Forums The Vibe Chat Theres an election this year guys. now hear me out

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    jessifleur
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      Hello,
      I am actually jessifleurs brother for a start. i forgot my login, and my gmail account when i was unplugged for a bit.

      So long as our dear leader comrade brown does not decide that he can continue as he started and not bother to ask the people, we will have an election in the U.K this year.

      For a long time the 3 main parties have mearly worked on image, trying to impress a conservative and reactionary media. The Leaders of these parties are shallow, and hold only their own best interests at heart.

      What if the country was offered a third way, composed of common sense, right thinking policies that would benifit the nation, the economy and the individual?

      I’d like to sound out a few boards and forums with the idea of organising a grassroots movement to get the youth, primarily, but also all the people who maybe aren’t that fussed,but do care and do want a better society, to get together to stand behind local independant candidates who will represent the ideas i outlined above, of common sense and decency, and hopefully get at least a few voices heard.

      Anyone In?

      #1221958
      1984
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        @jessifleur 367782 wrote:

        Hello,
        I am actually jessifleurs brother for a start. i forgot my login, and my gmail account when i was unplugged for a bit.

        So long as our dear leader comrade brown does not decide that he can continue as he started and not bother to ask the people, we will have an election in the U.K this year.

        For a long time the 3 main parties have mearly worked on image, trying to impress a conservative and reactionary media. The Leaders of these parties are shallow, and hold only their own best interests at heart.

        What if the country was offered a third way, composed of common sense, right thinking policies that would benifit the nation, the economy and the individual?

        I’d like to sound out a few boards and forums with the idea of organising a grassroots movement to get the youth, primarily, but also all the people who maybe aren’t that fussed,but do care and do want a better society, to get together to stand behind local independant candidates who will represent the ideas i outlined above, of common sense and decency, and hopefully get at least a few voices heard.

        Anyone In?

        sounds vague and like you are a uni student.

        #1221938
        GiantMidget
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          My votes going to Islam4UK.

          #1221927
          elretardo87
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            My vote is going for no one.

            Unfortunately the system for the UK government is rigged to stop independents really having a say.

            It is a two horse race followed by the crippled pony of the Lib Dems, so your best bet for change is unfortunately not going to come through any political channels.

            #1221952
            p0ly
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              vote cliffy?

              #1221930
              MisterDuck
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                i’m probably going to vote labour

                not that i advocate or support what the new labour party has become, and i believe in change through other means. but in terms of who the X will go to, it’ll be labour because i believe that now blair has gone, they are better than the tories and will secure our education, nhs and public sector better

                #1221950
                DaftFader
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                  i’m with el on this one imo it doesn’t matter who you vote for as the system is bullshit and no matter who you vote for u’ll only get one of two partys in power – and tbh even if another party did get in they would most likely be as shit as the rest of them – i refuse to vote for someone i don’t want to be in govenment and seens as it doesn’t matter who i vote for anyway i won’t be voting as useuall

                  #1221917
                  General Lighting
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                    even in countries where they have fairer systems, as soon as the economy faltered the intelligent, educated electorate of well run nations such as NL and DK voted for the extreme right by their own free will.

                    #1221939
                    GiantMidget
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                      @p0ly 367838 wrote:

                      vote cliffy?

                      Nah I’m not running this year. Besides if i got in power it would be an absolute utopia for me but to everyone else a dictatorship raaaraaa

                      #1221931
                      MisterDuck
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                        @DaftFader 367842 wrote:

                        i’m with el on this one imo it doesn’t matter who you vote for as the system is bullshit and no matter who you vote for u’ll only get one of two partys in power – and tbh even if another party did get in they would most likely be as shit as the rest of them – i refuse to vote for someone i don’t want to be in govenment and seens as it doesn’t matter who i vote for anyway i won’t be voting as useuall

                        Not knocking you mate most of my mates probably won’t vote – all I’ll say is in the European elections, it was people not voting that resulted in two BNP seats. It wasn’t an increase in votes for the BNP.

                        It depends on your local area of course. If your local area is in no danger of getting a BNP MP, then it doesn’t really matter. If it is in danger, turn out and vote for whoever just to take a vote away from them.

                        #1221951
                        DaftFader
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                          @MisterDuck 367878 wrote:

                          Not knocking you mate most of my mates probably won’t vote – all I’ll say is in the European elections, it was people not voting that resulted in two BNP seats. It wasn’t an increase in votes for the BNP.

                          It depends on your local area of course. If your local area is in no danger of getting a BNP MP, then it doesn’t really matter. If it is in danger, turn out and vote for whoever just to take a vote away from them.

                          I understand what you are saing but i am not gonna get bullyed into voting for some one i don’t want bassed on the threat that some one else might get in power that i also don’t want. I never voted for labor or conservatives or any one in the first place so it’s not even like they are loosing my vote alowing the bnp to have more of a %. Frankly i’m not interested in playing these people stupid games and will remove my self totaly from it even if it means moving out the contry when they make it punishable to not vote (assuming they are that power crazy and end up doing something stupid like this)

                          #1221956
                          TheLostOne
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                            BNP all the way, sorry Islam4uk. Thanks to the people who hacked there website and sent out all the details of this man, I hope to make your life a fucking misery.

                            #1221932
                            MisterDuck
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                              @TheLostOne 367883 wrote:

                              BNP all the way, sorry Islam4uk. Thanks to the people who hacked there website and sent out all the details of this man, I hope to make your life a fucking misery.

                              You haven’t listened to one thing I’ve said have you? Islam4UK would love for you to vote BNP. It all adds to the aggravation.

                              If you actually vote or intend to vote BNP I have no time for you, sorry.

