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  • #1199848
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    Col;329380 wrote:
    “People” meaning me – You can refer to me by name you know.

    both you and polygon asked why I didn’t comment..

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    That’s entirely subjective tbh and those sorts of observations, can only really be made – with any accuracy – based on personal experience / parties attended. I’ve attended several events, over recent years – that would suggest otherwise.

    varies by region but things have got worse here and led to the clampdown, as people were too stubborn to compromise. its still possible these problems could affect the Midlands/North, especially when ravers from other areas start to target it as a honey pot due to easy access to cars and stuff like satnavs..

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    If, in the unlikely event a fight were to occur, as a result of this thread (and let’s face it, nothing really serious or offensive has been said to this point – that would warrant such behaviour) it would always be away from the rig and up some woodland path eh.

    thats still a veiled threat in the eyes of the law, in extreme circumstances if it did come to anything it would be one of us mods having to explain to the cops the run up to the events..

    this is and always has been a public forum under the worlds scrutiny and no one here is immune from the law..[/quote]

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    Telling each other to jog on, fuck off and general name calling etc etc directed at the individual you are debating with – is as essential to the discussion process – as expressing a more considered view.

    ad hominem attacks merely entrench views – they may work if you don’t actually want a consensus – but in which case why have the “discussion” in the first place?

    in many cases name calling escalates into personal conflict, and eventually violence. The urban/grime music scene of London and the way “unregulated” social networks of youths such as bebo have evolved has proven that, now Nanny has fought back and fought hard with stuff like metpol form 696 and events being marginalised.

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    With regards to not posting here regularly and the whole free speech thing – It’s more to do with things being over moderated at times.

    We only remove spammers, mindless trolling, and blatant security risks to people (bearing in mind this site makes no attempt to hide itself from the scrutiny of search engines, the mainstream media or the worlds govts and law enforcement).

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    From my perspective, it almost looks as if PV is happy to take but – not to give anything in return. I’m not saying this is the case but, I only asked for a simple favour and look at the melee – that has created.

    All you had to do was send a PM to a mod what you wanted posted in the party section! Instead of doing so, you chose to complain and make a huge fuss over a policy most people

    if you think PV is that bad why bother using the place at all? I don’t bother with commercial dance events in Norwich because they are too closely regulated (and not even safe…) and they don’t fit in with my ethos, but will make a compromise some for legal events in Suffolk – you have to make compromises at some point, otherwise you are left on your own and out on a limb..

    BTW the issues regarding subscription and your “stirring the pot” are interlinked.

    We enforced the “suscription to plug pay events” rule because a lot of Americans were spamming the board with huge commercial rave events a few years back, as well as large promoters like Gatecrasher(!), radio 1 etc.

    We would have let the British / Euro promoters of smaller events post for free still but it would be divisive/racist to selectively apply the rules. From what I remember it wasn’t just done by Dr B on a whim, there was a fair bit of debate about it and especially the effects on smaller UK based promoters.

    Ditto with people “trolling/stirring the pot”. you may say its “honourable” but what has it achived, other than a pointless argument, and how can it be put aside from anyone else just whinging for any other reason?

    at the end of the day there is no guarantee of free speech on any forum, they are private property and resources of someone and the person what pays the hosting fees (which is Dr B, not myself) has the ultimate say over what the resources are used for.

    #1199909
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    simply trading insults and being generally offensive doesnt help to get a point across far from it.

    #1200006
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    Col;329380 wrote:
    It’s rarely mindless and just for “teh lolz”. There is usually – always a point to it.

    Can I haz teh mindless lolz plz 😉

    #1199925
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    Col;328940 wrote:
    Next time you disrespect my mother – I’ll kick your fucking arse you silly wee boy.

    Call me a cunt by all means, it’s fair game – don’t go insulting my family.

    Ask over at SJ how I’m likely to respond to that.

    Idiot

    The discussion ends here.

    There is absolutely nothing else we have to say to each other.

