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  • #1050787
    AvatarMoonie
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    I have only ever wanted to buy an old bus, put a bed and a hob in it and live out my life all over the place.

    My question is how do people do it? How do people manage to travel around for years, lifetimes even, without a job or any income other than the dole? I have a decent job and in time will be able to start off, but what about when I want to go off in my van? There’s not alot I want for but food and diesel will be pretty much essential.

    #1238679
    AvatarAnonymous

    Learn to tarmac drives and rob stuff?

    #1238680
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    @Moonie 432301 wrote:

    I have only ever wanted to buy an old bus, put a bed and a hob in it and live out my life all over the place.

    My question is how do people do it? How do people manage to travel around for years, lifetimes even, without a job or any income other than the dole? I have a decent job and in time will be able to start off, but what about when I want to go off in my van? There’s not alot I want for but food and diesel will be pretty much essential.

    many travellers do do various forms of work, and contrary to popular misconception there aren’t that many involved in crime, with todays surveillance those who are get caught, sent to jail and their vehicles pounded and sold by the govt or crushed.

    in fact many rogue traders and metal thieves actually have jack shit to do with the travelling community and live in housing estates surprisingly near their victims – such as the fool who tried to nick a “earth” cable from a substation in my town and found it energised to 33 000V – which was the last thing he did – he was just a normal lad living in a house what misguidedly wanted to buy some toys for his kids birthday and wanted easy money..

    It is no longer an easy life though and fuel costs are rising through the roof. You need a skill/trade which will pay your way and to get trust in the communities you stop in, and you want to go on the road full time you can’t cut corners with stuff like DVLA/VOSA etc as they will catch up with you. if you really want to do it sign up on tribal living (Tribal-Living) and ask the folks on there, there are some very smart people who will give you more in depth advice particularly on vehicles and legit sources of income.

    #1238685
    AvatarMoonie
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    Cheers mate, well before long I’ll be an officially qualified tree surgeon/arboriculturalist, which seems like a pretty legit trade to me, although it does come with that pikey label on it. I’ve already learned lessons about not messing around with tax/mot etc. And you’re right about people nicking scrap, most of the crimes like that which come to notice here I can attribute to one of about 5 blokes who all live locally in houses.

    I signed up to Tribal Living last time I was looking for a van, which ended up going to shit financially, time to log in again and ask some questions I think 🙂

    #1238681
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    as long as you can get trust in your local community you should be able to always get work then. They always need tree surgeons and other outdoor staff where I work as its way out in the sticks – where I am going to later today there is about 100 different types of trees, shrubs etc in the grounds and they put in a load more.

    I guess you realise you are limited to a 3.5T van unless you go for class C license (a few grands and another driving test!) – I’ve no idea how much space all the tools you need takes up but you might be able to fit your tools and living space into it…

    in this area its not at all seen as odd for “proper workmen” to be sleeping in vans, lorries etc, although compared to SE England it is big so everyone understands its not safe to drive 100+ miles and do hard physical work without resting..

    #1238694
    Avatarcaned_monkey
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    I think your major problem these days is finding somewhere to park up. Councils long ago stopped being abliged to provide travellers with somewhere to stay. It’s true, as you say, that most pikey criminals live in houses, but that’s mainly because they’ve been forced to stop living as travellers.

    My personal advise is, if you dont want to piss the local population off, dont leave loads of shit behind when you move on. It seriously rubs people up the wrong way and neither you nor any other traveller will be welcomed back.

    Godd luck to you though, you have the right trade for travelling.

    #1238686
    AvatarMoonie
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    Generally the kind of vans with workmen in around here are just shiny transits without a chimney or anything like that on. I realise my weight limitations, although I’ll have to look into what that actually means size wise. I already have trust in my local community, I was doing odd jobs for years around here cash in hand before taking up tree surgery. Sounding more realistic than I first thought, which is nice, only think I’m worried about it that I’ll have to find someone else, a groundsman to work for me, as nearly everything with tree work is a 2 or 3 man job.

    #1238687
    AvatarMoonie
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    Cheers caned_monkey, and I wouldn’t ever leave a mess anyway, I never do at parties etc. either.

    #1238683
    Avatarsinner69
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    I will recomend you sort out a driving upgrade to your education… there are some eu-courses they have at the job-center that will give you a truck driver license…then you education will be worth more overall…

    #1238688
    AvatarMoonie
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    Can’t do anything on the job centre unless you’ve been signed on more than 6 months, which I haven’t. Bit of a piss-take really, as it would really help me.

    #1238696
    Avatarmanaman
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    @Moonie 432301 wrote:

    I have only ever wanted to buy an old bus, put a bed and a hob in it and live out my life all over the place.

    My question is how do people do it? How do people manage to travel around for years, lifetimes even, without a job or any income other than the dole? I have a decent job and in time will be able to start off, but what about when I want to go off in my van? There’s not alot I want for but food and diesel will be pretty much essential.

