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  • #1053635
    AvatarMC G-Tek
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    I’m a fully grown adult and I’m a complete & total cynic about these things, so why is it that I watch Dynamo & go ‘Wow, I think he’s actually magic’? Anyone else out there know what I mean?

    #1256762
    AvatarChrispydelic
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    His stuff is SO David Blaine!

    #1256757
    AvatarTank Girl
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    I agree – how the fuck!!!

    I’d never heard of him til I met some chap in a mates van at a party and her told me to youtube him…

    and wow!

    #1256769
    AvatarMC G-Tek
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    @Tank Girl 490117 wrote:

    I agree – how the fuck!!!

    I’d never heard of him til I met some chap in a mates van at a party and her told me to youtube him…

    and wow!

    Ha ha, same here! I mock the likes of David Blaine, yet this bloke just staggers me, there’s something very special & very brilliant about him – he makes me believe!

    #1256760
    Avatarwickle
    Participant

    Agreed. it fries ma head every time i watch this show. mind boggling stuff to say the least

    #1256754
    Avatarthelog
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    Hmmm my friend was talking bout this guy last night. Does he use real magic? LOL

    #1256770
    AvatarMC G-Tek
    Participant

    @thelog 490183 wrote:

    Hmmm my friend was talking bout this guy last night. Does he use real magic? LOL

    Ha ha, he doesn’t use magic mate, he IS magic! How the fuck do you walk on water? How do you predict the outcome of every game from the quarter finals of euro 2012 to the final? How do you move someone’s tan line up their arm? How? How? How? I’ll tell ya how – magic!

    #1256755
    Avatarthelog
    Participant

    Two words. Lotto numberz

    LOL

    Lets kidnap the fucker and get rich then we can leave him naked up west hove golf course to get bitten by badgers and squirrels ๐Ÿ™‚

    My mate was saying about the walk on water shit. He was saying last night that he basically believed it. But surley there has got to be a explaination to it??? has there???

    #1256771
    AvatarMC G-Tek
    Participant

    I reckon he’d piss the lotto numbers man, literally!

    I think I’d actually be scared to kidnap him, reckon that dude’s got eyes in the back of his head – and I reckon he’d send the badgers and squirrels round to our houses, but my dogs’ll eat them, ha!

    There must be an explanation for walking on water, but I don’t know what, other than MAGIC!

    #1256764
    AvatarChrispydelic
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    @MC G-Tek 490186 wrote:

    Ha ha, he doesn’t use magic mate, he IS magic! How the fuck do you walk on water?

    The walking on water gag is all pre-arranged. There are platforms that sit just below the water (you’ll notice that his feet are UNDERNEATH the water itself). The “police” are all pre-arranged and know exactly where to stop to pick up the performer.

    C’mon guys, it’s not rocket science and it’s certainly not magic!

    #1256772
    AvatarMC G-Tek
    Participant

    @Chrispydelic 490195 wrote:

    The walking on water gag is all pre-arranged. There are platforms that sit just below the water (you’ll notice that his feet are UNDERNEATH the water itself). The “police” are all pre-arranged and know exactly where to stop to pick up the performer.

    C’mon guys, it’s not rocket science and it’s certainly not magic!

    You’re such a cynic Chrispydelic! Suspend your disbelief for a moment & stop steamrollering our gentle whimsy, lol. We know you want to believe really!

    #1256756
    Avatarthelog
    Participant

    Thanks crispy, I expect you like telling kids there’s no father christmas too..

    Waaahhh

    #1256765
    AvatarChrispydelic
    Participant

    @thelog 490197 wrote:

    Thanks crispy, I expect you like telling kids there’s no father christmas too..

    Waaahhh

    I LOVE doing that! :devil_wag

    Honestly though, once you know how these tricks are done, the only thing amazing about them is the amount of forward planning that goes into them.

    #1256761
    AvatarMoonie
    Participant

    Still looks waaay set up to me, and the one where he cut the headphone wire is really obvious. Still very well done and an awesome watch though.

    #1256766
    AvatarChrispydelic
    Participant

    You don’t exactly have to be Jonathan Creek to work out how most of this stuff is done! Magic was cool when I was young but now it’s just a great way to pick up chicks!

    #1256752
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    @Chrispydelic 490195 wrote:

    The “police” are all pre-arranged and know exactly where to stop to pick up the performer.

    even doing that isn’t as trivial as it seems, real cops, coastguard, environment ministry and similar agencies (quite understandably) really do not like folk doing this without following proper authorisation which isn’t trivial (not for bad reasons either, but you wouldn’t want someome on a boat on the same watercourse getting into difficulties and thinking the “cops” off the film set are real ones and could help them).

