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    Sini
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      How’s the hand today Elretardo?

      #1218802
      Sini
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        How’s the hand today Elretardo?

        #1160914
        elretardo87
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          boothy wrote:
          ElRetardo I agree we shouldn’t go to the doctors for petty things, however the point I was referring to was this statement:
          “I don’t trust the bastards its a bit too close to religion for me”

          That sounds like a bit of a generalising attack on a group of people who mostly do a very good job.

          What I meant was I won’t let them do something to me without a bit of reserach. I mean as a kid I had fluid build up arround a tendon on my wrist, which is completely harmless so my doctor decided I should be injected with some mad chemical without telling me the side effects.

          Now (8 years alter) I get random bouts of extreme pain, spasm stylee contractions of the tendon, my hand sometimes freezes up and generally its fucked my use of my hand. It wasn’t until I went back to complain about these problems with my mum that the doctor explained that this was the price I had to pay to not have a fuckin tiny wee squidgy lump on the back of my wrist that I only got looked at as my mum thought it could be a tumour.

          So yeh enough of my ranting….what I meant was I don’t just let them do what they want to me without a bit of research. The whole religion thing was about the fact that people trust them blindly and wind up with new problems caused by the drugs they got to save them from the first problem.

          Sorry for the confusion.

          Sini wrote:
          How’s the hand today Elretardo?

          Seems fine….and I’m not dead yet. Cheers.

          #1218780
          elretardo87
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            boothy wrote:
            ElRetardo I agree we shouldn’t go to the doctors for petty things, however the point I was referring to was this statement:
            “I don’t trust the bastards its a bit too close to religion for me”

            That sounds like a bit of a generalising attack on a group of people who mostly do a very good job.

            What I meant was I won’t let them do something to me without a bit of reserach. I mean as a kid I had fluid build up arround a tendon on my wrist, which is completely harmless so my doctor decided I should be injected with some mad chemical without telling me the side effects.

            Now (8 years alter) I get random bouts of extreme pain, spasm stylee contractions of the tendon, my hand sometimes freezes up and generally its fucked my use of my hand. It wasn’t until I went back to complain about these problems with my mum that the doctor explained that this was the price I had to pay to not have a fuckin tiny wee squidgy lump on the back of my wrist that I only got looked at as my mum thought it could be a tumour.

            So yeh enough of my ranting….what I meant was I don’t just let them do what they want to me without a bit of research. The whole religion thing was about the fact that people trust them blindly and wind up with new problems caused by the drugs they got to save them from the first problem.

            Sorry for the confusion.

            Sini wrote:
            How’s the hand today Elretardo?

            Seems fine….and I’m not dead yet. Cheers.

            #1160921
            Tank Girl
            Participant

              I’m not against the NHS at all –
              but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holistically

              They decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
              hands still going numb and painful –
              but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
              I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
              They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..

              (I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)

              calm down a minute

              I went to a chiropractor independantly –

              and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
              and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
              but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..

              sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..

              #1218787
              Tank Girl
              Participant

                I’m not against the NHS at all –
                but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holistically

                They decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
                hands still going numb and painful –
                but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
                I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
                They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..

                (I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)

                calm down a minute

                I went to a chiropractor independantly –

                and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
                and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
                but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..

                sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..

                #1160916
                process
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                  my g/f’s grandad died while in hospital due to negligence on the part of the hospital, he contrated some nasty infection due to the squalid conditions he was left in, uncleaned dressings, shit in his bed etc. He was also left in a corridor for a day cause there was no ward free. Now i admit some do the best they can, but some are just slack or are incapable of doing the job, whether thats the persons fault or the systems i dont know. My g/f’s nan is now having to go to the ombordsman (sp?) to get compensation. She said herself she feels bad about claiming compensation as it is only going to take money away from the NHS when that is obviously what they need to try and sort out the problems they have. She just wants to get answers to how it got to that state and she also wants to try and make sure the problems are addressed so that it doesnt happen to anyone else in the future. So although i understand you El for not wanting to claim i think it is important that someone or part of the organisation is held responsible to insure that stuff like that doesnt happen in the future.

