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July 26, 2005 at 7:45 pm #1036639
again friends of mine knew the victim (at this rate there won’t be many of us left!) … I have been told more of a story of what may have happened but will only release it after the legal process has run its course, out of respect for the victims families as well as the law.
Ironically, the girl was a promoter of the event (something TVP didn’t mention in all their press releases for some reason!)
Reggae night killing ‘motiveless’
A woman shot dead on a dance floor at a party was the victim of an apparently motiveless killing, a court has heard. Natasha Derby, 23, was shot in the head at the Multi-Racial Centre in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, on 4 September, in front of 100 people.At Reading Crown Court, Dwane Haughton, 28, of Caversham, Reading, Berkshire, denied charges of murder, manslaughter and possessing ammunition.
Ms Derby, from High Wycombe, died on 5 September at Wycombe General Hospital.
Michael Wood QC, prosecuting, said people at the party recalled hearing “something like a bottle breaking, some recognised it as a gun shot, and some thought it was a bottle of champagne being opened”.
No-one saw a gun or anyone firing a shot at the club in St Mary Street, he said.
During their inquiry, police found a gun cartridge at the scene which bore a print from Mr Haughton’s left hand ring finger, the court was told.
The trial continues.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4715643.stmPublished: 2005/07/25 16:16:06 GMT
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July 27, 2005 at 8:30 am #1066549This is happening far too often. Maybe I’m just a soppy hippie, but is it really that hard to get along people in a society as “free” as ours?
July 27, 2005 at 6:55 pm #1066544ParrotBoy wrote:This is happening far too often. Maybe I’m just a soppy hippie, but is it really that hard to get along people in a society as “free” as ours?OK, more stuff has been discussed in open court and in our local paper (as the defendant was from Reading) so its Ok to relate the story I was told (which has also come out in Court)
it is claimed (by the defence….) that the shooter didn’t even know the victim that well, and to the best of most peoples knowledge hadn’t had any previous beef with her….
he may have discharged a round into the roof space as “thats how rude bwoys show their appreciation for a good tune” (as imitated by lots of MCs etc “pom! pom!” etc)
it richocheted off a beam – bullets come down with a similar velocity to that which they went up…. still enough to wound or kill… [stacks of people are hurt or killed every year in countries where firearms laws are lax and people fire guns into the air for celebratory purposes]
the girl was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
But whether it was premeditated or not, one act of stupidity has fucked up at least two families (there may be feuds across generations now whatever sentence he gets) and brought licensed dance music events on top across TVP area..
July 27, 2005 at 10:08 pm #1066547this shit is incomprehensible to a country bey like meself
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July 27, 2005 at 10:40 pm #1066548Anonymousi was in a tapas bar in bristol bout a year ago, and by the time i got home, someone had been shot just where i was standing for treading on some yardy gunmans toe, who was all nervous cos his link hadnt turned up. the victim was just havin a glass of wine with their mates after work.
fucking crazy how quickly the gun virus spreads. i know a few peeps who have/ claim to have firearms up in the ‘don, and wether they have them or not, the perceived need to have them to protect yourself/ “just get by” is there, and thats what scares me. i cant beleive that people think they need a gun just to walk about the place. its always the cowards who get them first as well, so theyre more likely to shoot someone strait off, than front it out, or take a few punches. properly fucked right up.
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bunch of cunts running that place. oh, whoops, snap!
how a country who is actively starting wars can try to have any kind of anti-gun stance is beyond me. its the old “do as i say, not as i do” crap from our government. cheers tone.
July 28, 2005 at 2:04 pm #1066545USE wrote:i was in a tapas bar in bristol bout a year ago, and by the time i got home, someone had been shot just where i was standing for treading on some yardy gunmans toe, who was all nervous cos his link hadnt turned up. the victim was just havin a glass of wine with their mates after work.fucking crazy how quickly the gun virus spreads. i know a few peeps who have/ claim to have firearms up in the ‘don, and wether they have them or not, the perceived need to have them to protect yourself/ “just get by” is there, and thats what scares me. i cant beleive that people think they need a gun just to walk about the place. its always the cowards who get them first as well, so theyre more likely to shoot someone strait off, than front it out, or take a few punches. properly fucked right up.
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bunch of cunts running that place. oh, whoops, snap!
how a country who is actively starting wars can try to have any kind of anti-gun stance is beyond me. its the old “do as i say, not as i do” crap from our government. cheers tone.
was reading some nursing homework from a person I know who works in the local Emergency dept (just started and already being trained to deal with gunshot wounds and stabbings)
there is one way guns can “protect” you (although its not really protection)
they don’t kill instantly even if you damage vital organs with a single round
(thats why the metpol units fired 5 head shots into the suspected suicide bomber)so even if you have been fatally shot, you can still kill your opponent with your last strength, the idea is every side loses that way instead of one person winning….
its called mutually assured destruction and is the cornerstone of American “defense” policies (which is why they are still talking about nukes”)
September 10, 2005 at 12:54 pm #1066546the result of the court case was that the alleged gunman was not charged with manslaughter – may have got a relatively lenient sentence just for having an unlicensed firearm
TVP were disappointed – but everyones had their day in Court and thats the verdict of the jury who have considered the evidence
the saddest part is that is was a completely pointless incident because people were fucking around with guns at the wrong time in the wrong place
I’m not actually anti gun and feel people should still be allowed to go target shooting – even hunting stuff you are going to eat or controlling animals that could cause disease or destroy your food resources is OK (but not killing animals for fun)
but there is never a justification to bring a firearm loaded with live rounds to a place of entertainment and to discharge it in a crowd… thats an act of war which should have no place in our scene.
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