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    been protests outside a new tesco’s there for a while now and some squat was getting evicted opposite.. police decided that trying to evict the squat at night rather than morning was a good idea,:you_crazy

    BBC News – Eight officers hurt in violent clashes in Bristol

    12 Riot vans n glos road… – HIJACK // Bristol Music Culture

    some photos here

    Stokes Croft Riot – a set on Flickr

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    good set of pictures here…

    BRISTOL: stokes croft tesco riot

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    I read somewhere is wasn’t about evicting the squatters but that they had inteligenc they were gonna burn / petrol bomb the tescos. Either way I am sure a few people will go down and ob enjoyed cracking sum skulls.

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    @extraslim 431914 wrote:

    I read somewhere is wasn’t about evicting the squatters but that they had inteligenc they were gonna burn / petrol bomb the tescos. Either way I am sure a few people will go down and ob enjoyed cracking sum skulls.

    they didnt actually arrest anyone from the squat apparently and all they found was equipment that could be used in making petrol bombs.. so that’ll be empty bottles, petrol and some rags then, hardly out of the ordinary stuff to have lying around in a squat.

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    Hard to say without being there, but I take ur point. If they didn’t have good reason to suspect though seems an odd way for the ob to waste money. And judging from the riots it does suggest some at least were not too law abiding. But who knows.

    Don’t really like all this anti tesco stuff seems a bit daft given the type of society we live in and their clear popularity. Certainly don’t support anything other than peaceful protest and other legal methods.

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    I think there’s a wider agenda and the right wing are pissed off with squatters/alternative types as a whole and with Tories back in power more willing to use strong force. Even Tescos are most likely acting as players in a wider political strategy game about the supremacy of private property rights and the free market, they can after all afford to have a shop smashed up.

    The local Labour councillor was shoved out of the way by riot cops, she is an elected representative of the people and cops must realise she is going to complain to the media so it does seem like a show of strength, especially picking a time when pissed up townies are going to join in and nowadays its “cool to hate the pigs” even amongst pissheads, gary boys and consumer slaves

    Avsom must clearly have expected a fight or some sort and expected cops to get injured, though often these injuries are stuff like grazed knees / or bizzare things “stress from being hissed and glared at by an angry tomcat..”

    I don’t think anyone comes out of this smelling of roses though, not Tescos, not politicians, cops or the “bohemian” types in that area. It takes more than creating Banksy derivative works and taking/selling ketamine by the litre to create a proper alternative community and I still don’t like the concept of using property damage and the threat of violence to put someone out of business thats how British Asian owned shops were driven out by racists 30 years ago…

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    tesco are fuckers mate, all they care about is getting total monopoly and wiping out all competition. they can afford to run stores at a loss just to insure that there is a tesco there and nothing else. personally id rather have the variety that many little shops offers rather than one big shop or even many little tescos!

    they were using it as a training excercise according to some people they’d drafted in about a hundred cops from wales so they new/planned for it to kick off.

    is same thig as happened in london tho i bet, let people get all heated up and trash stuff in the spure of the moment without thinking then send in the forensics and arrest as many people as possible in the following weeks. cunts.

    also they had a police helicopter up for the whole thing about 8hrs, must have cost so much money… if they had gone in at 6 in the morning and done the raid/eviction at the time they always do them then none of this would have happened.. doing it on a busy night at 9pm on a bank holiday in that area im sure they must have known what would have happend.

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    @process 431953 wrote:

    they were using it as a training excercise according to some people they’d drafted in about a hundred cops from wales so they new/planned for it to kick off.

    is same thig as happened in london tho i bet, let people get all heated up and trash stuff in the spure of the moment without thinking then send in the forensics and arrest as many people as possible in the following weeks. cunts.

    Even the cops openly admitted to the Grauniad and other news agencies they had been training for the incident for ages.

    Closer to home a mate of mine was told by the Suffolk cops that they know everyone hates them so they now treat raves, protest and townie nightlife as all the same and they train for a riot every weekend in Spring/summer… and this was a couple of years ago now. they don’t fight to lose, even if a few coppers take a few knocks.

    As an aside aviation fuel is untaxed, what goes in a helicopter is paraffin (heating oil) for which there is less demand in UK during spring/summer and most police helicopter contracts are negotiated in such a way they are no longer charged per hour.

    This also has been going on for 5 years or more. bear in mind cops/feds/army/govt knew about shit like peak oil and the economic depression since 2005 and the effects the economic depression would have on younger people who don’t want to see the good times end and already started preparing for it… I’m not even that much into conspiracy theory type thigns but was seeing certain stuff happening years ago…

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    @process 431941 wrote:

    they didnt actually arrest anyone from the squat apparently and all they found was equipment that could be used in making petrol bombs.. so that’ll be empty bottles, petrol and some rags then, hardly out of the ordinary stuff to have lying around in a squat.

    They did this to an anti war group in 2003, went into a squat beat the shit out of them, said they were preparing for a violent protest as there was scaffolding poles etc in the area, didnt mention the squat was next door to a building site

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    @guardian 432251 wrote:

    The squatters whose treatment by police sparked an anti-Tesco riot near the centre of Bristol have denied any connection with activists campaigning against the supermarket giant.