                  #1218782
                  process
                  Participant

                    my g/f’s grandad died while in hospital due to negligence on the part of the hospital, he contrated some nasty infection due to the squalid conditions he was left in, uncleaned dressings, shit in his bed etc. He was also left in a corridor for a day cause there was no ward free. Now i admit some do the best they can, but some are just slack or are incapable of doing the job, whether thats the persons fault or the systems i dont know. My g/f’s nan is now having to go to the ombordsman (sp?) to get compensation. She said herself she feels bad about claiming compensation as it is only going to take money away from the NHS when that is obviously what they need to try and sort out the problems they have. She just wants to get answers to how it got to that state and she also wants to try and make sure the problems are addressed so that it doesnt happen to anyone else in the future. So although i understand you El for not wanting to claim i think it is important that someone or part of the organisation is held responsible to insure that stuff like that doesnt happen in the future.

                    #1160927
                    spark
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                      Tank Girl wrote:
                      I’m not against the NHS at all –
                      but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holistically

                      They decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
                      hands still going numb and painful –
                      but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
                      I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
                      They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..

                      (I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)

                      calm down a minute

                      I went to a chiropractor independantly –

                      and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
                      and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
                      but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..

                      sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..

                      Have you ever tried acupuncture?I had a really bad back and shoulder… and at one point couldn’t even raise my arm above shoulder level.. had 3 months pysio.. nothing… had about 4 months of chiro and it would ease only right after treatment to be sore as hell again…

                      last ditch effort when the pain became unbearable a few months later was acupuncture as I am terrified of needles… cant even look at when i get a blood test…

                      OH MY GOD…. within a couple of treatments the pain had gone… I had mobility… I also had acupressure session at the same time.. The acupuncture was so relaxing I would usually fall asleep for the time they had to stay in… just could not help it… and a really really deep sleep also.. so much that could not drive immediately home I had to take a wee walk…

                      Acupuncture will now always be my first port of call if I need fixing up. Took i think it was 6 sessions and it was like I had never been in pain!!!!
                      :weee:

                      #1218793
                      spark
                      Participant
                        Tank Girl wrote:
                        I’m not against the NHS at all –
                        but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holistically

                        They decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
                        hands still going numb and painful –
                        but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
                        I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
                        They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..

                        (I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)

                        calm down a minute

                        I went to a chiropractor independantly –

                        and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
                        and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
                        but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..

                        sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..

                        Have you ever tried acupuncture?I had a really bad back and shoulder… and at one point couldn’t even raise my arm above shoulder level.. had 3 months pysio.. nothing… had about 4 months of chiro and it would ease only right after treatment to be sore as hell again…

                        last ditch effort when the pain became unbearable a few months later was acupuncture as I am terrified of needles… cant even look at when i get a blood test…

                        OH MY GOD…. within a couple of treatments the pain had gone… I had mobility… I also had acupressure session at the same time.. The acupuncture was so relaxing I would usually fall asleep for the time they had to stay in… just could not help it… and a really really deep sleep also.. so much that could not drive immediately home I had to take a wee walk…

                        Acupuncture will now always be my first port of call if I need fixing up. Took i think it was 6 sessions and it was like I had never been in pain!!!!
                        :weee:

                        #1160922
                        Tank Girl
                        Participant
                          spark wrote:
                          Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]

                          yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
                          (I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
                          but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitive

                          #1218788
                          Tank Girl
                          Participant
                            spark wrote:
                            Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]

                            yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
                            (I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
                            but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitive

                            #1160928
                            spark
                            Participant
                              Tank Girl wrote:
                              spark wrote:
                              Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]

                              yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
                              (I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
                              but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitive

                              Wow…. I dont need to convert you then!!! hehe…
                              (But i seriously do think acupunture is tops!)

