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  • #1097261
    Tek Offensive
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    despite my earlier post about three years ago, ive now moved on to cd’s

    still love vinyl but am selling all my dance records as i simply dont use them anymore, the tunes i do still play ive bought again in wavs and the ones i dont are just sat there, apart from my album collection, that i will never sell.

    back to the topic tho it doesnt seem like theres been that much of a demise in vinyl, although cdjs are much more prominent in all sorts of music, as gl said on music videos, its now just as ‘cool’ to have a cdj playing the tunes, all my mates that dont play dance only buy vinyl, even with serato and traktor scratch being so easy alot of tunes arent released digitally for bassline, uk garage etc

    #1097284
    silent.raver
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    Bit of a bounce for an old thread, so sorry but this is a subject that gets me all upset.

    I love vinyl! I have spent thousands on my collection, well maybe 5 or 6k even though I can’t mix for shit and will never get rid of any.

    As a spectacle, a dj working with vinyl is so much more impressive than seeing someone swapping cd’s (or just miming along to a pre recorded mix – scum)

    The sound cannot be replicated. CD’s sound shit on a big system, on most systems really. Too bright, gets fatiguing after a long time and I always have more ringing in my ears for longer afterwards after a night listening to cddj’s than proper dj’s. It’s a harsh unpleasant sound, vinyl sounds so much more natural, warm, fuller and there’s the character of scratches and pops and crackles… mmm marvellous

    A dude squinting at a laptop, mouse in hand ableton-ing away, yeah it can sound very decent, and the edits and effects are amazing – but remember Richie Hawtin’s decks, efx and 909 mix? 4 decks, a rack of gear and a complete genius and I have never heard anything live that came even close to it. Apart from the man himself obviously! Yes he does great shows now, but I far preferred his vinyl performances

    Surely only a complete twat would subject anyone to hours of high volume mp3’s – wtf is that all about? Heard it many times and it just ruins the party for me. At least play .wavs as was mentioned above. They sound ok.

    Sorry for the rant, I am really saddened by this, and feel so bad for all the record dealers who have lost their businesses

    #1097282
    Buzz
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    i totally understand the appeal of vinyl, but no one can deny the massive list of benefits to using cdj’s or a laptop (traktor/ableton). The argument that digital sounds worse is rediculous as long as its a comparison with someone using .wavs as its not really possible for it to sound any better than that. unless of course your talking about the character of certain pieces of vinyl.

    #1097249
    Anonymous

    what about when your cds skip/fuck-up. damn man, that IS a pisstake

    #1097283
    Buzz
    Participant

    what about when the needle jumps?

    #1097270
    cheeseweasel
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    I’d be interested to know how many people have ever done an AB comparison between vinyl and digital formats. If you’ve got a set of decks, play a wav or mp3 on your computer and match up the same tune on a deck so that they’re playing at the same time. Switch your amp between the decks and computer to compare the two.

    Chances are you’ll be able to hear differences, but I think most people would be surprised and probably a bit disappointed at just how similar they sound (providing you have a decent sound card and aren’t just playing from the line-out on a laptop (which is often the culprit when digital DJs sound shit) and your needles are in good condition).

    #1097279
    AGENT 15
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    @silent.raver 397526 wrote:

    Bit of a bounce for an old thread, so sorry but this is a subject that gets me all upset.

    I love vinyl! I have spent thousands on my collection, well maybe 5 or 6k even though I can’t mix for shit and will never get rid of any. :laugh_at:All the gear, no idea!

    As a spectacle, a dj working with vinyl is so much more impressive than seeing someone swapping cd’s (or just miming along to a pre recorded mix – scum) You are very easily impressed then.

    The sound cannot be replicated. CD’s sound shit on a big system, on most systems really. Too bright, gets fatiguing after a long time and I always have more ringing in my ears for longer afterwards after a night listening to cddj’s than proper dj’s. It’s a harsh unpleasant sound, vinyl sounds so much more natural, warm, fuller and there’s the character of scratches and pops and crackles… mmm marvellous:you_crazy

    A dude squinting at a laptop, mouse in hand ableton-ing away, yeah it can sound very decent, and the edits and effects are amazing – but remember Richie Hawtin’s decks, efx and 909 mix? 4 decks, a rack of gear and a complete genius and I have never heard anything live that came even close to it. Apart from the man himself obviously! Yes he does great shows now, but I far preferred his vinyl performances

    Surely only a complete twat would subject anyone to hours of high volume mp3’s – wtf is that all about? Heard it many times and it just ruins the party for me. At least play .wavs as was mentioned above. They sound ok.Is that not the fault of the DJ rather than the medium?

    Sorry for the rant, I am really saddened by this, and feel so bad for all the record dealers who have lost their businesses

    This is comming from a vinyl junkie , “Records are dead! Long live lossless formats!”
    Embrace the new technolgy or get left behind with Noah and his Ark , listening to the same tunes over and over ,forever…………………………. raaa

    #1097276
    p0ly
    Participant

    5 or 6k worth of records!! don’t you just have a room full of big discs? the sound is better than mp3 but you have to put expensive big plastic discs on decks ๐Ÿ˜›

    #1097274
    DaftFader
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    We didn’t ahve that Mp3 pish in my day … It was all vinyl and casette tapes! :laugh_at:

    I’ve stoped buying vinyl now as it cost’s too much to justify as I don’t ever get a chance to have a mix anymore (I’ve probably got about 1-2 thou records @ ยฃ5-ยฃ8 a pop on average) alltho if I did it would be a waste to sell all my records for some intangable bit of info on a HDD.