    Speaking in the aftermath of one of the most serious outbreaks of disorder in Bristol since the St Pauls riots in 1980, the four occupants of “Telepathic Heights”, which was raided by police on Thursday night, also denied they had been manufacturing Molotov cocktails in the squat.

    “We had no intention of attacking Tesco whatsoever,” said Gavin Houghton, 28. “It was never on the cards – we have nothing to do with the anti-Tesco protest. They’re a separate group.

    “This is a nice building and it would be suicide if we started throwing petrol bombs off the roof. We would never do that. It’s not what we’re about.”

    Avon and Somerset police maintain that the operation was justified and said its officers had found petrol bombs on the roof of the building which had been taken away for tests.

    A spokesman said its forensic experts were trying to establish who made the bombs. He added: “We need to try and link it to the actual people involved because there are a number of people at the address.”

    Around 160 police officers in riot gear raided the squat in the Stokes Croft area to arrest a number of people they said posed “a real threat to the local community”.

    But the operation sparked violent protests amid allegations of heavy-handed tactics. Eight police officers were injured and recently opened Tesco store was badly damaged. Nine protesters were arrested, four of whom appeared before Bristol magistrateson Saturday. None of the four squatters remaining in the building were arrested.

    Houghton and Salim Noormohammad, also 28, told the Observer that the police raid had been violent and unwarranted.

    According to the squatters, the night the police arrived most of those living in the house had already moved out. The group had been in contact with Bristol city council’s empty homes agency and were removing the last of their stuff.

    “We were working on tidying the place up, as you do – it’s a house, so it’s got to be tidy,” says Houghton.

    “Then Salim said the police were trying to get in the front door, so I stopped painting. My first instincts were that there were going to be a few police to tell us that we were going to be evicted. But when I looked out the window it was a completely different story.

    “There were 30 to 40 police officers all dressed up in riot gear and they stormed the building.”

    Noormohammad said that after the officers broke through the door they tipped over the sofas and ripped them open, before emptying the squatters’ recycling box over the floor.

    “Then,” claimed Houghton, “one of the officers barged me in the face with his shield and pushed me across the room and told me to sit down on the floor. Whilst he was pushing me I said, ‘Leave me alone, I’m not doing anything to you.’ Then he started shouting, ‘Sit there, don’t move.’

    “I think once they realised there were only four of us in the building, they calmed down.”

    Houghton said the police officers told him that they were looking for petrol bombs.

    According to witnesses the operation to clear the squat attracted a large crowd of people which blocked Cheltenham Road, one of the main routes into the city centre. By 1am on Friday there was serious trouble outside the Tesco store. Barricades were erected, bottle banks were emptied and their contents hurled at police, rubbish bins were set alight and a concrete slab was thrown at an officer who was knocked to the ground.

    Lewis Clapham, 22, a customer services worker, got caught up in the violence which lasted for several hours. He said: “I wasn’t involved in the protest or the squat. I just happened to be down there and I went up to the police and said I was just passing through, but one of them came and hit me really hard with a baton. I’ve got bruising all down my side now with massive swelling on my elbow.”

    Squatters Noormohammed and Philip Pezard have degrees in English and photography respectively. Noormohammad and Houghton are unemployed and Pezard works as a chef, but said he still didn’t have enough money to rent a home. They said that none of them imagined squatting after university and all claimed to be busy trying to find jobs rather than mounting a campaign against the supermarket chain. “This thing against Tesco,” said Pezard, “it’s the last thing on my mind.”

    The general mood in Stokes Croft is somewhat different. Hostility towards Tesco is apparent almost everywhere you look. For more than a year the residents have run a noisy campaign to stop the chain from opening one of its Express stores on the busy road.

    “No Tesco” graffiti dots walls up and down the road for a mile. Most prominent is a giant mural which gives a clear message to those entering the area: “Think Local, Boycott Tesco.”

    People have also held sit-down protests outside the store every day since its opening less than a fortnight ago. But, amid fears that violence could continue in Bristol over the bank wholiday weekend, the last residents of Telepathic Heights remained adamant that the police were looking in the wrong place for anti-supermarket activists.

    Bristol squatters deny Tesco attack and petrol bomb claims | UK news | The Observer

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    @extraslim 431949 wrote:

    Don’t really like all this anti tesco stuff seems a bit daft given the type of society we live in and their clear popularity. Certainly don’t support anything other than peaceful protest and other legal methods.

    They voted and protested peacefully and were ignored and were then provoked, tesco’s bought up alot of farm land very cheaply after that foot and mouth outbreak in 2000 which happened 3 weeks after a bottle of the virus went missing from cambridge univercity
    Being popular in todays society dos’nt mean we souldnt resist it
    Also back in 2002 i was in a hash house in st pauls, an old jamacan started telling me what had happend 6:00 am that morning,
    The cops came from both sides of city rd, lower ashley rd and stokes croft and anyone on the street got arrested and put in a paddy wagon, people banging on doors trying to get of the street only black people would be walking city rd 6am sunday morning, there was no reason why

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