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    titch
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      i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

      The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs rpsoet it.

      #1067763
      funny cat
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        thats cool, you can read it really quickly as well :weee:

        #1067762
        Acidfairy
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          titch wrote:
          i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

          The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs rpsoet it.

          I couldn’t believe that i could actually understand what i was reading. The phenomenal power of the human mind, according to a researcher at Cambridge University, is that is doesn’t matter in what order the letters in a word are, the only important thing is that the first and the last letter be in the right place..

          The rest can be a total mess and you can still read it without a problem. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word as a whole. Amazing huh? Yeah and i always thought that spelling was important! If you can read this repost it.

          I just did hahah thats well cool…….

          #1067770
          shortylila
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            My god that is well spooky I can read that as if you were writing it normally… being blonde and all is great … who said us blondes are thick!!! :good_evil

            #1067765
            Anonymous

              I did!

              Only kidding. I just mailed that to all my mates, that how good it is.

              #1067764
              funny cat
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                Holeydel wrote:
                I did!

                Only kidding. I just mailed that to all my mates, that how good it is.

                I e-mailed to everyone as well, and one of mates then introduced me to ‘leetspeak’ some wierd computer geek language using numbers and symbols- i found i’m actually pretty good at deciphering that!!

                #1067766
                Anonymous

                  You know I think the English language is gradually being fazed out. I read a few months ago loads of GCSE students around the country risk failing their English exam cos they wrote their answers in txt language.

                  2 b or nt 2 b – Shakespear would have been horrified!

                  Words like Homer’s ‘doh!’ have also made it into the dictionary.

                  And now there’s a geeky computer language.

                  Next!

                  #1067754
                  General Lighting
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                    Holeydel wrote:
                    You know I think the English language is gradually being fazed out. I read a few months ago loads of GCSE students around the country risk failing their English exam cos they wrote their answers in txt language.

                    2 b or nt 2 b – Shakespear would have been horrified!

                    Words like Homer’s ‘doh!’ have also made it into the dictionary.

                    And now there’s a geeky computer language.

                    Next!

                    although when I speak as opposed to typing/writing I use a lot more slang (depending on the audience) and probably sound like your average outer London Asian chav, I am actually fairly concerned at the decline in the use of proper written English; or at least its appropriate use in the right context.

                    Txt-speak predates mobile phone SMS messages by many years. It was originally military slang – used by signals personnel to compress messages sent over low-bandwidth comms circuits via morse code or teletype. the obvious gain in doing this is speed – people are shooting at you or you are in an emergency situation (SOS etc) the message must be sent as quickly as possible!

                    In an exam situation its use is clearly wrong ; but surely their teachers should have challenged their use of this slang long before their pupils were providing exam answers? Doesn’t say much for the quality of the teaching.

                    Spelling or “correct English” isn’t that important to get a core message across as the research showed… but is often important in a wider context and has political implications – there were once different spellings in different regions, which still occurs in dialect, slang words and writing in Scots which in its true form is a language in itself!

                    An underground urban music radio presenter should not retrain themselves to sound like a Radio 4 announcer – OTOH if they were applying for a legit Ofcom license, pitching content to a legal station, writing an article for a local paper or a formal business letter which would be part of a contract (even for another “underground” organisation) it would definitely be sensible to use formal English!

                    The same applies for artists, promoters or anyone dealing with British officialdom; the people with power there will often totally disregard an application (or give it lesser priority) if it is not correctly written in the expected format and in formal language.

                    Incidentally (as an ex-hacker) ‘leet speak is a late 80s/early90s phenomenon, again a product of older technology before Windows/Macs/ where computers had fixed width fonts – often numbers and letters looked similar and were substituted.

                    The language of the professional IT industry today is simply standard technical or business English (with a slight American bias….)

                    #1067759
                    BioTech
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                      Stephen Fwy was on Jonathon Woss wecently.

                      I liked his view on language. He embraces all the new words created- slang, txt spk etc. Because he says that IS language and people who run on about correct spellings etc are not truely lovers of language itself. Language changes and morphs and most words we use now are adapted from others.

