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    NuamiTu18
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      A RAVERS MANIFESTO.


      Our emotional state is ecstasy.
      Our nourishment of choice is love.
      Our addiction of choice is technology.
      Our religion of choice is music.
      Our currency of choice is knowledge.
      Our politics of choice is none.
      Our society of choice is utopian.

      You may hate us.
      You may dismiss us.
      You may misunderstand us.
      You may be unaware that we exist.
      We can only hope you do not care to judge us because we would never judge you.

      We are no criminals.
      We are not disillusioned.
      We are NOT drug addicts.
      We are not naïve children.
      We are one massive, global, tribal village that transcends man-made law, physical geography, and time itself.
      We are The Massive: One Massive.

      We were first drawn by the sound. From far away the thunderous, muffled, echoing beat was comparable to a mothers heart soothing a child in her womb of concrete, steel, and electrical wiring.
      We were drawn back into this womb, and there, in the heat, dampness, and darkness of it, we came to accept that we are all the same.
      We came to accept that we are all equal.
      Not only to the darkness, and to ourselves, but to the very music slamming into us and passing through our souls: and somewhere around 35Hz, we could feel the hand of God at our backs pushing us forward, pushing us to push ourselves to strengthen our minds, bodies, and spirits.
      Pushing us to turn to the person beside us to join hands and uplift them by sharing the uncontrollable joy we felt from creating this magical bubble that can, for one evening, protect us from the horrors, atrocities and pollution of the outside world.
      It is in that very instant with these very realizations that each of us is truly born.
      We continue to pack ourselves into clubs, warehouses, or buildings youve abandoned and left for naught, and we bring life to them for one night; strong, throbbing, vibrant life in its purest, most intense, most hedonistic form.
      In these makeshift soaves, we seek to shed ourselves of the burden of uncertainty for a future you have been unable to stabilize and secure for us. We seek to relinquish our inhibitions and free ourselves from the shackles and restraints that youve put on us for your own peace of mind.

      We seek to re-write the programming that you have tried to indoctrinate us with since the moment we were born. Programming telling us to hate, that tells us to judge, that tells us to stuff ourselves with the nearest most convinant pigeonhole possible.
      Programming that even tells us to climb the ladders, jump through the hoops, and run through the mazes for you.
      Programming that tells us to eat from the silver spoon that you are trying to feed us with, instead of nourishing ourselves with our own capable hands.
      Programming that tells us to close our minds, instead of opening them!

      Until the sun raises to burn our eyes by revealing the distorted reality of the world youve created for us, we dance fiercely with our brothers and sisters in celebration of our life, of our culture, and of the values we believe in:
      Peace,
      Love,
      Freedom,
      Tolerance,
      Unity,
      Harmony,
      Expression,
      Responsibility,
      and Respect.

      Our Enemy of choice is ignorance.
      Our weapon of choice is information.
      Our crime of choice is breaking and challenging whatever laws you feel you need to put in our place to stop us from celebrating our existence.

      But know that while you may shut down any given party, on any given night, in ant given city, in and given country or continent on this beautiful planet, you can never shut down the entire party. You dont have access to that switch no matter what you think.

      The Music will never stop
      The Heartbeat will never fade
      The Party will never end.

      I am a Raver, and this is my Manifesto.

      (side note: whoever wrote this piece from whatever website i got it off of, got MY attention) :horay: I say let the strobe lights keep strobin, let the glowsticks fly, and let the X flow through our veins!

      #1073324
      CT23
      Participant
        THats so ferkin Gay

        if we want a utopian society we are gonna have to get dirty

        That sort of fantasy writing is just wack . .

        I think ive seen it b4 tho

        Nice but people are dead out in Iraq and stuff

        #1073312
        globalloon
        Participant
          CT23 wrote:
          THats so ferkin Gay

          it’s just a piece of writing

          don’t show yourself up

          #1073303
          General Lighting
          Moderator

            TBH its something the Americans wrote about 10 years ago and I have seen it a number of times.

