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  • #1053194
    thelog
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    http://www.facebook.com/events/111756088963006/118230394982242/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity

    So funny, the spot they are on about is sooo notorious with partys that there is no way you will gain access to the spot unless you either plot up there traveller style for a bit before hand or you have someone who works on the council on par with you to open the gate. Either way I hope they have a good time.

    They also seem to be trying to pull the old switcheroo with the inbox me your numbers for location details but I doub’t they will outwit the cops with that one. I attempted a facebook free party last week and they tried a simlar technique but officaly canceling the party and inboxing people with details. We arived half hour after it was ment t kick off and the cops were well mobilised. CCTV vans, 5 cop cars stoping any “younglings” traveling on the road. Taking delatils of cars parked up.

    Like I say best of luck to them there gonna need it.

    #1254409
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    what in blue blazes makes these kids think that farcebook is any more secure than any other form of electronic commmunication? if anything they are making it worse for themselves, creating a data trail of clear text and all nicely linked to their real name and timestamped (evidence).

    Whereas it isn’t quite as easy to monitor traffic on the fixed or mobile telephone network, not only is there more a expectation of privacy, the sort of boffins who can get the data to the cops in a form that plod can make use are very costly to get out of bed at random hours, and even the old ones are often more sympathetic to the ravers and see that sort of thing as an excessive privacy breach for a minor crime.

    in reality though all the cops do is add looking out for the rave to routine monitoring of traffic patterns they do anyway to discourage kids from bad driving and crashing their cars. There isn’t any crime until there is more than 20 people with sound equipment. Locals also look out for this and report to the cops – Airwave radios are normal telephones as well so the local old grass can speak direct to the cops at the frontline. England is small and easy to watch over.

    #1254416
    Moonie
    Participant

    It just links me to my own Events page?

    Furthermore, I can imagine exactly what’s on the page I can’t see, and my generation suck balls at all this 馃檨

    This are the same idiots that were walking around in “SAVE THE RAVE” T shirts when they were in fashion, having never actually been to one.

    #1254414
    Tank Girl
    Participant

    @Moonie 482497 wrote:

    It just links me to my own Events page?

    .

    snap

    #1254415
    DaftFader
    Participant

    same here …

    #1254410
    thelog
    Participant

    The guy has taken it down as he said he would, in hope to give the cops the slip.

    #1254411
    thelog
    Participant

    Well I got his text with the new directions 5 mins ago. He has changed the location to another town with another police force. But why give directions out this early. Its not like they know everyone they dished out the directions to. So I would expect the cops to be fully mobilsed on the area by the time they get there.

    Also its not an ideal location. Very close to a residential area.

    #1254419
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    How very interesting… link goes to a strange place on Facebook (for me).

    Appears I have some very heavy duty monitoring on me.

    So… I HAVE A CUNNING PLAN! 馃檪

    Can’t post it here but don’t worry folks, all will be well.

    #1254420
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    @Moonie 482497 wrote:

    It just links me to my own Events page?

    Furthermore, I can imagine exactly what’s on the page I can’t see, and my generation suck balls at all this 馃檨

    This are the same idiots that were walking around in “SAVE THE RAVE” T shirts when they were in fashion, having never actually been to one.

    Look mate, think random radio static. More activity for cops to trace and deal with, less resources they have to expand on any one single event. Everyone does their bit… you win some, you lose some.

    Facebook events are probably very carefully monitored… at the FB end. Bear in mind all the traffic gets routed through just one gateway and it’s pretty easy to screen out people’s activities just from their posts and friends lists.

    #1254412
    thelog
    Participant

    God damn it, not olny did their party go ahead it was complete chaos. Lots of fights and lots of kids. Here’s a quote form the owner adding a bit more evidence to his facebook page.

    Jake Power
    to be fair even tho we closed early ive just seen the vid and the rave was pumping , was a banger while it lasted! as soon as i can get it on to a pc ill uploaddd some serious skankout sesh .. to all the pricks tryna mug it fuck you . you set up a rave with thousands of pounds worth of equipment and see how you feel when beers spilled over your decks n people falling into your shit . to all the ravers who had it up thanks and sorry for shutting down , peace x

    What can I say really. personaly if people are gonna be doing partys like this its gonna make the cops be even less tollerant of our partys. I really want to stick my neck in and tell him the score and try and get him to be more discreet abouth things but I don’t think they will listen and probably give me a load of abuse. Heres some more quotes

