy or not, but I have never got in a fight with someone who wasn’t looking for one.June 24, 2011 at 12:39 am #1241294FrenchTeknoParticipant
fair’s fair, but what i can’t see is where the laugh is in fighting. It’s a bit contradictory, no?June 24, 2011 at 7:32 am #1241286
I don’t think so, it’s early and I have work but I’ll probably explain myself later.June 24, 2011 at 9:59 am #1241273MingheadParticipant
thers still fuck loads around oxfordshire it used to be avin it! but i still hear of lil things, actually the last time we were there was about 2 years ago!
where does the time go?June 24, 2011 at 10:12 am #1241240
TVP have stepped up zero tolerance more and they are getting the upper hand now – today its a lot of well trained cops with local knowledge and some much more sophisticated surveillance equipment put up against younger, sketchier k-heads who always use the same areas around the Ridgeway, Lewknor and Christmas Common etc which have all been rinsed for about 10 years. The peak of raves in that area was in about 2004/2005 and since then they are never going to tolerate it getting like that again.
Also like most other constabularies in England and Wales they got Airwave radios in 2005 which made a big difference to their comms capabilities in rural areas.
And because of the wider impact of ketamine use and drug dealing funding some crews there are now specialist teams which deal with serious/organised crime investigating the rave scene – whereas a few years ago it was just the SNT (safer neighbourhood team) viewing it as minor seasonal anti-social behaviour.
Although even in the 90s/2000s they had files on everyone involved they realised they were mostly middle class young people with day jobs who just did it for weekend fun and weren’t big time dealers.June 24, 2011 at 6:35 pm #1241288manamanParticipant
@Dom_sufc 440991 wrote:
For not sticking by his “mate”. I’d never leave someone who I deemed a mate to go off and get a kicking alone. Fair enough if he wasn’t a mate, then who gives a fuck. But a mate is a mate. I suppose it depends on how you define a friend/mate/best mate, etc.
True, also you were lucky they new you or you would have taken a kicking anyway. You new what he’s like yet got yourself into that situation which was silly, but at least you didnt get stuck in, get put in A&E and your non-mate go home with the takeaway, which is how it often go’sFilter your mates before you lose your chipsJune 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm #1241277FizzbombheidParticipant
fighting is good for the soul man.
it’s stupid and silly but by jove it gets your heart pumping.July 7, 2011 at 11:46 am #1241272p0lyParticipant
some guys took the piss out of the guys hair who started the fight i spoke about in the first place, he said ‘what the fuck did you say’ 3 grown men thinking they can take the piss from a far. when he fronted them up told them to come up and say it to his face they all sat there scared!!!
even though the guy is stupid he does have a good point, if people are gonna take the piss from a far in groups and think they’re bad boys (men) they should be challenged to see who’s actually a pussy.July 7, 2011 at 8:13 pm #1241287
Give people a real chance to do what they’re talking about and 19/20 times they will fuck off back under their rock.
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