March 31, 2012 at 2:55 pm #1052761
There only seems a couple of us on here regularly…….
where have they all gone?? :hopeless: :hopeless:
– there used to be loads more, we even had a group….
we need more girls on here to keep you lads in line 😉 :weee:March 31, 2012 at 3:05 pm #1252186swedger_alexParticipant
I know!!!! I was the only person to volunteer a chest shot for the National Cleavage Day thread, and tbh, I don’t think Sin was overly impressed.March 31, 2012 at 8:55 pm #1252171
Need to build an enclosure for p0ly. :laugh_at:April 1, 2012 at 12:03 pm #1252161
a fair few I know have become mums recently (no, I am not the father :laugh_at: )
other than pinay spammers there are less girls on the EDM scene these days. I’ve noticed simlar on Partyflock in the Netherlands, those girls who are on there tend to be mostly younger and much more into the fashion side of it, and as such drop back into townie lifestyles as soon as things get heavy with clampdowns. also apart from this particularly well run forum (which having active female mods is a big part of) the entire nightlife scene is no longer friendly/safe for young women without some form of security to nanny the crowds. Consider that there are still two outstanding rape cases from Latitude which is a highly controlled mainstream event!
also stimulant use causes various “womens problems” for many which puts them off after their mid 20s.
I still remember how that last attempt to put a detective into the EA rave scene via farcebook fell flat because she was already 25/26 and therefore too old!April 1, 2012 at 4:22 pm #1252166
Yeh, I think your defo right GL, along side what you have written, I have noticed quite a resurgence of women being ‘seen / spoken about’ as just bodies (to fuck) or be adorned on a young mans arm, do their washing and pick up after them, far more recently in the younger generation, (esp in male orientated facebook groups specifically made for these sorts of views) and to combat this a real upsugence of feminism and young women fighting against this (IE UK Feminista).
(On a side – I wonder if this is due to the ease of access to porn for youngsters on computers / phones and then the associated sexualisation of women, in comparison of having to either nick your dads / mates or be very confident and buy pornos in a shop. And reported initiation of gang rape to get ‘in to and accepted’ in a gang, and girls often ‘selling’ their mates to other gang members etc – I dunno, but it certainly seems to be a downward negative shift – in my opinion)
but even though we dont seem to be having even the fleeting posts from the girls who stay a few months / yr,
I wonder whether as the weather gets warmer this may change? as we tend to get more traffic anyway, but I defo understand why girls wouldnt stay on certain forums – (Ie, I just dont like the appeared accepted misogyny and general attitude of SJ)April 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm #1252172
I’ve got 26 year old female friends who go out raving a lot. I actually know some 30+ female ravers. Surely it just depends on the group the DC was trying to infiltrate and whether she was the same age as them as opposed to how old she is on it’s own? I mean if she was trying to get into a group of 35 year old ravers she might of been to young right?April 1, 2012 at 4:34 pm #1252167
Most of the party women who I go dancing with are in their 30-40’s and some in their 50’s, alot have their own vans too!! which is great seeing a petite woman driving her 7.5 tonne vehicle!!
but they not on here,
we used to have quite a strong female population on here a few years ago, and its a shame that its missing I think.April 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm #1252173
I guess it’s different with the times …. like ten/twenty years ago it was ok for a girl to be a raver so the mentality has stuck with them as they have grown up a bit. Nowadays it’s not as acceptable so after going for a bit, girls probably shy away from the scene by the time they are a bit older.April 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm #1252181
I think it might be a girls/internet thing really. The internet can be a bit annoying for women (I always keep thinking back to the awe you can observe if someone on xbox live is revealed to be a girl) so they might just not bother.April 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm #1252168
@barrettone 474945 wrote:
I think it might be a girls/internet thing really. The internet can be a bit annoying for women (I always keep thinking back to the awe you can observe if someone on xbox live is revealed to be a girl) so they might just not bother.
I understand the xbox thing defo!! my other half has to near enough nag me to play it!!
but we have had a solid population of girls here in the past, and I’ve noticed over the last good few months they have all left / stopped postingApril 1, 2012 at 5:32 pm #1252182
I think the hardcore misogyny on the internet has only flared up recently though, what with all the kitchen jokes and what have you. I reckon that people getting older (and investing more of their time in other things than the internet) coupled with the how unappealing the internet must be for the younger generation of girls would contribute.
Or maybe I’m just talking crap and it’s just a coincidence. Though I do reckon that no matter what the statistics, the internet has always been slightly male dominated, due to its nature.April 1, 2012 at 11:32 pm #1252175p0lyParticipant
did i scare them off? 😀April 2, 2012 at 7:16 am #1252179MoonieParticipant
I’m not sure why there are less women on here, but I’m not so sure the thing about women not being at so many raves and stuff is true all over the place, it’s about 50/50 at most of the parties I go toApril 2, 2012 at 11:46 am #1252162
@DaftFader 474940 wrote:
I’ve got 26 year old female friends who go out raving a lot. I actually know some 30+ female ravers. Surely it just depends on the group the DC was trying to infiltrate and whether she was the same age as them as opposed to how old she is on it’s own? I mean if she was trying to get into a group of 35 year old ravers she might of been to young right?
It was Suffolk. for monitoring drug users over their mid 20a they use the Major Crime Investigation teams and the NHS mental health professionals, not rookie detectives. In multicultural coastal areas they don’t do stuff by halves.
