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August 14, 2006 at 11:46 am #1038866
from our local newspaper..
ALL these elderly people wanted was for a place where they could chat, play games and ward off loneliness together.
Instead they have found themselves in a David and Goliath battle with a housing association which has ordered them to take down the tent where they gather each afternoon in the communal garden of their Ipswich housing scheme.
The residents of Hanover Housing Association’s Black Horse Lane sheltered housing complex pitched together to purchase the £129 tent from Argos so that they could while away their days enjoying each others’ company rather than spending them alone in their cramped flats.
Their housing complex, which is overlooked by Ipswich police station and Ipswich Borough Council’s Civic Drive headquarters, has no communal space and nowhere for the residents to spend time together.
Instead of asking the housing association to spend money creating one, the residents paid £26 each to purchase the tent and they erected it on the lawn last Friday.
One resident, Kenneth “Happy” Sewell, 78, today described the afternoons that have followed as some of the best of his life but the neighbourly spirit has not been matched by some, including the warden at the flats, who want the tent removed from the lawn.
Mr Sewell said: “I come here for the friendship. It’s lovely.”
Another resident, 86-year-old Florrie Stalley, had barely left her flat since Christmas until the tent went up last week. Today she appealed for the housing association to allow it to remain.
She said: “We look forward to coming out. Please let us keep it up.”
In the days since the tent was erected the residents have gathered to talk, sing songs together, play draughts and listen to music.
Jimmy Evans, 74, said: “The tent is fantastic. We come here for company, not to argue with people.”
Eileen Craven, 79, added: “We have our lunch at home and come out to the tent afterward. Some of us want to go in to see Coronation Street and then come back out. We stayed out until 9pm one night!”
HANOVER Housing Association said it was “very concerned about the situation which has developed” at the Black Horse Lane retirement complex.
A spokesman for the association said the residents who erected the tent had been told that it had to be taken down for two reasons.
The spokesman said: “Firstly it is placed in an area which is for communal use by all the residents and secondly it could be a health and safety risk and if an accident occurred because of its erecting, it would be the responsibility of those residents who put up the tent.
“Hanover acknowledges that residents wish to entertain and enjoy themselves outside, particularly during the recent spell of hot weather.
“However the estate facilities are there for all residents to enjoy and we have to put the safety and security of all residents first.
“We have asked the residents to propose an alternative to the tent which could then be considered and voted on by all residents.”
Weblink: http://www.hanover.org.uk
August 14, 2006 at 11:57 am #1086190hea;th and safety gone mad, surley it would be better for their health to have some friends and enjoy the outside air wuithout getting sunburnt? how ridiculous.
Apparantly firemen arent allowed to use a firemans pole any more because of H+S!
August 14, 2006 at 11:57 am #1086191hea;th and safety gone mad, surley it would be better for their health to have some friends and enjoy the outside air without getting sunburnt? how ridiculous.
Apparantly firemen arent allowed to use a firemans pole any more because of H+S!
August 14, 2006 at 12:11 pm #1086185so mnay times health and safety rules are used as an excuse to push other agendas.
tents and gazebos need to be checked for safety before Argos is allowed to sell them..
I personally think it is partly the housing association annoyed at people “not going through the proper channels”, and a few Victor Meldrew types within the housing complex who complained about this.
I have met many older people who think it is not right for English people to take part in direct action and activism unless they are actually fighting a war and everything else “must be done by the rules… or we will end up like the French where there are riots every day”
as for the firefighters poles the real reason is that some authorities are saving money on fire stations by using smaller and cheaper properties where there is not enough space to put the pole (which makes you wonder how they are supposed to run an emergency service in such a cramped space which must be even more unsafe…)
August 14, 2006 at 12:25 pm #1086188“Firstly it is placed in an area which is for communal use by all the residents
Errr, yeah, and they are USING it. I could understand if they had erected a massive marquee and a soundsystem but this is bonkers.
:you_crazy
August 14, 2006 at 2:10 pm #1086192badly handled by that housing association or what?
:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazyAugust 14, 2006 at 2:28 pm #1086186raj wrote:badly handled by that housing association or what?
:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazyTBH there isn’t much they can do as it is the law and they can get hassle from the authorities and sued in civil court if something did goes wrong. (this is the real reason for a lot of this restrictive legislation).
I do get the impression from the way the article is worded there wasn’t a complete consensus between all the residents about whether the tent was OK.
I’ve just checked on the net and this block is a 31 flat block. (not sure if its singles or doubles).
if the residents paid £26 each towards the tent that means that only 5 residents were the main people setting up the tent; of which 4 have talked to the papers…
What I find worse than the actions of the housing association (who are worried about losing their registration to run a sheltered housing block) is why the others in the block don’t appear prepared to tolerate the tent nor to support their neighbours by also talking to the Press, or have even grassed them up to the warden (this is like some sort of scene in an old British comedy film TBH)…
I bet if all 31 residents or a majority had stood their ground they would be able to keep the tent.
Aren’t they supposed to be the generation that 70 years ago fought for our freedom?
August 14, 2006 at 2:31 pm #1086193an ‘if we cant have fun no one can’ attitude? :you_crazy
August 14, 2006 at 2:43 pm #1086187raj wrote:an ‘if we cant have fun no one can’ attitude? :you_crazymakes you wonder how (and why) they keep themselves going all those years with that attitude to life.
August 14, 2006 at 5:13 pm #1086194no idea mate
it baffles me:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
August 14, 2006 at 5:49 pm #1086189complaining wankers should be made to lead the sing-songs with a smile on their faces
August 14, 2006 at 5:51 pm #1086195globalloon wrote:complaining wankers should be made to lead the sing-songs with a smile on their faces/me RATFLMAO
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