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    Lshak
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    sick of speaking to ignorant and stupid people, bit of a rant…

    so many people believe islam is terrorism, when it is the minority cause the race & religion to be condemned… especially after this incident in woolwhich rip to the man… but not once did i hear him say he was muslim, just saying how corrupt the government is here.. which is true…

    when will people wake up and smell the coffee.. its not the religion that is the problem, let people believe in what they believe in, it IS the government, i wish i could rant my frustration on facebook but seeing as people here (maybe not about religion) but about life & the government are more aware seems more logical to post it here…

    they use islam to further cause conflict between the people, that is their goal, and it works… silly sheep cant see this…

    im confident that one day… possibly in a decade, peace will prosper, and we will live in an almost ideal world.. maybe 15 years..

    #1273442
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    p0ly
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    You seem to think the government is pure evil. To be quite honest if you look close to home you’ll see why people have strong, probably a lot of the time ignorant views on Islam as it’s exactly like your CT paranoia views.

    #1273455
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    Izbeckistan
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    You cant blame the government entirely for this.
    British soldiers joined the army completely at will, some have (and not purposely ) killed thousands of civilians and soldiers.
    As a response to this invasion a couple of guys got angry and murdered a soldier do demonstrate their point.

    Most the people involved in this are not part of the government, having said that the government only has the power the people give them.

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    Chrispydelic
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    Let’s overturn the Government AND LET ANARCHY REIGN!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1273461
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    korno
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    I think the troops are brainwashed into thinking they’re doing good for their country when the government are the ones who win in the end having used these men as scapegoats, that’s just my opinion..
    If anarchy reigned i hardly think a whole bunch of men would travel around to different countries and shoot each other, something tells me that they would do a bit more, living.

    #1273440
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    General Lighting
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    I don’t think all the troops are brainwashed. Its unfair on them, they are not all knuckledraggers. Many know what they are doing and albeit mistakenly think that if they put enough pressure on the Middle Eastern folk they will magically abandon the more extreme parts of their religions, and allow themselves to be dominated by the West and hand over their resources, as they are taught in UK, Europe and USA that this tactic once worked. (it doesn’t quite work as well today, the natives fight back).

    I listen to BFBS every day (forces radio), its not a bad radio station to be fair and its news/interview techniques are excellent (it is even willing to criticise the MOD and Govt regularly) given the accents of many presenters and the shouts to relatives they seem to come from the Psyentists part of the world, clearly joining HM Forces because its the only reasonably paying job in that region. Many folk become coppers too for that reason.

    in the 90s when my drug use was causing a lot of conflict and Dad was still alive, were it not for the instutional racism and bullying (having experienced an amount of this at a prep school I was once at) and my eyesight not being that good without contact lenses, I would have joined up to HM Forces myself. My mum is still a hippy/pacifist type and would have been dismayed but Dad thought being a soldier was a good and manly thing to do. I knew damn well you might have to hurt and kill people but that was part of the job.

    In the 2000s i very nearly fucked off drugs, raves and Party Vibe and joined Border Force. (My mum would still be unhappy with having a son in the feds but would have put it down to Dad’s influence).

    If they had been in London and not Sheffield I would not be here today but you might have seen me on telly by now telling some poor blighter found in a lorry “look mate, I don’t have a problem with your skin colour, it is same as mine, your family might come from the same part of the world too, but when my mum and dad came here they came to Heathrow with jobs lined up and got their papers sorted correctly, and so should you if you want to stay here. it might take longer to sort out, but its a more comfortable journey anyway.”

    Everyone has a snapping point and will do something which “isn’t nice”, whether its becoming a soldier or a terrorist – and a terrorist (these come in all shapes, sizes and colours) is just a more individualist form of soldier with different views to the mainstream military of that country.

    #1273446
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    barrettone
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    I just find it ironic that someone who has enjoyed all the benefits of living in a relatively affluent country like the UK decided to murder a citizen of that country in cold blood to prove a point against the government.

    #1273452
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    Chrispydelic
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    @barrettone 547040 wrote:

    I just find it ironic that someone who has enjoyed all the benefits of living in a relatively affluent country like the UK decided to murder a citizen of that country in cold blood to prove a point against the government.

    Yeah, at least Guy Fawkes tried to blow up the houses of parliament!

    #1273456
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    MC G-Tek
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    I think this sums it up nicely…

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    #1273441
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    General Lighting
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    @barrettone 547040 wrote:

    I just find it ironic that someone who has enjoyed all the benefits of living in a relatively affluent country like the UK decided to murder a citizen of that country in cold blood to prove a point against the government.

    I originally come from that part of SE London and folk there kill each other all the fucking time and sometimes use stuff like politics/religion as a excuse.