    Now jog the fuck on wee man.

    for fucks sake col, i give up, what i said on SJ still stands over here.

    jesus fucking christ its a generic insult and is meant to insult you not your mother, ‘sjust putting it into that context as an insult.

    tbh i thought you was ok, but your just a fucking SJ reject coming on here, funnily enough we have the same reaction to this bullshit.

    oh and if you really was upset at comments about your family, why not ask for them to be left out, fair enough innit, someone asked me to not joke about a certain thing i wouldnt. but to go around threatening violence at a comment that almost every other person in modern society would laugh at is pathetic. violence is so fucking narrow-minded, and i had you down for an intelligent guy. don’t give all the “background” crap that means shit.

    as for all the “generation” crap, i’d say that’s a fair bit of shit as well. on SJ people of younger and older generations can both see the ridiculous way you sometimes act.

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    boothy;329465 wrote:
    for fucks sake col, i give up, what i said on SJ still stands over here.

    jesus fucking christ its a generic insult and is meant to insult you not your mother, ‘sjust putting it into that context as an insult.

    tbh i thought you was ok, but your just a fucking SJ reject coming on here, funnily enough we have the same reaction to this bullshit.

    You are speaking for yourself are you not ?

    You thought I was ok etc. Are you gonna judge people, based on brief interactions on the net ? I’ll refrain from judging you in a similar fashion as I’m slightly more inclined to meet someone, share an experience – then formulate an opinion on them.

    SJ reject ??

    Ask any of the old posters for an honest opinion on that one – or I could quote them for you if you like.

    It’s a couple of silly dickheads with too much time on their hands and multiple troll accounts – that creates the impression there is a consensus about Col hating.

    Ask the original cast, very few of us have a bad word to say about each other.

    But anyway, you go right ahead and form an opinion and make a judgement call on me.

    So free aren’t you.

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    ok i was too strong in my reply. i dont judge you anything but, im judging the internet persona, and i dont really care upto the violence part.

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    @col 329470 wrote:

    You thought I was ok etc. Are you gonna judge people, based on brief interactions on the net ? I’ll refrain from judging you in a similar fashion as I’m slightly more inclined to meet someone, share an experience – then formulate an opinion on them.

    double standards again, so much double standards from u its so hypocritical

    in all fairness, your very biggoted, and attack people instead of the argument, and if you are proven wrong, you attack the person, or dismiss it..

    :yakk:

    ps.. general lighting @ you sum everything up perfectly

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    joshd96320;329484 wrote:
    double standards again, so much double standards from u its so hypocritical

    in all fairness, your very biggoted, and attack people instead of the argument, and if you are proven wrong, you attack the person, or dismiss it..

    :yakk:

    ps.. general lighting @ you sum everything up perfectly

    +1. :weee:

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    joshd96320;329484 wrote:
    double standards again, so much double standards from u its so hypocritical

    in all fairness, your very biggoted, and attack people instead of the argument, and if you are proven wrong, you attack the person, or dismiss it..

    :yakk:

    ps.. general lighting @ you sum everything up perfectly

    we’ll never know how these intellectual superiors work

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    after reading this thread , col’s gotta be having a larf, most of his posts contain no debate or intellectual converstation, and even threatining violance! theres nothing intellectual about violance,

    he says he wants a challange however whenever he has been challenged hes got well mardy,

    theres lots of contarctions to what hes posted, and most valid points put to him are swept aside with what seems like anger! not “controlled deabte” or delt with “intellectually”

    all this melarky about him knowing the world and his dog is just pretentious garbage and very un-needed in an “intellectual debate”

    and as for the way in wich he took the your momma joke, that is just captain insano! as two seconds later hes calling someone a spastic!

    i feel team that this has to be a troll/troll activity to get a rise out of people as this seems to pass his time

    this is my observation as youve been giving it all the lemon on a public forum, im new so apologies if ive “stepped out of the newbie line” as it where

    and aplogies for atrocius spelling!

    reach for the lasers !

