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  • #1042467
    AvatarDavetherave
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    I found this video on youtube and i thought this is what party’s should be like when the police turn up :-

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATzLj-rWTCo

    not like what happened at gt. yarmouth and ingham.

    #1120762
    Avatarsuffolkravas
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    fuckin right mate, all you need to do when old bill comes is talk it out, and hope u aint got any lil rudebwoys throwin shit and makin barricades! police are usually reasonable until the ravers hit the point where the police have reason to belive they are potentially dangerous. then they will do anything; beat pregnant women, stomp people who cant walk, beat people who are already on the ground covering their faces, smask car windows and spray pepperspray through, the lot! so dont give them any reason to do this, and it wont happen! thanks for postin the video mate, gonna show this to the new USA krew to show em how to handle the situation as it arises, cause UK style parties are kinda new to my mates out here, thanks a lot mate, peace and rerspect to you! :group_hug

    #1141530
    Avatarsuffolkravas
    Participant

    fuckin right mate, all you need to do when old bill comes is talk it out, and hope u aint got any lil rudebwoys throwin shit and makin barricades! police are usually reasonable until the ravers hit the point where the police have reason to belive they are potentially dangerous. then they will do anything; beat pregnant women, stomp people who cant walk, beat people who are already on the ground covering their faces, smask car windows and spray pepperspray through, the lot! so dont give them any reason to do this, and it wont happen! thanks for postin the video mate, gonna show this to the new USA krew to show em how to handle the situation as it arises, cause UK style parties are kinda new to my mates out here, thanks a lot mate, peace and rerspect to you! :group_hug

    #1120752
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    there is a book called “The Strong Arm of the Law” by Professor P A J Waddington (I think he is a professor of Criminology at the University of Reading).

    it is quite expensive to get second hand as it is out of print, but most college or university libraries as well as some public libraries should have a copy or be able to get one.

    Everyone who is or may be involved in any form of activism/direct action in the UK (including raves) should read it.

    It explains exactly how and why the Police in Great Britain escalate their accepted levels of force to deal with certain situations and the history of such units as the Territorial Support Group (“riot squad”), a comparatively recent development which did not exist until the late 1970s.

    the situation in the UK is unique as we have a mostly unarmed constabulary, a supposed tradition of “policing via consent” and an extreme reluctance to deploy a Gendarmerie or even the regular Army to deal with civillian disturbances.

    We may not like what the cops sometimes do, but compared to many other Commonwealth or EU nations or the USA (where in many cases people on all sides are prepared to use firearms and explosives!) they are a lot more lenient.

    #1141520
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    there is a book called “The Strong Arm of the Law” by Professor P A J Waddington (I think he is a professor of Criminology at the University of Reading).

    it is quite expensive to get second hand as it is out of print, but most college or university libraries as well as some public libraries should have a copy or be able to get one.

    Everyone who is or may be involved in any form of activism/direct action in the UK (including raves) should read it.

    It explains exactly how and why the Police in Great Britain escalate their accepted levels of force to deal with certain situations and the history of such units as the Territorial Support Group (“riot squad”), a comparatively recent development which did not exist until the late 1970s.

    the situation in the UK is unique as we have a mostly unarmed constabulary, a supposed tradition of “policing via consent” and an extreme reluctance to deploy a Gendarmerie or even the regular Army to deal with civillian disturbances.

    We may not like what the cops sometimes do, but compared to many other Commonwealth or EU nations or the USA (where in many cases people on all sides are prepared to use firearms and explosives!) they are a lot more lenient.

    #1120766
    Avatarspangle
    Participant

    i no all the people u can see in that vid! best way 2 deal wit police know ur rights n be firm but polite rather than confrontational

    #1141535
    Avatarspangle
    Participant

    i no all the people u can see in that vid! best way 2 deal wit police know ur rights n be firm but polite rather than confrontational

    #1120758
    AvatarAcidfairy
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    It still makes me laugh that the police seem to think that there is just one “ringleader” who has organised it all… they don’t seem to realise how much effort it takes to put on a party and that there is never just one person that has done it all…

    We had a similar situation where they just wanted the name of the one organiser and when we tried to tell them that nearly everyone there had helped organise it in one way or another they were having none of it..

    #1141526
    AvatarAcidfairy
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    It still makes me laugh that the police seem to think that there is just one “ringleader” who has organised it all… they don’t seem to realise how much effort it takes to put on a party and that there is never just one person that has done it all…

    We had a similar situation where they just wanted the name of the one organiser and when we tried to tell them that nearly everyone there had helped organise it in one way or another they were having none of it..

