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    process
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      i reckon that if it doesnt have pastry then it cant qualify as a proper pie. Also most pies have chunks of stuff in them not mince.

      mince pies have chunks in before you start! 😉

      #1200930
      SweetAss
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        After your call on this matter last night I was discussing it daaan pub with some peeps…It seems to split public opinion….Here’s mine (again, I know you heard this last night Process!!)

        A Sheppards or Cottage pie have to be called by their specific names or refered to as a potato pie.

        If i was told I was gonna have a pie I would expect pastry.

        PIE
        abbr.
        Proto-Indo-European


        pie 1 (p)
        n.
        1. A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust.
        2. A layer cake having cream, custard, or jelly filling.
        3. A whole that can be shared: “That would . . . enlarge the economic pie by making the most productive use of every investment dollar” New York Times.
        Idiom:
        pie in the sky
        An empty wish or promise: “To outlaw deficits . . . is pie in the sky” Howard H. Baker, Jr.



        [Middle English.]


        pie 2 (p)
        n.
        See magpie.



        [Middle English, from Old French, from Latin pca.]


        pie 3 (p)
        n.
        A monetary unit formerly in use in India and Pakistan.



        [Hindi p’, from Sanskrit pdik, quarter, from pt, pad-, foot, leg; see ped- in Indo-European roots.]


        pie 4 (p)
        n.
        An almanac of services used in the English church before the Reformation.



        [Medieval Latin pca.]


        pie 5 (p)
        n. & v. Printing
        Variant of pi2.

        The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


        pie
        Noun
        1. a sweet or savoury filling baked in pastry
        2. pie in the sky illusory hope or promise of some future good [origin unknown]
        Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006


        Pie a collection of things made up into a heap; a confused mass; a collection of rules.

        Dictionary definition above says nout about potato!!!!!!!

        #1200917
        process
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          SweetAss;331803 wrote:
          If i was told I was gonna have a pie I would expect pastry

          exactly. 😉

          #1200918
          process
          Participant

            BUT IS SHEPARDS OR COTTAGE PIE ACTUALLY A PIE?!

            #1200929
            ellie
            Participant

              at first i was like – fo shizzle no

              but now i cant stop thinking about it! I’m starting to think, its called a pie so must be a pie… who am i to say its not a pie, who am i to say it can’t be a pie, its been a pie for longer than i’ve been alive. :crazy:

              hmmmmm….

              #1200931
              SweetAss
              Participant

                Right…..this is the aqa answer!!!

                Technically, a shepards pie is not a pie as it has no pastry. It’s called a potato pie in Australia; cowboy pie in America;and a hachis Parmentier in France.

                (Process…txt has been forewarded to whoop whoop!)

                #1200919
                process
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                  SweetAss;331855 wrote:
                  Right…..this is the aqa answer!!!

                  Technically, a shepards pie is not a pie as it has no pastry. It’s called a potato pie in Australia; cowboy pie in America;and a hachis Parmentier in France.

                  (Process…txt has been forewarded to whoop whoop!)

                  I AM THE KING OF THE PIES! :weee:

                  #1200915
                  General Lighting
                  Moderator

                    did they rebuild that pie factory up north in the end (the one what got blown up?)

                    Part of me wants to support them and buy a pie, but at the same time I don’t like the way they were clearly being sketchy with gas safety for the factory ovens to get blown up in the first place…

                    #1200920
                    process
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                      General Lighting;331857 wrote:
                      did they rebuild that pie factory up north in the end (the one what got blown up?)

                      Part of me wants to support them and buy a pie, but at the same time I don’t like the way they were clearly being sketchy with gas safety for the factory ovens to get blown up in the first place…

                      not sure.. bet they didnt have cottage or shepards pies on thier menu tho!

                      #1200927
                      p0ly
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                        shepards pie beats pastry pie

                        #1200921
                        process
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                          p0lygon-Window;331861 wrote:
                          shepards pie beats pastry pie

                          you are having a laugh!

                          #1200928
                          p0ly
                          Participant

                            maybe if it is a really well made homemade pie

                            i’d think differently

                            #1200916
                            General Lighting
                            Moderator

                              I remember seeing a van going through town marked “Essex Pies” – which had pictures of magpies on the side. thought that was marketing trying to be too clever – surely it’s gonna make you wonder about the contents of the pies? Either that or they are into “honest food labelling” :laugh_at:

                              #1200923
                              MisterDuck
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                                p0lygon-Window;331861 wrote:
                                shepards pie beats pastry pie

                                you knows it

                                sheperds or cottage pie may not be an actual pie, but its better than any pastry pie you can throw at me

                                #1200925
                                Southcaver
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                                  You get down newport butchers near me and try one of there steak pie’s.
                                  then tell me some lardy dardy potato craps better than pastry!
                                  NO WAY!!!!

                                  #1200924
                                  MisterDuck
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                                    Southcaver;331911 wrote:
                                    You get down newport butchers near me and try one of there steak pie’s.
                                    then tell me some lardy dardy potato craps better than pastry!
                                    NO WAY!!!!

                                    next time i’m at hull uni i’ll make a detour round to southcave
                                    i’ll eat a steak pie
                                    then i’ll stop by langlands and buy one of their shepherds pies
                                    the testing will commence!

                                    #1200926
                                    Southcaver
                                    Participant

                                      Do it, its in newport though.
                                      A few miles up the road from cave, You will not be disapointed:wink:

                                      #1200922
                                      process
                                      Participant

                                        is a quiche a pie? surely if a apple pie is a pie then a quiche should be a pie.. personally im not sure, even if it does have pastry…

                                        #1200932
                                        SweetAss
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                                          djprocess;332800 wrote:
                                          is a quiche a pie? surely if a apple pie is a pie then a quiche should be a pie.. personally im not sure, even if it does have pastry…

                                          A rich unsweetened custard pie, often containing ingredients such as vegetables, cheese, or seafood:weee:

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