                      ‘Book’ was a word he mentioned that now has a new meaning. Apparently a lot of kids who use the T9 prog for predictive text messaging keep ‘book’ in place to mean cool, rather than progress to the next word in the dictionary, because it saves time. But now the kids actually say ‘book’ to mean cool in spoken language. Class!

                      #1067767
                      Anonymous
                        BioTech wrote:
                        Class!

                        Book!!

                        We might as well ‘get with it’

                        #1067755
                        General Lighting
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                          BioTech wrote:
                          Stephen Fwy was on Jonathon Woss wecently.

                          I liked his view on language. He embraces all the new words created- slang, txt spk etc. Because he says that IS language and people who run on about correct spellings etc are not truely lovers of language itself. Language changes and morphs and most words we use now are adapted from others.

                          ‘Book’ was a word he mentioned that now has a new meaning. Apparently a lot of kids who use the T9 prog for predictive text messaging keep ‘book’ in place to mean cool, rather than progress to the next word in the dictionary, because it saves time. But now the kids actually say ‘book’ to mean cool in spoken language. Class!

                          I started the rave slang thread a few months back so I agree with a lot of what the old card-fraudster and runaway (Fry, not BioTech!) says about additions to the language….

                          The re-use of “book” is amusing; although its origin does imply laziness (I never use that t9 function as it always seems to garble any message I try to send!)

                          OTOH if it actually ended up with books becoming cool that would be even better (TBH I think its the sheer amount of exams and tests that perhaps understandably put kids off reading nowadays!)

                          On this note “A Clockwork Orange” is written entirely in an imagined “yoof dialect” of in the 1990s (and takes a while to get into because of this)

                          Ironically I just read today that revision tips were being issued in txt-slang (presumably so kids can download them to mobile devices, which sort of makes sense as this is the one thing kids today probably will take notice off even if they don’t give a monkeys about anything else at school…)

                          #1067760
                          globalloon
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                            but surely their teachers should have challenged their use of this slang long before their pupils were providing exam answers? Doesn’t say much for the quality of the teaching.

                            a mate of mine is a school teacher and he finds quite a few kids in his class each year have no idea about stuff they should have covered two or three years earlier :apathy:

                            and i’ve been asked to visit a local school to talk to some 14 year old pupils… i thought i was going to tell them about what kind of work experience placements we can offer… turns out the school wants me to tell them about how to write a letter to employers when looking for a work experience placement

                            i thought that kind of stuff was taught by the teachers?:wtf:

                            General Lighting wrote:
                            The re-use of “book” is amusing; although its origin does imply laziness (I never use that t9 function as it always seems to garble any message I try to send!)

                            getting a txt asking if i fancy a riot after work always makes me chuckle pint.gif

                            #1067756
                            General Lighting
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                              globalloon wrote:
                              a mate of mine is a school teacher and he finds quite a few kids in his class each year have no idea about stuff they should have covered two or three years earlier :apathy:

                              and i’ve been asked to visit a local school to talk to some 14 year old pupils… i thought i was going to tell them about what kind of work experience placements we can offer… turns out the school wants me to tell them about how to write a letter to employers when looking for a work experience placement

                              i thought that kind of stuff was taught by the teachers?:wtf:

                              shurely shome mishtake?

                              The only letter I would suggest in this situation would be writing an official complaint to the Education Department – it seems completely abhorrent to me that they are expecting someone from the voluntary sector to deliver a basic education service in a British secondary school. Last time I checked you were in SW England, not Bosnia – or have the local chavs torched much of the place and scared off all the real teachers?

                              how are these kids supposed to write real job applications if they don’t already know how to write business letters?

                              Where I work (public sector) we have terrible problems with new staff intake who think that its OK to send a formal e-mail using street slang or txt-speak [i.e one with business-critical data as opposed to a friendly message organising after-work drinks, or a private one between office colleagues of the same age]. My employers insist on a minimum 5 gcses including English Language, and they actually check up on certificates and ring schools etc to confirm their authenticity (when I joined them they even checked up on a 1987 O Level pass!) but the standard here has clearly slipped over the years….