            OTOH its way better people circulate and maybe even believe stuff like that than actually sign up to go and kill people in Iraq, or create a situtation in a country where no one feels safe without a gun, a diverse population hate each other and live in segregated communities, and the authorities claim “freedom” and monitor everyone covertly in case they may be “trrrsts”

            #1073319
            Jon_tooth
            Participant

              A better question would be who hasn’t read it.

              It’s the most over-posted piece of American bullshit on the web.

              Someone posts it up at least once a month.

              #1073317
              raverbaby
              Participant

                Jon_toothA better question would be who hasn’t read it.

                It’s the most over-posted piece of American bullshit on the web.

                Someone posts it up at least once a month.

                Cut him a break guys he just trying to put a message across its not his fault if you have seen it before is it!

                #1073320
                Jon_tooth
                Participant
                  raverbaby wrote:
                  Cut him a break guys he just trying to put a message across its not his fault if you have seen it before is it!

                  Yeah, but it’s cheesy as fuck.

                  #1073321
                  Jon_tooth
                  Participant
                    the1log wrote:
                    Yes I’d like to see your own manifesto’s before your critisism.

                    My manifesto is to not cut and paste trite bullshit all over the web.

                    #1073309
                    BioTech
                    Participant

                      I know it’s not realistic and it oozes with cheese but I’ve always liked it.

                      #1073322
                      Jon_tooth
                      Participant
                        BioTech wrote:
                        I know it’s not realistic and it oozes with cheese but I’ve always liked it.

                        Go and sit in the corner with the hippies.

                        #1073310
                        BioTech
                        Participant

                          Only if i can make dreamcatchers.

                          #1073329
                          kaito
                          Participant

                            It might be a tad cheesy and idealistic, and not take into account the realisties of life we ahve to live by, BUT its still a message worth getting out there – as if it makes one person stop and think and make a positive change in their life then it improoves society as a whole a little bit – the only way the world will ever get any any better is if people who believe actually make the effort to spread the vibe – if we stop doing that then we’re basically accepting the world is a lost cause (which it may be, but I certainly don’t wanna think that way – would depress me wheras this make sme happy!)

                            #1073315
                            K_trina
                            Participant

                              I’ve seen that thing soo many times. So in answer to your question, I have! 😛

                              #1073323
                              Jon_tooth
                              Participant
                                BioTech wrote:
                                Only if i can make dreamcatchers.

                                Only if you make enough for everybody.

                                #1073327
                                UTCC
                                Participant
                                  Quote:
                                  Taken from “Enuff’s Enuff!” Advance Party Newsletter Issue 3 November 1994

                                  To ADVANCE PARTY PEOPLE by TRAUMA of OOOPS!

                                  Sound SYSTEM.

                                  Many of these rules exist already in unspoken form. The purpose of outlining them on paper is to inform everyone of there existence, a code of conduct if you like. We all know we don’t need the Authorities or silly bits of paper to party, but they still refuse to believe that we are responsible. This is the one of the steps to correct their view, to show them that we do have rules and guidelines and respect for the environment in a way which they may understand a set on principles in black and white.

                                  ON PARTYING

                                  1.RUBBISH

                                  Put up simple signs informing party goers to remove rubbish as they leave and put it into bags. It is the sound system’s responsibility to leave an area clean if not cleaner than when the party started. To the system crews; it is your job to educate your punters. We must show the standard we have.

                                  2.VANDALISM, TROUBLE MAKERS etc.

                                  Some things that vandals do and which have gone on are now no longer excusable. It seems that certain people or groups of people are continually doing these things. It is up to everyone to deal with these individuals. Get as many people as possible to politely say Pack it in, it’s not wanted.Try to make them feel small, and educate them. A small group of people, be it punters or organisers makes it quite clear that if trouble is not stopped, the individuals will be asked to leave and barred from future events. Organisers must co-ordinate with each other within the regions to stop these people gaining access to future events. Our events have always been free and open to everyone but these people are ruining it for all of us. Something must be done. When dealing with trouble makers go in a small number, 3 or 4, NOT for the purpose of being mob handed but to show unity.