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    Minghead;329497 wrote:
    after reading this thread , col’s gotta be having a larf, most of his posts contain no debate or intellectual converstation, and even threatining violance! theres nothing intellectual about violance,

    he says he wants a challange however whenever he has been challenged hes got well mardy,

    theres lots of contarctions to what hes posted, and most valid points put to him are swept aside with what seems like anger! not “controlled deabte” or delt with “intellectually”

    all this melarky about him knowing the world and his dog is just pretentious garbage and very un-needed in an “intellectual debate”

    and as for the way in wich he took the your momma joke, that is just captain insano! as two seconds later hes calling someone a spastic!

    i feel team that this has to be a troll/troll activity to get a rise out of people as this seems to pass his time

    this is my observation as youve been giving it all the lemon on a public forum, im new so apologies if ive “stepped out of the newbie line” as it where

    and aplogies for atrocius spelling!

    reach for the lasers !

    thats the thing i dont get, he thinks he is so clever but no one else sees it but himself. hes got some issues

    #1200027
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    captain insano! spend a few years on sj, and i think he pretty much got the same re-action there, just alot worse ahh well horses for courses and all that!

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    Minghead;329512 wrote:
    captain insano! spend a few years on sj, and i think he pretty much got the same re-action there, just alot worse ahh well horses for courses and all that!

    i think he enjoys arguements and fights, he lacks this moral compass he speaks of

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    so glad i didnt get involved in all this this lol!!

    #1199922
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    Jeez – looks like I went to sleep last night at the right time!

    It seems to me this started out as a joke and I for one was enjoying the banter but IMO its begining to cross a line and you both should just agree to dissagree – you seem not to like each other or what each other stand for – so what? :you_crazy

    get on with it – ignore each other, this just seems to me pointless, unnecessary and its not going to achieve anything as neither of you are seemingly gonna back down

    there is enough shit going on in the real world for pointless petty arguments on the net about nothing –

    I am aware Col your upset with the your mum joke – you’ve aired that – which is cool

    isnt it time for this to be put to bed?

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    Tank Girl;329575 wrote:
    isnt it time for this to be put to bed?

    ennit,

    but ive seen a fair few of these go on for a while on sj, i wouldnt be suprised if col and pol go on for a few more pages,

    ive given up and reading the actual argument and have just started reading other peoples input.

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    Tank Girl;329575 wrote:
    you seem not to like each other or what each other stand for – so what? :you_crazy

    i dont actually dislike the geezer, i do very sorry for him though

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    WIBBLE!

    #1199930
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    Wow. My Wibble seems to of ended this dispute. Maybe i can apply my wibble to the middle east and see if that has the same effect.

    #1199934
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    DaftFader
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    lol cliff :love:

    #1199997
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    p0ly
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    i prefer nibble

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    elretardo87
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    elretardo87;329782 wrote:
    pink_handbag_medium.jpg

    :laugh_at: :laugh_at: :laugh_at:

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    @DJCliffy 329612 wrote:

    WIBBLE!

    u sir r a genius :love:
    mod shud employ u

    no they shouldnt

    your mine cliffy

    MINE

    now get into the bag..

    #1199899
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    @p0lygon-Window 329578 wrote:

    i dont actually dislike the geezer, i do very sorry for him though

    Save your sympathy

    I’m alright jack

    If I shared your outlook on people and the world in general – I’d probably need a little but, I don’t – so I won’t.

    I apologise for maybe going a bitt OTT on the mum joke and responding in an aggressive way. It was a bit childish but then – so was the joke. Mirrored

    There is nothing else you need say to me – nor I you.

    We clearly don’t have the time of day for each other – so in the interests of keeping pv a fluffy space (as artificial as the PLUR is here these days) for everyone else here, could you possibly afford me the courtesy, of allowing me the space – to express myself, without constant childlike interactions / interruptions and moronic points of view.

    I’ll make a point of returning the courtesy by not interacting with you at all.

    Everyone’s a winner.

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