                              Good luck with the hands!!!:bounce_fl

                              #1218794
                              spark
                              Participant
                                Tank Girl wrote:
                                spark wrote:
                                Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]

                                yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
                                (I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
                                but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitive

                                Wow…. I dont need to convert you then!!! hehe…
                                (But i seriously do think acupunture is tops!)

                                Good luck with the hands!!!:bounce_fl

                                #1160932
                                Digital-A
                                Participant

                                  when the co2 tanks at work burst their safety disks and go all over your hands it hurts …

                                  as for doctors … meah … prescribe prescribe prescribe ….

                                  #1218798
                                  Digital-A
                                  Participant

                                    when the co2 tanks at work burst their safety disks and go all over your hands it hurts …

                                    as for doctors … meah … prescribe prescribe prescribe ….

                                    #1160930
                                    starlaugh
                                    Participant

                                      I did this when hammered and trying to fill balloons with the little cream chargers, the whipper emptied but it didn’t go into the dispenser. So when i unscrewed it the gas released into the palm of my hand, it froze 2 fingers and a bit of my hand….. that fecking hurt!

                                      Hope all is good mate

                                      #1218796
                                      starlaugh
                                      Participant

                                        I did this when hammered and trying to fill balloons with the little cream chargers, the whipper emptied but it didn’t go into the dispenser. So when i unscrewed it the gas released into the palm of my hand, it froze 2 fingers and a bit of my hand….. that fecking hurt!

                                        Hope all is good mate

                                        #1160915
                                        Tek Offensive
                                        Participant

                                          yeah them things can sting, used to have fun spraying my mate when he worked with me.

                                          must have been a pretty concentrated spray to do damage though. or alot of it. it usually just freezes then dissapears.

                                          #1218781
                                          Tek Offensive
                                          Participant

                                            yeah them things can sting, used to have fun spraying my mate when he worked with me.

                                            must have been a pretty concentrated spray to do damage though. or alot of it. it usually just freezes then dissapears.

                                            #1160919
                                            Raj
                                            Participant

                                              There are various things you can do to improve the healing on your burn El – the aloe vera leaves rubbed on directly would help you out [if the plants survived], lavender oil applied to the area [will reduce scarring /promote healing] or for the zero additives approach put the palm of the other hand over the afffected area and keep it there for 5- 10 mins 2 times a day [the area should get hot when you do this]

                                              I have to say I wont take antibiotics for choice either and echinacea tincture is a good way of avoiding them for me if you havent tried that yet 😉

                                              #1218785
                                              Raj
                                              Participant

                                                There are various things you can do to improve the healing on your burn El – the aloe vera leaves rubbed on directly would help you out [if the plants survived], lavender oil applied to the area [will reduce scarring /promote healing] or for the zero additives approach put the palm of the other hand over the afffected area and keep it there for 5- 10 mins 2 times a day [the area should get hot when you do this]

                                                I have to say I wont take antibiotics for choice either and echinacea tincture is a good way of avoiding them for me if you havent tried that yet 😉

                                                #1160925
                                                MisterDuck
                                                Participant
                                                  djprocess wrote:
                                                  whether thats the persons fault or the systems

                                                  the systems. the administration of the nhs is fucking diabolical. it’s not the nurses and doctors on the wards that are the problem. it’s cash-strapped and stretched to the max, yet the public complain when it’s given more money. government targets fuck things up too. i don’t know what the solution is, tbh. i don’t really understand the proposed privatisation.

                                                  #1218791
                                                  MisterDuck
                                                  Participant
                                                    djprocess wrote:
                                                    whether thats the persons fault or the systems

                                                    the systems. the administration of the nhs is fucking diabolical. it’s not the nurses and doctors on the wards that are the problem. it’s cash-strapped and stretched to the max, yet the public complain when it’s given more money. government targets fuck things up too. i don’t know what the solution is, tbh. i don’t really understand the proposed privatisation.

                                                    #1160909
                                                    Anonymous

                                                      when i caught fire the burns unit i went to was feckin a! though the hospital was part funded by the mod…

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