    #1120767
    Avatarspangle
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    they just want one persons name so then its easy 4 them to put blame on sumone n get a conviction etc – its pretty hard for police 2 take action against a group of people where thers no direct responsibilty..

    #1141536
    Avatarspangle
    Participant

    they just want one persons name so then its easy 4 them to put blame on sumone n get a conviction etc – its pretty hard for police 2 take action against a group of people where thers no direct responsibilty..

    #1120753
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    spangle wrote:
    they just want one persons name so then its easy 4 them to put blame on sumone n get a conviction etc – its pretty hard for police 2 take action against a group of people where thers no direct responsibilty..

    this is why they confiscate rigs, as obviously people want them back, and then the cops can link the property with the crime scene and quiz the owners as to why it was brought there..

    #1141521
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
    Moderator
    spangle wrote:
    they just want one persons name so then its easy 4 them to put blame on sumone n get a conviction etc – its pretty hard for police 2 take action against a group of people where thers no direct responsibilty..

    this is why they confiscate rigs, as obviously people want them back, and then the cops can link the property with the crime scene and quiz the owners as to why it was brought there..

    #1120763
    AvatarSound-Guy
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    No audio 😥

    #1141531
    AvatarSound-Guy
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    No audio 😥

    #1120760
    AvatarAnonymous

    yea, textbook case of how to deal with old bill. be calm and reasonable, and dont give them any names. its not like they were pushed that hard for the name anyway. police might not be so easy to deal with next time that site is used tho…

    Sound-Guy wrote:
    No audio 😥

    there is, must be your computer.

    #1141528
    AvatarAnonymous

    yea, textbook case of how to deal with old bill. be calm and reasonable, and dont give them any names. its not like they were pushed that hard for the name anyway. police might not be so easy to deal with next time that site is used tho…

    Sound-Guy wrote:
    No audio 😥

    there is, must be your computer.

    #1120770
    AvatarPlayground Politics
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    i love the bit when he goes hey u take thats stuf outta ur nose(earing) it doesnt look very nice, and everyone goes really quiet, and then he jokes about it, like its alright to take the piss outta someone when they are being so reasonable:hopeless::yakk:
    such an uncomfortable silence

    #1141539
    AvatarPlayground Politics
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    i love the bit when he goes hey u take thats stuf outta ur nose(earing) it doesnt look very nice, and everyone goes really quiet, and then he jokes about it, like its alright to take the piss outta someone when they are being so reasonable:hopeless::yakk:
    such an uncomfortable silence

    #1120768
    AvatarAJS
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    …and this is how policemen should behave. We should get this guy over to the UK to train some our bobbies in how to handle freeparties. It seems that not all coppers are bastards after all.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DtEOBfzvU

    Grrr, how do you make it put the video on the post?

    #1141537
    AvatarAJS
    Participant

    …and this is how policemen should behave. We should get this guy over to the UK to train some our bobbies in how to handle freeparties. It seems that not all coppers are bastards after all.

    [yt]k_DtEOBfzvU[/yt]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DtEOBfzvU

    Grrr, how do you make it put the video on the post?

    #1120756
    Avatargloballoon
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    Playground Politics wrote:
    i love the bit when he goes hey u take thats stuf outta ur nose(earing) it doesnt look very nice, and everyone goes really quiet, and then he jokes about it, like its alright to take the piss outta someone when they are being so reasonable:hopeless::yakk:
    such an uncomfortable silence

    he goes into some sort of parent role, ticking someone off for being a bit silly… totally not in his remit

    #1141524
    Avatargloballoon
    Participant
    Playground Politics wrote:
    i love the bit when he goes hey u take thats stuf outta ur nose(earing) it doesnt look very nice, and everyone goes really quiet, and then he jokes about it, like its alright to take the piss outta someone when they are being so reasonable:hopeless::yakk:
    such an uncomfortable silence

    he goes into some sort of parent role, ticking someone off for being a bit silly… totally not in his remit

    #1120774
    AvatarTheCat77
    Participant

    I love the way old bill tuck their arms up inside their stab vests. Do they teach them to do that in training or something?! They must do, I seem them do it all the time.

    Right lads, when attempting to reason with people just tuck your arms in like this and they’ll see your being non-confrontational and everything will be tickety-boo. :laugh_at:

    #1141543
    AvatarTheCat77
    Participant

    I love the way old bill tuck their arms up inside their stab vests. Do they teach them to do that in training or something?! They must do, I seem them do it all the time.

    Right lads, when attempting to reason with people just tuck your arms in like this and they’ll see your being non-confrontational and everything will be tickety-boo. :laugh_at:

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