                                  3.REMOVAL OF OFFENDERS

                                  We don’t like violence but if certain individuals still chose to be arseholes they must be removed. The best non-violent way I know is for 4 or 5 people to surround the person by standing round so the cannot lash out and all fast-shuffle off to the nearest exit. MAKE it clear why this action is being taken. STOP THE MUSIC – This way you have the full attention of everyone. Inform the punters that the music is not going back on until the individual or individuals are out. The people are there to party and will usually do the best for you once they realise what the problem us.

                                  4.PARKING

                                  Vehicles must be kept off the road or if in an urban area someone from the sound system must make sure the road is kept clear. Tell people why we must do this. Once a few people start doing this the rest will follow. Blocked roads tell the police two things: It tells them something is going on, It gives them a valid reason for attempting to stop the party. Their reason: The emergency services need access

                                  DO NOT LET THEM HAVE THIS EASY REASON AGAINST YOUR CREW!

                                  5.DEALING WITH POLICE / AUTHORITIES

                                  This lovely tasks falls to the sound system or organisers (because the police target them). Therefore have ONE person to deal with any police that turn up. This person should know the laws that the police claim they are there to enforce, and the various blags they try to use. This person should also be able to speak to a lawyer or solicitor by mobile phone to obtain legal advice when police are present (most useful to avoid arrests) and give more bargaining power. Remember: Mobiles are listened into by the police, and are taped at the exchange. Steps must be taken to avoid conflict, with ourselves / well meaning punters telling the police where to go and where to put it when they get there. Conduct negotiations away from the main body of people. Alternatively, conduct negotiations in front of the microphone for the whole crowd. The negotiator must be able to communicate to the system about what is going on. Someone must have the one and only say about noise levels and termination of sound. (Control of the volume knob) it is important to realise that The Authorities force power from the system and party to one individual, which is unpleasant. If the rig has to be shut down then this person can switch it back on, if the authorities permit. If the party is shut down inform the punters why and ask them to leave quietly and with respect to the people around (Police, Landowners). Meanwhile the negotiator is the only point of contact for any authorities turning up. Remember: Police will use your internal communication to stiff you. Be careful and keep safe. THE ADVANCE PARTY IS TO HAVE A LIST OF LEGAL OBSERVERS PREPARED TO MONITOR THE POLICE FOR LARGER FESTIVALS AND EVENTS. IN YOUR LOCAL AREA APPROACH FRIENDLY SOLICITORS. Remember: Police use plant lawyers to stiff you. Be careful and be safe.

                                  6.HEALTH AND SAFETY Sound systems must have FULL first aid kits on hand together with the number of local casualty department Hospital and route map of how to get there. One car must be ready with driver to make the journey if needed. One person should be trained in first aid. A free supply of water should be made available wherever possible. Fire extinguishers should be placed near equipment and system people should know where they are and how to use them. Clear broken glass, debris etc. away to avoid accidents. Educate people where to go i.e. toilets, shovels, longdrops etc. keep all entrances clear of people equipment etc. All wires should be trailed above head height where possible, and all gangways kept clear with exits free. Authorities will be informed of these measures if they turn up. All back-drops, netting and tarps etc. must be fireguarded. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE. UNFORTUNATLY WE MUST SHOW THAT WE ARE.

                                  Party principles at parties in the community on the streets.

                                  1. We believe that it is the responsibility of each of us to look after ourselves. We believe it is the responsibility of each one of us to look after oneself before anyone can claim to be looking after anyone else.

                                  2. The freedom of each of us to do as we like can interfere with the freedom of those around us. Since consideration of others within total personal freedom cannot be enforced, consideration for others is now expected from each one of us, and from us all.

                                  3. We will act on the following:

                                  – Private interests who deny access to the countryside and who build on it.
                                  – Private criminal elites organising the sale of drugs at community events.
                                  – Private careerists who hijack the movement or any of its banners or principles.
                                  – Private landlords who allow city buildings to stand empty and unused.
                                  – We undertake to use free and squatted space efficiently and to keep an orderly house.
                                  – We undertake to discourage new communities from becoming overcrowded, or to allow them to be used as police warehousing.