    As I spent a large part of the 90s and early 2000s keeping out of the way of feds whilst working in the broadcast industry I soon learned the very subtle ways they allow folk to make authentic drama shows whilst not causing dangerous confusion (especially for scenes where CID/undercover units or large stunts are filmed) but a lot of folk are surprisingly easily fooled (for instance Trigger Happy TV makes a lot of use of the fact that older generations particularly on seeing a man in a peaked hat and uniform tend to obey him, no matter how ridiculous the orders may be).

    BTW magick (the actuall full on stuff new age folk do which I am open minded about but I have more cynicism about any kind of organised faith/religion) is certainly a different thing altogether to conjuring tricks, and large scale practical jokes (such as what the late Jeremy Beadle used to pull off) which since the 70s/80s are increasingly interlinked but even these aren’t trivial and need a lot of preparation. I’m sure Beadle also did some conjuring tricks during the 70s/80s, perhaps on the obscure kids TV shows he would turn up on in that era.

    Even more so in todays climate where people are actively told to report anything “hidden/out of place” to real authorities lest it might be a IED, CBRN device or something similarly less pleasant than a SFX gadget intended for light entertainment.

    #1256758
    AvatarTank Girl
    Participant

    @Chrispydelic 490206 wrote:

    Magic was cool when I was young but now it’s just a great way to pick up chicks!

    Ahhh!! you need to be a magician just to get away with saying that sentence these days ๐Ÿ˜›

    #1256759
    AvatarTank Girl
    Participant

    I do have a HUGE cynic in me,

    but sometimes its just really nice to ‘make believe’

    and people like him are good sometimes to really think there is magic out there ๐Ÿ™‚

    #1256767
    AvatarChrispydelic
    Participant

    @Tank Girl 490300 wrote:

    I do have a HUGE cynic in me,

    but sometimes its just really nice to ‘make believe’

    and people like him are good sometimes to really think there is magic out there ๐Ÿ™‚

    I guess knowing a little magic myself (mainly close up illusions and conjuring) I can only see it from the performer’s side. It’s hard to not see the performance as an illusion and all of the fun comes from trying to work out how it was done rather than suspending my disbelief! I mean come on, that tan-line gag is SO blinking obvious! It’s EASY to perform illusions when you have stooges!

    #1256773
    AvatarMC G-Tek
    Participant

    @Chrispydelic 490350 wrote:

    I guess knowing a little magic myself (mainly close up illusions and conjuring) I can only see it from the performer’s side. It’s hard to not see the performance as an illusion and all of the fun comes from trying to work out how it was done rather than suspending my disbelief! I mean come on, that tan-line gag is SO blinking obvious! It’s EASY to perform illusions when you have stooges!

    Stop spoiling all my fun, lol.

    #1256774
    AvatarTIROTGWD
    Participant

    He reminds me of David Blain.

    #1256768
    AvatarChrispydelic
    Participant

    @MC G-Tek 490367 wrote:

    Stop spoiling all my fun, lol.

    Sorry, I’ll stop now! lol

    It’s good that people find it cool and mysterious otherwise it wouldn’t be worth learning to perform this stuff.

    Have fun watching it!

    #1256753
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
    Moderator

    @Chrispydelic 490350 wrote:

    I guess knowing a little magic myself (mainly close up illusions and conjuring) I can only see it from the performer’s side. It’s hard to not see the performance as an illusion and all of the fun comes from trying to work out how it was done rather than suspending my disbelief! I mean come on, that tan-line gag is SO blinking obvious! It’s EASY to perform illusions when you have stooges!

    strangely enough I was interested in this too, especially as a modern take on the old (and probably not very PC) stereotypes of Oriental chaps who did these kinds of magic tricks. In the 70s it was usually some old white guy dressed up in a caricature of a Chinese from about 1902 (in spite of it being already 80 years out of date stereotype) but I wondered if there could be a opening for a modern Asian wideboy type doing this. [1]

    But as I researched it more much of the act woudl be built upon deceiving people by a variety of means, and getting them to divulge personal info without knowing, not dissimilar to how the Police get people to confess to stuff and tabloid journalists getting info. its a thin like between light entertainment and outright deceipt and hard to know when to stop, hence why I decided it was too ethically questionable a career path to consider following. (that Pakistani dude from wolverhampton who worked for the papers and managed to persuade multiple dumb celebs he was a Arab sheikh did make me laugh though but I think even he got busted for some phone hacking or similar dodgu stuff).

    [1] there is, except you normally end up reading about them on metpol press releases rather than radio times ๐Ÿ˜‰

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