                              #1221940
                              GiantMidget
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                                Tories for me. 🙂

                                #1221957
                                TheLostOne
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                                  @MisterDuck 367893 wrote:

                                  You haven’t listened to one thing I’ve said have you? Islam4UK would love for you to vote BNP. It all adds to the aggravation.

                                  If you actually vote or intend to vote BNP I have no time for you, sorry.

                                  I was Joking about, why the fuck would you think I would vote for the BNP? Jesus Christ I feel insulted.

                                  #1221928
                                  elretardo87
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                                    @DJCliffy 367898 wrote:

                                    Tories for me. 🙂

                                    No surprise there.

                                    Cliffy needs someone to tell him what to do.

                                    #1221929
                                    elretardo87
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                                      @TheLostOne 367900 wrote:

                                      I was Joking about, why the fuck would you think I would vote for the BNP? Jesus Christ I feel insulted.

                                      Don’t deny it….I saw you gettin ready for the rally last month.

                                      bnp-hairBIG.jpg

                                      #1221941
                                      GiantMidget
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                                        @elretardo87 367906 wrote:

                                        No surprise there.

                                        Cliffy needs someone to tell him what to do.

                                        Is that meant to be an insult? I was actually joking. I’m voting for the BRA.

                                        #1221942
                                        GiantMidget
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                                          @elretardo87 367907 wrote:

                                          Don’t deny it….I saw you gettin ready for the rally last month.

                                          bnp-hairBIG.jpg

                                          Fucking hell look at the state at that. At least we know who ate the pies now eh!

                                          #1221959
                                          1984
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                                            @DJCliffy 367910 wrote:

                                            Fucking hell look at the state at that. At least we know who ate the pies now eh!

                                            oi, whats wrong with pie eating!

                                            #1221943
                                            GiantMidget
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                                              @1984 367912 wrote:

                                              oi, whats wrong with pie eating!

                                              Nothing really but it becomes a bit of a problem after the fifth pie imo.

                                              #1221960
                                              1984
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                                                @DJCliffy 367913 wrote:

                                                Nothing really but it becomes a bit of a problem after the fifth pie imo.

                                                I read that as filth pie.

                                                mmm filth pie

                                                #1221918
                                                General Lighting
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                                                  @MisterDuck 367878 wrote:

                                                  Not knocking you mate most of my mates probably won’t vote – all I’ll say is in the European elections, it was people not voting that resulted in two BNP seats. It wasn’t an increase in votes for the BNP.

                                                  Whilst this may be true in some parts of the UK, across the North Sea there are many nations where they either have full proportional representation and in some cases compulsory voting and people have openly and willingly voted for the extreme right.

                                                  These are the same nations once lauded for being cornerstones of social democracy. the shift to the right isn’t just to do with Islam (there is tension against Eastern European immigrants, and even people from the UK coming over as drugs and sex tourists) but it coincided with the recession.

                                                  As someone who doesn’t have white skin, who grew up in the 1970s/80s and has seen a lot of things from the frontline I think the situation is a much bleaker. I have basically seen 25 whole years of positive progress go down the pan in about 5 short years, and even though the Islamic terrorist threat has receeded due to the good work of international authorities, the economic tensions worldwide caused by migration and resource depletion still remain.

                                                  Even so I don’t think World War III will escalate into all out atomic conflict (maybe a couple of nukes in middle eastern nations as a worst case), but I think there may be two very turbulent decades, possibly civil disturbances and subsequent major controls on life (night curfews in town etc) and you will be in your 30s or 40s before things start improving again. Not tinfoil helmet “mad max” type scenarioes but I do think stuff we take for granted like widespread drugs, parties and the late night economy will become much rarer (although not totally disappear) and life will involve much more hard work rebuilding communities and simply keeping some form of civil society in this country.

                                                  #1221961
                                                  1984
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                                                    @General Lighting 367919 wrote:

                                                    I think there may be two very turbulent decades, possibly civil disturbances and subsequent major controls on life (night curfews in town etc) and you will be in your 30s or 40s before things start improving again. Not tinfoil helmet “mad max” type scenarioes but I do think stuff we take for granted like widespread drugs, parties and the late night economy will become much rarer (although not totally disappear) and life will involve much more hard work rebuilding communities and simply keeping some form of civil society in this country.

                                                    what makes you think that mate, out of interest? an interesting perspective.

                                                    #1221919
                                                    General Lighting
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                                                      @1984 367921 wrote:

                                                      what makes you think that mate, out of interest? an interesting perspective.

                                                      because I’ve been delving very deeply into this whole Islam/BNP beef from a British perspective, and its causes since the 1990s when it first happened.

                                                      I’m not a big one for conspiracy theories, particularly US inspired ones, but I think this whole “Islam vs the Rest” thing is a big smokescreen. what I am getting at is that a group of angry, feckless youths be they militant Muslims, the BNP or even just pissheads or hedonistic drug users will simply not be permitted to just fuck around in the streets by the “rest of society” particularly when other factors such as resource shortages and environmental damage start making an impact.

                                                      Its hard to describe adequately but normal people particularly Middle Englanders are feeling increasingly powerless and despondent but are just angry at the extremists, yet they feel only miracles and “returns to traditional values” will save the world. And who believes in miracles and traditional values? yes, religious people.

                                                      What I think will happen is that the moderate (but still socially conservative to us) religious group leaders particularly of Abrahamic religions (i.e Christianity, Judaism and Islam) will step in when things are going tits up, and wipe the floor with the hedonists. They already have control of the local businesses and substantial resources in some areas, and are the only ones what also seem to be willingly building communities and putting aside their differences whilst so-called “progressive people bicker.

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