                                  4. We know the following must happen so we can continue to do what we do in freedom and fairness. We are prepared to confront hard problems with real, direct and non-violent solutions

                                  Therefore we will:

                                  – Ensure the following considerations are planned for on site and acted on at all our social gatherings.
                                  – Safe convoys to and from pitches.

                                  some of that is relevent

                                  #1073304
                                  General Lighting
                                  Moderator

                                    yeah some of the info still holds true today but that Advance party flyer is ancient as well

                                    I know because I was one of the people in Advance party and the person who did the original design for that.. it was on Wordperfect 5.1 … I used to have the disc of this text at my old house in Reading until recently..

                                    DJ Trauma gave up partying years ago to look after his step-children and run a go-karting track.

                                    Advance party folded about a year later due to crew politics and arguments over cash… got the impression as well a lot of people didn’t want Debby running things because she was too “idealistic” and they would rather do it gangsta style (and look at Londonistans rave scene now!)

                                    The stuff about avoiding vandalism/contamination is still spot on but few people actually gave a fuck until crews were getting nicked because of it -that was only a few years ago…

                                    and if you try to play the hippy activist nowadays the cops will just record all your statements on video and bust you for PEL.

                                    #1073326
                                    LadyProdigy
                                    Participant

                                      *drowns in the cut and paste bullshit….and then vomits from cheese overload.

                                      #1073325
                                      CT23
                                      Participant
                                        LOL
                                        #1073328
                                        UTCC
                                        Participant
                                          General Lighting wrote:
                                          yeah some of the info still holds true today but that Advance party flyer is ancient as well

                                          I know because I was one of the people in Advance party and the person who did the original design for that.. it was on Wordperfect 5.1 … I used to have the disc of this text at my old house in Reading until recently..

                                          DJ Trauma gave up partying years ago to look after his step-children and run a go-karting track.

                                          Advance party folded about a year later due to crew politics and arguments over cash… got the impression as well a lot of people didn’t want Debby running things because she was too “idealistic” and they would rather do it gangsta style (and look at Londonistans rave scene now!)

                                          The stuff about avoiding vandalism/contamination is still spot on but few people actually gave a fuck until crews were getting nicked because of it -that was only a few years ago…

                                          and if you try to play the hippy activist nowadays the cops will just record all your statements on video and bust you for PEL.

                                          it was a history lesson
                                          m8
                                          who that anyway??

                                          #1073330
                                          kaito
                                          Participant
                                            General Lighting wrote:
                                            yeah some of the info still holds true today but that Advance party flyer is ancient as well

                                            I know because I was one of the people in Advance party and the person who did the original design for that.. it was on Wordperfect 5.1 … I used to have the disc of this text at my old house in Reading until recently..

                                            DJ Trauma gave up partying years ago to look after his step-children and run a go-karting track.

                                            Advance party folded about a year later due to crew politics and arguments over cash… got the impression as well a lot of people didn’t want Debby running things because she was too “idealistic” and they would rather do it gangsta style (and look at Londonistans rave scene now!)

                                            The stuff about avoiding vandalism/contamination is still spot on but few people actually gave a fuck until crews were getting nicked because of it -that was only a few years ago…

                                            and if you try to play the hippy activist nowadays the cops will just record all your statements on video and bust you for PEL.

                                            First of all, respect for the whole Advance Party thing. I was gonna say that I did think that it had died and ask if it was still going, btu you’ve answered that question.

                                            However, what I would like to say is that I am very interested in what your saying there. Studied politics, history and economics at A-Level, and my interest in these subjects has been rekindled in last few years while going out on the free party scene as it has more of a political edge than the club scene I grew up in.

                                            To get to my point, I have recently started to think that instead of just talking about my opinions on issues and complaining that their is noone representing what I believe, I have made a decision that i want to stand as an MP one day in the future as an Independent candidate to try and do just that – give a voice in Parliament. I don’t think for one moment under the current system of first past the post I’d stand a chance of anyone noticing, but through the power of the net if a PR system is ever introduced I would actually do this and see how far I could get using the net as a media to get the message out there.

