dont really care, but theres a difference between working legally and ILLegally, and thats why im asking why he cant work in his country legally

You should ask the BNP,they would have many answers for you…

I’ll respect your freedom of speech,but I find the road you’re going by is muddy…especially when I read things like:

I’ve heard too much of this shit not to react…so please,stop this bullshit!!!

you can easily forgot what I say,as I’m just a foreigner,my opinion doesn’t really count…but please ,be careful with the words you use…

The law isnt BNP its the givernment its the law doing something that is illegal is against the law, weather u think its right or wrong, the fact is working illegally is ILLegal

I think the problem here is that the law is very confusing and Britain seems to only accept the aspects of the EU that don’t help it make money with very bad grace.

CZ has only been in the EU for a few years and Smis may not know that you can work legally here – a lot of British bosses have been exploiting illegal workers to drive down wages and increase their profits, which is in itself illegal but has been to an extent ignored by the government.

Another anomaly is that 665 (in France) and Angel (in Denmark) can come here straight away and get a job without any extra hassles.

But Smis has to register after a month with the Home Office (Interior Ministry) to work here legally (and pay £90 to do so), because he comes from a “new EU country”.

People in the new countries had to change a lot in their countries to join the EU and were promised all sorts of things in joining, but now they find they are still treated as “second class citizens” compared to the other EU nations because they are “poorer”.

Incidentally the year CZ joined the EU was the year the Czechtek got very violently busted up by their police….

if it is an open competition for jobs and they have suitable qualifications, competentices and experience (or they show they want the job more by being prepared to do overtime ) and you have less of these qualities – the answer is yes, its what competition in the market is all about.

I have had to leave my home of 20 years in Reading and move to another region as lots of IT jobs have gone to overseas companies or highly qualfied graduates from other nations, but I don’t complain about it as it was my choice to drop out of uni in 1992 and spend lots of time partying instead of studying, or working harder to climb the career ladder.

OTOH If the job is not legal the company shouldn’t be in business at all, the authorities should take action against it.

Where I work a CV has just come in from some Polish girl.

She is only in her 20s and already has experience ranging from office work as a PA to the caring professions, as well as factory work. She even has a college diploma of some sort. The CV is written in very good English, a couple of mistakes maybe but its as good as any of those we have received from English people.

In our company good spoken English and a willingness to improve and learn about British culture and traditions is vital, but if she shows these qualities and her background checks are good she will be a very strong candidate.

She is certainly more likely to be favoured over a girl who was born in England but who dropped out of high school, can’t work a computer and whose CRB comes back with form for shoplifting….

then only answer I could give is:

Partying illegaly is Illegal…

:groucho:

I don’t see the point…If it’s a legal job,they are many chances that an immigrant would work for less money you’d ever accept…I worked hard and many years in picking up fruits in France,and as far as I know,there’s enough work for everyone…and to go further,if there was no immigrants,there would be almost no fruits at your next grocery…

Employer is our real ennemy,not your fellow worker

:add some red stars here:

PP if you think immigration is one way, you should visit Prague. The whole of the old city centre is populated by Brits and Americans, to the point where no Czech people can afford to live in the centre of their own capital city any more. :crazy:

There is a similar situation in many of the ‘new 10’ EU states (and even some parts of France, Spain and Portugal)

crazy about the guerilla warfare for wine

glo thats a bit of an exaggeration, ive been there, and the uk and americans are all tourists bringing in cash. i do get ur point about there being little work, but its more that they are underpaid so they come to the uk looking for better life(whitch i dont have a problem at all) as i said this whole thread leads back to my original question

you must have taken a different impression to my Czech friends who have found themselves forced out by people coming in to teach English (for example) and American friends who have moved there for up to 12 months at a time, to live without working, because it’s comparatively cheap while they work on projects such as music production

what is comparatively cheap to an English person, is out of reach to a Czech person. It is that simple

from your personal point of view, I understand why you would like there to be a protectionist labour market. but try looking at it from an employer’s or a business point of view. who would you want to employ? the person with more skills and experience I think.