    It was even worse from the 1970s to 1990s, there were supposed Christians setting off bombs, any detective who wanted a pistol could have one (leading to the Police shooting at people simply for hanging around with the wrong crowd) and all manner of groups of angry young men kicking off at each other whether it was over skin colour, religion or just because they wanted to seem hard.

    it was why my parents moved out in the 1970s and though I briefly returned there in the 1990s I have no desire to return to London in spite of it supposedly having more nightlife/drugs/parties.

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    The Psyentist
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    @lshak 547006 wrote:

    im confident that one day… possibly in a decade, peace will prosper, and we will live in an almost ideal world.. maybe 15 years..

    Sorry to piss on your bonfire here mate but that is NOT going to happen. If the human race ever achieves perfect peace and harmony it will take a lot longer than 15 years to go from where we currently are to there.

    But realistically there are simply too many of us with different views of what that perfect world would be for it ever to be achieved, and of course you’ll never eliminate all the greedy people that are unwilling to sacrifice their power for equality of others.
    Additionally there are too many factors to overcome to obtain prosperity for everyone. Imagine you could eradicate religion or convert everyone to a single faith, only using religion as an example as you’ve mentioned it in your post, then what? You think everyone would just suddenly get along like one big happy family? NO.

    How are you going to eliminate drought and famine to name just two of the hundreds of other issues that need to be dealt with before we arrive at this utopia you speak of.

    We are too destructive to each other and too disrespectful to our planet. Most people are so concerned with self preservation that these people are collectively driving our species to its demise.

    It is a nice dream you have there Lshak but a dream is all it will ever be.

    #1273443
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    p0ly
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    It’s in your nature to destroy yourself.

    #1273447
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    know_hope
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    @p0ly 547056 wrote:

    It’s in your nature to destroy yourself.

    oh no it isn’t 😉

    #1273444
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    p0ly
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    @know_hope 547069 wrote:

    oh no it isn’t 😉

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-O8UUqd60

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    Pat McDonald
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    @The Psyentist 547055 wrote:

    Sorry to piss on your bonfire here mate but that is NOT going to happen. If the human race ever achieves perfect peace and harmony it will take a lot longer than 15 years to go from where we currently are to there.

    Oh I don’t know. Nuclear exchange would make quite a lot of peace and harmony in about 6 months after the warheads went “boom”.

    Then we’d be down to hitting each other with sticks and stones. Quite a reduction in armed capability.

    #1273449
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    Pat McDonald
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    @lshak 547006 wrote:

    sick of speaking to ignorant and stupid people, bit of a rant…

    Here’s a little trick that helps – other people having drama, you keep calm and answer.

    They get mad and shouty, you keep calm and speak the truth.

    It’s just people having a drama. Having a list of POSTIVE things that Islam has done can help, and AGREEING that violence and armed brutality is not the way to achieve peace.

    It is a way of being tested, being pitched in with unbelievers.

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    Chrispydelic
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    @Pat McDonald 547082 wrote:

    Oh I don’t know. Nuclear exchange would make quite a lot of peace and harmony in about 6 months after the warheads went “boom”.

    Then we’d be down to hitting each other with sticks and stones. Quite a reduction in armed capability.

    Sounds like my kind of existence.

    #1273450
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    Pat McDonald
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    @chrispydelic 547084 wrote:

    Sounds like my kind of existence.

    He’s got a stick or stone! Everybody watch out!

    #1273462
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    korno
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    What about if people didn’t have arms and legs, we were just a head and oval shaped bodys floating around, then we would have to resort to awful namecalling !

    #1273464
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    Deez
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    If you think the world will turn into a Utopia within 15 years then i’m afraid that you too are ignorant.

    #1273458
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    The Psyentist
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    @korno 547100 wrote:

    What about if people didn’t have arms and legs, we were just a head and oval shaped bodys floating around, then we would have to resort to awful namecalling !

    You spelt awful right, well remembered:wink:

    and I mean that in the least condescending way possible.

    #1273463
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    korno
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    For Utopia to happen you would need to be living in complete delirium and lock yourself away where nobody could un-delude you…
    Thanks psy, i actually think of you every time i go to write it wrong, truth be told since you corrected me I still write it wrong but catch myself out, i’ll get there =D

    #1273459
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    The Psyentist
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    @korno 547112 wrote:

    Thanks psy, i actually think of you every time i go to write it wrong, truth be told since you corrected me I still write it wrong but catch myself out, i’ll get there =D

    Ah so I’ve established myself a legacy, however minor it may be I can now die a happy man knowing even after my death my actions will be positively influencing others lol

    #1273460
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    MR207
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    Speaking of ignorance, North Korea was ignorant in trying to outsmart America, Kim is an idiot hahaha

    #1273454
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    Chrispydelic
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    Outsmarting America is not terribly a problem. Outgunning them, however can be problematic.

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