                                            To be honest, I would be just as interested to do this as an experiment into the power of the net as a media and the extent to which a disenfranchised youth vote could be harnessed through it as a belief that anything could be achieved, but the nature of the net is that your message is at a national level rather than a constituency one, so until someone does introduce PR it would seem a fruitless task.

                                            When I started reading the thread and the Advance Party was mentioned it did cross my mind that if it was still going then it would be something I would be interested in getting involved in, but as I read on realised that, as I had been led to believe, it no longer exists.

                                            So to get to my question, I’d be interested in hearing your opinions on what I’m talking about mate, and any advice you could offer based on your experience’s involved with the Advance Party.

                                            #1073333
                                            FrankieButler
                                            Participant

                                              biggest load of toss ive ever read

                                              #1073305
                                              General Lighting
                                              Moderator
                                                kaito wrote:
                                                So to get to my question, I’d be interested in hearing your opinions on what I’m talking about mate, and any advice you could offer based on your experience’s involved with the Advance Party.

                                                it was never a political party in the conventional sense! It was just a bunch of rave organisers trying to raise awareness of the then new anti-rave legislation and to encourage reasonable behaviour at raves. To this end it partly succeeded.

                                                People have tried the “political party” route before, everyone from a militant libertarian wing of the Young Conservatives(!) to Altern8.

                                                Ravers aren’t exactly oppressed minorities either, they are just people who want to enjoy themselves without paying admittedly over-inflated prices to use land and going through bureaucratic licensing procedures.

                                                There is the obvious counter-argument that there is already a free market solution for raves on the commercial club/festival scene; and that a proportion of ravers end up in self-destructive lifestyles due to excessive drug use.

                                                TBH most ravers see raves as a bit of hedonism which they will eventually grow out of. Whether they do so or not is another matter 😉

                                                #1073331
                                                kaito
                                                Participant

                                                  Yeah, I understand all that mate and to be honest what I’m talking about is far wider reaching than just looking at the free party and underground music scene and issues concerning that – I have pretty strong views on a lot of issues and know there to be a lot of people with similar ideas who at the moment feel separated from, and unheard of within, the current political status quo – it just so happens that a lot of those people tend to gravitate towards the freedom (and intelligent conversation) that can be found within the free party community.


                                                  To be honest though as much as anything I’d view doing this as a personal experiment into the power of the web as a media, as much as to actually stand as a an MP. My main aim would not be to win a seat – though if I did I’d be only too happy to say what I think in Parliament – but instead to actually get enough votes to act as a pressure group and show the powers that be that there is a large (and growing) section of society that is being completely ignored at present within mainstream politics, despite all their attempts to appear ‘cool’ and ‘green’.


                                                  Backing all this up is my belief that as the internet grows it provides an opportunity for individuals to actually get alternative messages out to a wider audience than ever before, and this has the potential to actually change the political landscape in that sense – I’m not saying anything as grandiose as that will ever be achieved by me, but the fact that I see that opportunity means that it is an idea that I will want to seriously explore one day.


                                                  Thanks for the reply though mate, some food for thought within that. Have to ask, where Altern8 come into it though? Intrigued by that!

                                                  #1073313
                                                  globalloon
                                                  Participant
                                                    FrankieButler wrote:
                                                    biggest load of toss ive ever read

                                                    back at you

                                                    #1073314
                                                    globalloon
                                                    Participant

                                                      Kaito

                                                      i’m thinking of standing in the next local election as an independant, for similar reasons… 15% of people turned out at the recent local election and talking to neighbours it’s because many of them don’t feel any of the parties are honest or represent them

                                                      it’s pretty hard to be representative of everybody, but I reckon I could earn some trust

                                                      I don’t have any illusions that as a single voice I could change much, but I’d like the opportunity to shake things up a bit

                                                      and with Exeter becoming a unitary authority in the next 3 years, perhaps now is the timeto start making those noises

                                                      watch this space :bigsmile:

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