    Lewis White You got it kicking mate welll done 馃檪
    14 hours ago 路 Like
    Paul Dj-asbo Healey Fucking well said mate…. Fucking jumped up little kids who can’t handle there drink….. Should do the next one abit more underground just like the london squat crews do mate
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 10
    Chelsay Leigh ParkinSmith The ones hatin were clearly the ones jus chillin on the path LOL, you did well I had a good night and I know loadsa other people did to 馃檪
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 2
    Lee Pinkney Well sed jake mate couldn’t make it but the feed back there always sun 1 who fucks it up pretty discustin that u gone out ya way n people wana fuck shit up n all ya want Ida gud nyt
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 2
    Rebecca Jane Sams I stuck up for it jake. I hope you saw that lol
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Chayce Beck Was a good night don’t worry about what the borelords said.!
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Dan Barnes i just baned her lol silly bitch been doing my nut in!
    14 hours ago 路 Like 路 1
    Jake Power lol cheers people x fuck it shes ginger
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 8
    Nicola May my mate never got the text, even after loads of chasing 馃檨 out of interest where was it held in the end?
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Charley Smith Parkin thankyous for a banging night!!!!
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Sam Chesson to be fair the youngens fuked it up but if they wernt there then it would of been pretty dead out. it was sick while it lasted tho!
    14 hours ago 路 Like 路 2
    Jake Power you mashed it up chesson & liam, kane , tremma . sickk!!
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 6
    Ryan Brighton Rock Garcia Yes jake how long for the video
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Lee Pinkney Oh I’m ginger n talkin sense lol
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Jake Power lol sorry lee !!! ryann vid probs be up tomo wanna edit and make it a proper vid first
    14 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 1
    Lisa Still well I am far too old to have come, as old as your mum and uncl, but I followed it all on facebook, don’t let the few trouble makers get the better of you, it was so well orchestrated, you need to keep these kind of events going, future generations of party go-ers are relying on you. I wish I could have been there. the summer isn’t over yet, it has just begun. home luck for the next one. maybe I might be there! x
    13 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 2
    Boo Leatham HOpe the next one aint a year away!
    13 hours ago 路 Like
    Luke Hamon Sounds like you gotta do a end of summer warm down !!! End of August/27th bank holiday
    13 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 3
    Samantha Goodfield I agree with Luke lol.. Do one again soon, but no little kids haha
    13 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Jake Power we will be !
    12 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like
    Angelo Wesley Salza Fuck em mate at least your trying to do something round here for people to do wish I’d have thought of it when I was your age nuff respect you need some sort of half descent security though really or it will happen everytime
    12 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 3
    Holly Horgan I thought it was sick and you need to do another one 馃檪
    11 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 1
    Jake Power safe ang
    41 minutes ago via Mobile 路 Like

    This one makes me laugh, he wan’t less kids at this one but he’s gonna use the same mailing list as last time. Also he want someone with private land. I’m guessing he doen’t know anything about TENS.

    Jake Power
    inbox me numbers for round 4 it will NOT be on book next time… all numbers youve already sent me are saved .. we havent decided where 4 is gonna be ibox me if you know of / own land in the area .

    Haahaha this ones funny, people saying it was a banging night when it finished at about 1. N00Bs

    Dan Barnes
    People bitchin! Shut it u rugrats it was sik!!! We wer saying all night peepz need 2 stop fighting!! Did warn ya…. We ain’t taking ur shit! U lot coursed it 2 stop!!!
    Like 路 路 Follow post 路 Yesterday at 09:21 near Newhaven
    20 people like this.
    Jack Son swear it ended at like 12
    Yesterday at 09:25 路 Like 路 3
    Tom DL happy days
    Yesterday at 09:35 路 Like 路 1
    Toby Hawkes where was it?
    Yesterday at 09:36 路 Like
    Donna Cooper Glad I didn’t go now what nobs ppl just can’t go out 2 have good tym have to fuk up everyones nite twats to whoever fuked it up!
    Yesterday at 09:49 via Mobile 路 Like 路 3
    Mikaela Garrigan Ahh man sad sum ppl get coked off tht face, cant handle it and ruin it 4 others. Note who not 2 invite next time boys x
    Yesterday at 10:31 路 Like 路 2
    Matt P Burton U guys did a great job! Annoys me that the teenies fucked it up at the end tho after all the effort u guys put in to make sure everyone had a gud night! Whens the nxt one? 馃檪 馃檪 馃檪 馃檪
    20 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 3
    Boo Leatham i had a geat night anyway thanks x
    18 hours ago 路 Like
    Samantha Goodfield I sat in bed ill well gutted I couldn’t go… But if it ended at like 12 fuck me I’m glad I didn’t drag my half dead body out of bed just for some teeniboppers just to ruin it!! When’s the next one?? I’m so on that lol and at least now you know who NOT to invite 馃檪 x
    18 hours ago via Mobile 路 Like 路 3