    Just go and let the road your on be the choice you made, dont sign on dont ask for help dont bother cursing your luck theres no point just do it for a few months dont bring any money and life will show itself to you

    #1238697
    Avatarmanaman
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    the problem is we always want some kind of security, guaranties that we’ll be alright and you might as well work in factory if thats all your about

    #1238689
    AvatarMoonie
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    Well that’s one way of looking at it, but I know that I would definitely end up just starving to death.

    I would like to be able to just let it go right now, but I have no possible other option should I run out of food

    #1238682
    Avatargloballoon
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    the current situation is a bit funny… i’ve just laid off myself and all my staff but i know that i’ll find work and have found work in the past because i’m willing to work, i’m fit and i have a positive attitude… but for a lot of young people it is hard to find a decent job i spent 9 years on the road (in greece, spain, france, israel, thialand, india, chile etc) before i had kids … if i didn’t have kids to provide for now i’d have no hesitation in getting out there and surviving but education is the one… freedom on the road is easy if you believe in tomorrow

    #1238698
    Avatarmanaman
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    @Moonie 432516 wrote:

    Well that’s one way of looking at it, but I know that I would definitely end up just starving to death.

    I would like to be able to just let it go right now, but I have no possible other option should I run out of food

    Hi, ive done it, and you wont starve you dont have to believe what im saying or have any faith in yourself, you’ll meet people that you need to meet and things will unfold that make it possible, for example workers had cut back a hedgerow and a bike was in there a bit rusty and tyres were flat, didnt put any weight on the weels incase it was just the air had seeped out, it was, went looking for a pump around charity shops found one it had two of those flexi things you attach to the valves got back to the bike it had two different valves front and back the two flexi things i had were what i needed, you’ll find yourself saying ‘how about that’ alot. You’ll make mistakes like stabbing yourself in your hand and burning your tent down with you in it. But your more likely to get killed cycling to work in heavy traffic than you are doing something like this.
    Also resist the urge to pray when things get frightning you’ll only attibute it to what ever you prayed to when strange things unfold, mostly you’ll have a nice time

    #1238690
    AvatarMoonie
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    Well I’m going to have to work for a bit anyway to get myself a van and kit it out etc., but once that’s done I’m pretty keen on just winging it, I’ll have a trade anyway by then, but I’m all up for a bit of skipping and scraping.

    #1238684
    Avatarbarnzy001
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    i just see your post and just a thought not sure if you wanna travel quite so much but i used to do long distance courier work for the national blood service . just an idea but even if you spoke to them what ever part of the country your in there will be somethink to do just cant say if it will be worth your while or not though

    #1238699
    Avatarmanaman
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    I wouldnt do it that extreme again, its just that when you need something it seems to work out that way. I was living in woods and places like that but id come into town every now and then. One time id really messed up lost everything i had, a river burst its banks and washed everything away, had to get out of there waist high in water and pitch dark got into town the next day walking along singing graceland by paul simon in my head, looked up and theres a building site graceland constuction, went in got the start for the following morning, the people i met were really nice, got the sub on friday, i new how to make my own hut worked there for 6 weeks and lived in the new forest it was lovely, basically, which ever way you go about it dont worry to much about how cause things just seem to work out

    #1238691
    AvatarMoonie
    Participant

    Nice one man, I love it when things just come together like that, I get a few things like that hitch-hiking (I do alot of long distances with very poor preperation), you get down and then something comes along and raises your spirits again

    #1238700
    Avatarmungo1972
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    Hi All ,
    Just read this thread , puts your faith back into humanity it does . When your down and in the poo some one will come and help you out or a break will come your way . I think being washed away by a burst river bank and losing all your kit would be bad enough , but for it to all come good 🙂 ….good story almost makes me think anything is possible .

    Although i think like Moonie i wouldn’t want to leave everything to pure chance and would want some sort of a plan to get by .

    regards
    Mungo
    ps Moonie ever though of a horse drawn caravan ….no mot ..no road tax , just an idea

    #1238692
    AvatarMoonie
    Participant

    Yeah awesome story man, proper good vibe.

    Mungo, I have thought seriously about it, but weighing up the budget, buying a horse and caravan etc, plus keeping the horse works out at much more than tax and mot.

    #1238701
    Avatarmungo1972
    Participant

    Hi Moonie ,
    Oh then not such a good idea then , maybe just nick the odd cow out of a feild instead . Then when your done drop that one off and pick up another from a farmers field . This may involve a farmer chasing you with a twelve gauge at some point i reckon !!!! .

    regards
    Mungo

    #1238693
    AvatarMoonie
    Participant

    Hahah I’m a bumpkin mate I’m well used to that! I think I could probably keep the horse fairly cheaply, but I wouldn’t want to neglect it. I don’t mind being skinny and undernourished cause I can’t get a meal, but it’s not fair for the horse to be, because it wasn’t its choice. Also I know fuck all about animals and would probably have a nightmare getting it to do anything haha

    #1238702
    Avatarmungo1972
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    Hi Moonie ,
    I know what you mean , i prefer a engine with wheels as at least a motor vehicle does what you make it do . Now a horse or cow has a mind of its own , and they are big and next to impossible to stop once they decide they are off . A mate of mine she trying to get me to ride a horse …..no chance and any way it have to big bloody horse ….im not a small person you know :-O .

    regards
    Mungo

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