@barnzy001 455022 wrote:

i know people who have had messages that could not be faked they have been told things only they knew

do you not think that it might be that you just cant see how it was done? would be rather more likely

@kiwifruit 455127 wrote:

Basically this psycic chick goes in and sees whats what. At the same time a real detective goes and finds out about the house and its history etc. BUT they do not contact each other until they have a joint meeting with the people who called them in to find out what the hell is going on in their house.

psychics use similar resources to detectives to come up with the information a lot of the time. Think it was Darren Brown who planted a false history over the internet and false photographs in the building etc then invited in some “psychics” to see what they could feel. I think you can guess what happened.

@p0ly 455132 wrote:

also the derren brown thing where they give 30 people a piece of paper describing their personality and everyone goes, this is so much like me!! then they get told to swap the papers and everyone has the same one.

ah yes I remember that! done a similar thing myself in the past with people who believe in astrology. Amazing how people will ignore all the evidence that contradicts their own viewpoint, especially if its part of their identity.

@HSB 455131 wrote:

psychics use similar resources to detectives to come up with the information a lot of the time. Think it was Darren Brown who planted a false history over the internet and false photographs in the building etc then invited in some “psychics” to see what they could feel. I think you can guess what happened.

I should add she has someone go in to “clean” the house before she goes in. That is, remove all photos and anything that would influence her…
Check out eppie 1. It’s a goodie.
You can watch all the parts on utube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoC7-01YpQ

@kiwifruit 455139 wrote:

I should add she has someone go in to “clean” the house before she goes in. That is, remove all photos and anything that would influence her…
Check out eppie 1. It’s a goodie.
You can watch all the parts on utube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoC7-01YpQ

objects in the house are only a small part of the method. And I am sure she employs a verity of different techniques.

@p0ly 455148 wrote:

so how come the tv psychics are all considered fake money makers but the little people sitting in a church no one knows are like super psychic gods who guessed (or talked to a spirit w/e) something right once or twice. funny how the big mainstream names get shown to be fakes cos they’re in the public eye…

ironically for the same reason little girls are encouraged to share more healthier food with horses – Attitudes change over the years and people become more tolerant but more aware.

A few centuries ago folk like “phsycics” or anyone into the occult or non mainstream media would be lit on fire in the town square and even in my living memory they did not get given a platform on the mainstream media. (they had stopped burning them though, its not smokeless fuel!)

Now anythings tolerated especially if its classed as “entertaintment” rather than genuine faith group displays, and even faith groups cross over (such as the well funded and tolerated Christian music scene). The mainstream view is that most people don’t believe in this stuff as much as they once used to and as society is more secular and even organised faith becoming a lot more “street level” the man or woman on the street believes less in this kind of stuff.

I was half tempted to attend a New Age gathering in Stowmarket this weekend just gone but would not have been able to take the opening ceremonies etc seriously (for this reason I was never much good as a Catholic either) and as at least some good friends would be there I didn’t want to offend people. (process might have enjoyed it though :laugh_at:)

@p0ly 455154 wrote:

yeah i heard about the law in the spiritualism churches saying they cannot market it as psychic and have to use entertainment instead.

yes and they get tolerated as this because they provide work for middle class theatre luvvie types (when this is thin on the ground) and make money off the mainstream but more credulous working classes whlst not encouraging noise/hedonism (you don’t get for instance someones son who OD’d sending a message back from the afterlife that we should all party in his memory)… a bit like old style faith groups used to do when they had more power (to be fair they are now doing more useful stuff).

I am not even completely sceptical/cynical about the wider concepts of spiritualism (hence why I was even considering going to the new age meeting) but have little time for these sorts of displays..