    At least this one person identified the problem

    Oscar Lynch
    lol if you wont less youth and less fights dont invite 2,700 people
    Like 路 路 Follow post 路 Yesterday at 09:26
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    Jack Son hahahah
    Yesterday at 09:27 路 Like 路 1
    Jack Son on facedog aswell
    Yesterday at 09:28 路 Like
    Oscar Lynch innit lol baitbook
    Yesterday at 09:37 路 Like 路 1

    Oh yeah finally this is a post I started on saturda afternoon when the text me the directions at like 6pm and said it was starting at 9pm. I wasn’t really that stunned at the reply

    David Logue
    Section 63
    Like 路 路 Unfollow post 路 Saturday at 19:57
    Kyel OM 鈥:L
    Saturday at 19:57 路 Like
    Sam Chesson section 63 is to do with extreme pornp :/
    Saturday at 20:16 路 Like
    David Logue 鈥(1) Section 63 (powers to remove persons attending or preparing for a rave) of the
    Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 (c. 33) is amended as follows.
    (2) In subsection (1) for 鈥渂y reason of its loudness and duration and the time at
    which it is played鈥 substitute 鈥渂y reason of its loudness or duration or the time
    at which it is played鈥.
    (3) After subsection (1A) insert鈥
    鈥(1B) A person commits an offence if he organises, either alone or with
    others, a gathering to which this section applies.
    (1C) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1B) is liable鈥
    (a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not
    exceeding 51 weeks or a fine not exceeding level 3 on the
    standard scale, or both;
    (b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not
    exceeding 51 weeks or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the
    standard scale, or both.
    (1D) A person commits an offence if he transports, by any means, sound
    equipment in preparation for a gathering to which this section applies.
    (1E) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1D) is liable鈥
    (a) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 2 on the
    standard scale;
    (b) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding level 4 on
    the standard scale.
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    Saturday at 20:23 路 Like
    Dan Brookes Yeah you get 3 strikes on that law! If you have enough mates to say they’ve set it all up the you can do these things for life lol!!!

    I’m not saying that kids shouldn’t be allowed to organise free partys but they should remember they aint the only sondsystem in brighton and we all get tarred with the same brush.

    PS how do I take an extra long sceen capture so I can get a whole page of comments in one pic cos these quotes are very messy.

    #1254421
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    @thelog 483134 wrote:

    I’m not saying that kids shouldn’t be allowed to organise free partys but they should remember they aint the only sondsystem in brighton and we all get tarred with the same brush.[/quote]

    OK, they will make mistakes, and some people learn the hard way (I’m one of them). Sometimes all you can do is give an opinion and a couple of options and let them find out for themselves. It’s an ego thing – rebellious youth will instinctively distrust older people. You have to prove you are on their side of the fence. Not at all easy, especially if there’s history of being ripped off by older/younger people from the opposite side.

    @thelog 483134 wrote:

    PS how do I take an extra long sceen capture so I can get a whole page of comments in one pic cos these quotes are very messy.

    Theoretical way (can’t test on current system because I don’t have admin privilages at Babylon locations);-

    1) Setup printer to print to file as a postscript file.

    2) “Print” the webpage (it will go to a big postscript file).

    3) Convert the file into a regular graphics format like PNG or JPG (PNGs are lossless, JPEGs can be lossy). GIMP can do this, publicly available open source (if rather slow).

    It will print many times oversampled to the postscript file so you shouldn’t lose any resolution (BUT you can’t copy and paste text off from a graphics file with current technology).

    #1254413
    thelog
    Participant

    Ahh nice one cheers pat

    #1254417
    Moonie
    Participant

    This is why I don’t see it as more radio static, there isn’t enough going on for it to work like that, what it does work like is that these stupid pricks start all these parties where things kick off and when the police turn up people are probably stupidly abusive to them, and the crews that have been quietly (sort of) running things for years suddenly get the same treatment.

    #1254422
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    Dude, it’s real life combat. Usually not be violent but it’s still confrontation at the very least.

    “To the victor, the spoils”.

    Learning stuff like electronic warfare, jamming, decoys, is all part of the game – deception, misdirection, divide and rule, conquest.

    I’m not saying you have to break the law in doing any of that – indeed, you don’t have to.

    But the cops are allowed to use coercion, misdirection, and downright lies. You want to be outwit them?

    THEN YOU GOT TO BE BETTER THAN THEM, AT THE SAME GAME.

    Viet Cong did OK. So have the Mujahideen. So did the Maoris. All suffered massive technological disadvantages in comparison to their opponents.

    “First, you must build the Moral Order” – Sun Tzu.

    #1254418
    Moonie
    Participant

    Yeah, the fact that the police where I am are (at the moment) actually quite nice about the whole thing aside, misdirection is not something we need, we have nothing to hide about the principles of free parties, why misdirect people? The problem with mass inviting people on FB is that you are going to get some complete pricks turn up and give the whole thing a bad name.

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