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January 16, 2007 at 11:06 pm #1040301
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just before i was demoted, dr bunsen asked me why it seemed like i didnt relate to teh site any more. this is what i said:
hi bunsen its not that i dont relate to teh site anymore, i just feel frustrated, as im not sure what the point is any more. intially we were talking about raves, and i came on here to chat to people in teh scene. then the police got wise and no-one wanted to talkabout that. fair enough, so we went on to informing people about teh scene in a detatched way which didnt neccessarily implicate us in actual illegal activity. i still see that as the main point of partyvibe, to basically be a “rough guide” to raves with some banter thrown in.
ive got nothing against banter, but when people who have no idea about raves at all come on here just to try and pull (do you remember “devang” teh indian dude?) i explain what we are about and send em off in teh direction of faceparty or myspak, or one of teh trillions of generic forums out there. my problem with partyvibe is i feel it has become so distanced from teh real rave scene it is almost pointless. teh real ravers arent gonna come on here to find out anythig, cos its so square and moderated (some of teh stuff ive seen flagged as innappropriate is ludicrous, liek bored security guards throwing their weight around- its not the end of teh world if someoen is a bit offended, and i dont think its our job as mods to stop that unless its properly harsh, which is nearly never is).
its a dilluted version of itself, and while im racking my brains to work out why i cant just redress teh balance a bit, i know that really its our freedom of speech that has been erroded so severly in the last 5 years and the crackdowns on parties which have meant that the dynamism of early partyvibe has been replaced by uslot, who lets face it arent putting on teh most raves, mainly sitting about with the kids reading tomas teh tank, preaching to teh new wave of ravers coming up, who just see partyvibe as full of moaning oldies, and you can see their point!
not only that but this use of teh staffroom to discuss teh darker side of partying (and then not even disclose it on the main board, like the no-mods couldnt take the news) is just elitist and condescending and counter productive. unless we truly represent freepartys as a whole movement, warts and all, we will obselete. im sure theres a few other points, but thats a good startign point. i think i’ll put it up for discussion in the staff room.
January 16, 2007 at 11:37 pm #1098053LO mate
what’s in your sandwich? :groucho:
aaaanyway
i’m not full time raving anymore. when i was it made me ill. colds and depression and that. saying that nothing will stop me from throwing a party in an out of the way location for those in the know when i have the time and energy
life can’t just be about one thing and i think as the site has grown it’s absorbed wider interests from people who also hapen to be enthusistic about parties and dance music
the radio, mp3s, gallery etc are all well used
and the forum is just a good place to bring up whatever strikes you as worthy of comment
January 16, 2007 at 11:38 pm #1098051Don’t know what everyone else thinks but this could be worth discussing.
The only thing I would point out about your thoughts though (and I’ve told you this already) is that anything discussed in private between the people that help out here is usually because it is information that should not be discussed in public. The same way that a lot of people would talk about stuff via PM’s because the info could be traced back to people and rigs.
Not because other people ‘can’t handle it’ as you’ve suggested.
January 16, 2007 at 11:44 pm #1098052globalloon wrote:life can’t just be about one thing and i think as the site has grown it’s absorbed wider interests from people who also hapen to be enthusistic about parties and dance musicthe radio, mp3s, gallery etc are all well used
and the forum is just a good place to bring up whatever strikes you as worthy of comment
Sums it up quite nicely I reckon. When I first came on here years ago I never expected it to be full on 100% free parties anyway.
I always knew it was a broader thing than that, but the whole seemed based around free parties and the people that have come from them and the people who are interested in seeing what they are about.
You are suggesting it should only be for free party people. That’s a bit elitist/exclusive isn’t it? 😉
January 16, 2007 at 11:50 pm #1098054I came to PV via SJ, which was not for me
I initially came having been to an illegal in the summer and got ‘fired up again’,
having been a partyhead in the early to mid 90’s – I had ‘settled down’, and began to stick to alcohol.
So initially I came for party info – and to meet (socially / friends) others
What I found to my surprise was a well established friendly and welcoming online community.
Having beena novice to this sort of thing I hung around and decided to ‘post’ and ‘chat’ and have found likeminded individuals, who post about a range of things – from culture / politics / environment / sharing past experiences / likes dislikes in music / support and some general ‘sillyness’.
I don’t know what PV used to represent when it was established but from your post I guess some changes were inevitable with police snooping etc.
I’m sorry you no longer feel its what you wanted it to represent, and that some of us have diluted it for you – but that happens IMO in nearly every ‘scene’
January 17, 2007 at 12:54 am #1098050Tank Girl wrote:I don’t know what PV used to represent when it was establishedthis was part of the original partyvibe before the forum took off (many people didn’t have broadband until 2001) – contributions were emailed.
http://www.partyvibe.com/freeparties/past.html
Look at the detail in these (rig names, friends and DJ’s getting namechecked etc) – a bit more difficult to do that today when people are getting ASBOs etc and stuff like this can count as at least “soft intelligence”.
Quote:but from your post I guess some changes were inevitable with police snooping etc.I just had a look through a lot of really old posts out of curiosity and TBH the only real difference is that you could get away with putting partylines, rig names and even approximate target areas in posts!
Even as early as 2003 the cops had started to monitor things more closely on all rave boards, and by 2004 the monitoring and lockdowns had started in earnest…
TBH a lot of our traffic in those days was merely
Quote:Party on dd/mm/yyyy
(a list of crews/DJs)
Call 07700 900023 [1] for more details after 11pm on SaturdayThere is definitely less of this but that is because a lot of stuff nowadyas goes via private messages or even private email or other messaging services like MSN, plus many rigs have stopped going out (or just been confiscated)
But there was always a load of random banter on here anyway, including such gems as a discussion with an Australian vet nurse on which kinds of corn-based packing peanuts are edible…
[1] NB: This is not a real partyline number!
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