I didn’t know if I was going to do Brizzle or one down in Devon, glad I ended up in Bristol though, it was fat

wasn’t anything round my way, and someone ironically a lot of my newer friends would want to treat the occasion as some kind of serious cosmic ceremony for welcoming the spirit of the new autumn (samhain?) rather than a hedonistic piss up. or they have to look after the kiddies and sort out their party, or are wanting to get up early to work on the farm.

And at my age I’m not chancing it with a bait illegal party where I could get in trouble, and I suspect I’m not the only one. The feds do let you have a few chances from age 18-30, after that they start suspecting you of being a dealer or just setting a bad example to younger people.

TBH age profile of partygoers (at least at unlicensed/underground events) has changed loads, its gone from being virtually a way of life to something people do from age 16-24 and knock on the head when they either become parents or go up to University.

That said I would have been tempted by Bristol as I reckon a few of mates are there but about £70 in train fares and having to leave early so as not get stranded in London isn’t particularly appealing – plus my music tastes have changed and I’m more into progressive/uplifting trance these days than hardstyle or drum and bass…

Devon’s only down the road and on the same train company! (mind you its £70 to London peak time here). TBH if I was in my 20s and had already got used to those prices I’d pay it for the party but it was about £20 if that just a few years ago.

For me you have to go to Liverpool Street then Paddington (which takes ages sometimes) then the Western region. TBH if I lived in Reading still I would have gone (and probably got a lift from someone living locally) but where I live now trains are sketchy and aren’t even always working on Sundays (you get put off the train in some random bit of Essex and have to get on a slow bus).

I’ve recently been discussing with a Councillor about how allowing dance events in my town would make the roads safer and environment better as people wouldn’t drive 200 miles to one somewhere else (and he is on the Transport committee and used to be the main Licensing officer) 😉

actually not dead but in a very bad way

BBC News – Man stabbed during illegal rave at Willington gravel pits

TBH I always go by the rule that no-ones dead until someone with the right training says so – and if anyones hurt or OD’d at a rave and it looks serious you get the ambo in there, and clear the path as quickly as possible (rather than end up with feds doing it) – whats more worrying is folk at raves have assumed that I am some kind of medical professional and seem to think I can fix people rather than computers (this happens at work though sometimes but understandably with confused elderly people). I have helped people whenever possible but FFS if I wanted to be a doctor or paramedic or nurse I would have done so (there’s loads in the family as it is :laugh_at: )

Bedfordshire cops are the only ones what specifically warn of the risk of violence at illegal raves…

This is another reason why I don’t go to local raves any more as I meet many of the local ambulance drivers and other NHS supplies staff at work and they understandably have a low opinion of ravers, who rob their entonox from the depot and then expect to be patched up or looked after when shit goes down at a party.

Places like Liquid pay tens of thousands each year to offset these costs (probably why they are going bust) whilst illegal ravers pay no more than their normal taxes – and the only reason these events were left alone is because they used to be safer than townie shitholes..

@spangle 455711 wrote:

I can’t help but think Bristol wouldn’t have been so bad

Similar to what Marcus said when I told him – “it wasnt far enough up north” (still too lundun)

Who’s that then?

@spangle 455711 wrote:

I heard about the stabbing at the party apparently they just said over the mic on the rig ‘leave the blades at home guys’. I didn’t see a whole lot of sketchiness but I can see what you mean about the change in profile of partiers lots of youngens who haven’t been to many. Is it the same though accross the whole underground scene? Certain oldschool local crews always attract familiar faces and I can’t help but think Bristol wouldn’t have been so bad

I know the crews you mean and whilst to be fair they do a reasonably good job, once you have over about 1500 people its near impossible to guarantee everyones safety even with a professional security team. For instance Latitude is a event more like a glorified sixth form disco with peoples parents and teachers invited too, and there have still been two rapes at that event.

Looking at where events (including licensed ones) still happen its clear that they are increasingly now in poorer areas which are either inland or lack a popular seaside resort / day time economy – or where the organisers are rich enough to pay the licensing costs up front.

The cost of every incident from the night time economy is counted and offset against the money raised from licenses and taxes, (Suffolk have been doing this for about 5 years, not just cops but also the Council and NHS gathering data) and if the numbers don’t add up certain events stop being tolerated/encoraged.

For instance he £20 000 that the Suffolk authorities wanted in licensing costs for a small festival is a fuckload of money but only pays for one persons replacement bladder and their long term treatment or the cost of dealing with a single serious incident like a stabbing or a road traffic collision (which is actuallly much more of a risk to young ravers than drugs or violence) associated with the event.

@georgeliverpool94 455752 wrote:

same party different lad that got it

phat rave lol

Banging, wish I’d been there. I could have saved money on my halloween costume by just getting someone to kick the shit out of me.

Sounds like it really wasn’t the night for Halloween parties tbh….
There was meant to be one up the road from here in Arundel that got busted while setting up…. Acid Monkey got busted and moved to another venue then got busted again…. there was a big multi rigger as well in London and someone there had their laptop stolen at the start of the night… then there’s the bedfordshire stabbing….

Kinda glad we didn’t make it out now…