    A lot of love went into that collection. I think people who have only started out mixing now are very lucky they can do it for next to nothing!

    As for sound quality mp3’s = shit, lossless = well the name sais it all really.

    I ultimatly prefer vinyl over digital as a whole because to me it means something. It was a past time that I don’t think people who have never had to buy vinyl to DJ can understand easyly.

    It’s like a comfy pair of old trainers compaired to a brand spanking new pair that hurt a little to wear.

    If I start getting more tunes to DJ I’ll most certainly buy more vinyl as for a start at this point it’s cheeper then spunking out on laptop and/or CDJ’s at least for a good few hunderad tunes. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I still get a tingle from watching a vinyl DJ set tho … dunno why – must be the love or something. :laugh_at:

    #1097285
    silent.raver
    Participant

    Quote:
    Originally posted by silent.raver viewpost.gif
    Bit of a bounce for an old thread, so sorry but this is a subject that gets me all upset.

    I love vinyl! I have spent thousands on my collection, well maybe 5 or 6k even though I can’t mix for shit and will never get rid of any. :laugh_at:All the gear, no idea!

    Can’t deny that!

    As a spectacle, a dj working with vinyl is so much more impressive than seeing someone swapping cd’s (or just miming along to a pre recorded mix – scum) You are very easily impressed then.

    Well, yep! (wow you’re good)

    The sound cannot be replicated. CD’s sound shit on a big system, on most systems really. Too bright, gets fatiguing after a long time and I always have more ringing in my ears for longer afterwards after a night listening to cddj’s than proper dj’s. It’s a harsh unpleasant sound, vinyl sounds so much more natural, warm, fuller and there’s the character of scratches and pops and crackles… mmm marvellous:you_crazy

    A dude squinting at a laptop, mouse in hand ableton-ing away, yeah it can sound very decent, and the edits and effects are amazing – but remember Richie Hawtin’s decks, efx and 909 mix? 4 decks, a rack of gear and a complete genius and I have never heard anything live that came even close to it. Apart from the man himself obviously! Yes he does great shows now, but I far preferred his vinyl performances

    Surely only a complete twat would subject anyone to hours of high volume mp3’s – wtf is that all about? Heard it many times and it just ruins the party for me. At least play .wavs as was mentioned above. They sound ok.Is that not the fault of the DJ rather than the medium?

    The dj chooses to play the medium – the medium exists to be chosen.. chicken and egg stuff I guess

    Sorry for the rant, I am really saddened by this, and feel so bad for all the record dealers who have lost their businesses

    @AGENT 15 397663 wrote:

    This is comming from a vinyl junkie , “Records are dead! Long live lossless formats!”
    Embrace the new technolgy or get left behind with Noah and his Ark , listening to the same tunes over and over ,forever…………………………. raaa

    Same tunes over and over, yep that’s why I no longer go to old school nights

    @p0ly 397680 wrote:

    5 or 6k worth of records!! don’t you just have a room full of big discs? the sound is better than mp3 but you have to put expensive big plastic discs on decks ๐Ÿ˜›

    Yeah my loft. It’s good exercise though

    #1097262
    Tek Offensive
    Participant

    vinyl may sound better if your got spanking new needles, good decks and your records are in good nick, but pretty much all my faves have been rinsed so much that they sound shit, i swear one you can even see the grooves are bigger and ‘blunt’.

    #1097275
    DaftFader
    Participant

    @Tek Offensive 397897 wrote:

    vinyl may sound better if your got spanking new needles, good decks and your records are in good nick, but pretty much all my faves have been rinsed so much that they sound shit, i swear one you can even see the grooves are bigger and ‘blunt’.

    yeah that’s the problem with vinyl … big patches of HISSSSS where a wkd scratch sample is :laugh_at:

    #1097264
    suffolkravas
    Participant

    I think I stand by everyone when I say that in an ideal world, vinyl would be the industry standard, and CDJs would not have had the impact that they have upon the world of electronic music production and live performance.

    The fact is that 90% of the tunes that are coming out nowadays (pretty much any new tracks that aren’t D&B coming out of the UK) won’t even be released on vinyl nowadays, and to have the most broad arsenal of tracks possible at your disposal, you will have to resort to a digital form of performance. As disappointing as it is, CDJs and Serato give us a plethora of tunes at our disposal with all of the free downloads and artist releases all over the internet right now, and the difference between being able to download 100 full HD 320’s for free in 1 day and hunting down a single track for weeks before finding it, and generally paying a fiver + another couple quid to be able to feel that 1 track on vinyl is vast. It is almost a requirement to spin digitally if you are planning on progressing at the same speed as the tracks are being released. Regardless, I myself would never give up spinning vinyl entirely, because there’s nothing like throwing down a pure set of classics on wax, and while everybody is spinning CDs and laptops, that one great vinyl performance definitely stands out when you do get to see it (or be it!) every now and again.

    #1097280
    joshd96320
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    serato will do for me i reckon… as i can keep buying my dnb on vinyl and just switch the switch to phono instead of line… and when i want to mix something else… *switch* dingding

    #1097277
    p0ly
    Participant

    90%?? i thought techno was more popular on vinyl these days. damn that clownstep poo!!

    CHAPATI EXPRESS PEOPLE!!! FRENCH GOA TEK = PRICELESS

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