Although this place is by no means “backward” compared to London or SE England people are stubborn and opinionated and there has been a major backlash against the night time economy as a whole (including townie places) since the 2006 murders and also previous incidents associated with the rave scene. Even many hippy friends from the local cycling groups find me discussing what I got up to in the 1990s uncomfortable and a lot of my friends (many of whom are female) are really anti drugs because of what they saw close friends go through (they are not right wing daily mail readers by any means).
Anyone still partying at my age (irrespective of gender) is now viewed with suspicion not just by cops but the whole of society! whilst its not quite the same in other Northern European nations the attitudes there seem to be changing. Other than townie clubs in low income high crime areas (which are only tolerated as the other crimes mask the impact) Many of the dance music genres we prefer on here are viewed as a throwback from the affluent optimistic 1990s, times which are now gone for good and no amount of drugs (which to be fair are more plentiful than ever before) will bring them back. Newer genres like dubstep and grime aren’t as friendly to girls/women and associated with major security problems at events.
There are loads of girls/women online and on other forums especially stuff to do with crafts. The techie sites in England are still male dominated but on foreign ones there are more girls/women.April 2, 2012 at 12:31 pm #1252180pablofitzygParticipant
I’ve got long hair, so don’t mind taking one for the team (not literally ya dirty buggers)April 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm #1252177Lt LunaParticipant
There are less women in our group these days 🙁 They either had kids or just don’t go out anymore. Most have also split from their partners. Out of a huge crowd there are only 2 girls in the group now 🙁 But I don’t really tend to go out too much these days. I don’t like feeling the oldest rocker in town….April 2, 2012 at 1:46 pm #1252185know_hopeParticipant
@Lt Luna 475046 wrote:
I don’t like feeling the oldest rocker in town….
there u go i made my msg a bit longer u interfering little box uApril 2, 2012 at 1:48 pm #1252184
I always feel like one of the youngest!April 2, 2012 at 2:21 pm #1252163
@Lt Luna 475046 wrote:
There are less women in our group these days 🙁 They either had kids or just don’t go out anymore. Most have also split from their partners.
Thats another factor which also affects blokes my age as well – I’ve met a lot of girls/women who have had a bad experience with a partner what uses drugs and likes music (including controlling/violent behaviour, or even just sketchy things like not prioritising stuff like paying rent etc over partying)
They not surprisingly now view men who are into this scene suspiciously (also a lot of women here move from London/Essex to escape bad relationships) – as well as nightlife. seen this across the board from teenagers to women in their 50s.
Also unfortunately lone women (aged anywhere from 18-60!) in most night time venues are seen as “fair game” – a woman in her 50s here who went out clubbing ended up being raped by a 18 year old lad young enough to be her son. In my town I have seen up to 8 police simply nannying the crowd (along with bouncers) at a popular nightclub. although there wasn’t any overt trouble that crowd did not look friendly and I got the impression that had the cops not been there something would have kicked off.
there is a entire police unit simply to deal with the behaviour of people at pubs and clubs which is relatively new for this region (though metpol have had one for decades). I can’t blame people for not going out in some towns/cities – although London (where I lived for many years) has many good events (like most big cities) there are still security risks.
A lot of older blokes don’t go out any more because of these risks, even if you can look after yourself defending yourself can result in arrest and career problems and there are folk out there who will hurt of kill someone simply because they are feeling shit about life (it happened here even 100s of years ago when there was death penalty). to be fair whilst its no worse than 25 years ago before the rave scene and the last economic depression and Tory Government it seems understandable that when you either grow older and/or have something you want to live for (like a career or family) you take less risks.September 9, 2012 at 8:13 pm #1252169
bumpSeptember 9, 2012 at 8:16 pm #1252176p0lyParticipant
come on ladies come on ladies, 1 pound p0ly, 1 pound p0ly!!September 9, 2012 at 11:24 pm #1252174
@p0ly 494711 wrote:
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Ahhh I wondered where that fish smell was coming from.September 10, 2012 at 9:45 am #1252187Pat McDonaldParticipantQuote:Where have all the PV girls gone??
Dunno. Usually they’ve sloped off to the little girls room to talk about lippy and boys…September 10, 2012 at 11:34 am #1252189IzbeckistanParticipant
*looks down* yep I’m definitely a girl….Boys don’t have these.September 10, 2012 at 11:48 am #1252164
This forum traditionally attracts more intelligent, independent girls/young women, of which a large contingent of them go up to University and stop anything frivolous so they could pass their degree courses, and would have become aware of pre-employment screening. Some return post graduation and careers, but until they have a secure career and aren’t being watched and judged they can’t really post here freely. Thats the flipside of “free speech for all via farcebook and the “shameless” culture in this country”.
This is happening with the boys as well and is actually pushing the age profile of our users upwards… I’ve noticed we don’t get as much of the new college / uni intake as before, but with fees through the roof I can understand why no one takes the risk..
Also as mentioned earlier the net is becoming a hostile place for many young people (girls especially but increasingly for boys too) so after a few bad experiences online its not surprising many no longer think there is anything good to be found other than maybe downloads of free stuff (I’ve known personal friends who have been on here for years, downloaded gigs of MP3 but not posted a thing.
So most of the current girls / women on here are older, perhaps now mums as well as in professional careers and feel more secure in society as to be fair everywhere in the world realises that mums and children are after all essential to the continued survival of the human race, and extra features like the radio are an attraction to parents who can relive a bit of their youth even if its only a few hours of background music.
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