                              If this is how Britain is going (to hell in a handbasket at a very large rate of knots) , I’d suggest you move to Sweden when your daughter reaches school age!

                              At least she will get a decent education there (the youth of Sweden seem amazingly brainy, from what I have seen of them on the net they seem to spend a lot of their time writing all sorts of useful open-source computer software etc or doing something constructive/creative)

                              #1067761
                              globalloon
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                                General Lighting wrote:
                                If this is how Britain is going (to hell in a handbasket at a very large rate of knots) , I’d suggest you move to Sweden when your daughter reaches school age!

                                At least she will get a decent education there (the youth of Sweden seem amazingly brainy, from what I have seen of them on the net they seem to spend a lot of their time writing all sorts of useful open-source computer software etc or doing something constructive/creative)

                                i checked out local schools and i can move just a few miles and be in the catchment area for the best school in Devon for baby globalloon

                                i thought about living in Sweden, so did mrs globalloon… apart from the length of winter and lack of party, i earn more than a swedish school teacher with 30 years experience (!) despite the fact that i have no post 16 qualifications and went to work today dressed as black bloc and threw cold tea molotovs around the office today (for charity) raaa

                                in sweden they start school at 7, in britain, prescott wants a curriculem for 6 months young :rolleyes:

                                the waters are deeper than the surface admits 😐

                                #1067757
                                General Lighting
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                                  globalloon wrote:
                                  i checked out local schools and i can move just a few miles and be in the catchment area for the best school in Devon for baby globalloon

                                  i thought about living in Sweden, so did mrs globalloon… apart from the length of winter and lack of party, i earn more than a swedish school teacher with 30 years experience (!) despite the fact that i have no post 16 qualifications and went to work today dressed as black bloc and threw cold tea molotovs around the office today (for charity) raaa

                                  in sweden they start school at 7, in britain, prescott wants a curriculem for 6 months young :rolleyes:

                                  the waters are deeper than the surface admits 😐

                                  which one is better though?….

                                  The Swedes (and other European nations with similar cultures) still seem to show a lot more skills in engineering/technology etc compared with British youths and a genuine desire and interest in creating and learning at the same time

                                  A couple of Swedish lads wrote an entire freeware PC music roduction programme 10 years ago when the multimedia boom first started)

                                  In wider Europe (including ex-Soviet new entrants) there generally seems to be more interest in technology and engineering amongst young people, and even less of a gender gap (for instance a young lady from East Europe does all the sound engineering for one of our local crews, the blokes in that crew leave her to it and just cart around the speakers!)

                                  but I don’t think British youths are more stupid, perhaps its more a case that starting school so early and so many tests/exams destroy the desire of learning something new for enjoyment.

                                  In my case the stress of exams in my teenage years did (for some time) destroy my interest in both science and arts, and yes, I did turn to various forms of dysfunctional behaviour as a reprisal.

                                  Even today I have a hatred of academic institutions and their formalities.

                                  #1067768
                                  Tombo
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                                    I spent some time in Sweden and really enjoyed my time there, and nipping across to Copenhagen for party nights in Christiansen (like a Amsterdam/glasto hybrid). I have to say bar the climate I would live there. You may be right in that you don’t earn much after tax as a teacher in Sweden but the social security payments are amazing nearly the same as full pay! I think we have a culture where its cool to be stupid, kids are encouraged to be thick. Posh and Beck’s as role models. One of them has some talent but they have half a brain between them. The number of times people ask what I do and when I tell them then give some stupid “could never understand” type answer. If they spent less time worrying about what the big brother contestants were up too and five minutes tying to understand what I told them, life would be peachy.

                                    #1067758
                                    General Lighting
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                                      Tombo wrote:
                                      I think we have a culture where its cool to be stupid, kids are encouraged to be thick. Posh and Beck’s as role models. One of them has some talent but they have half a brain between them. The number of times people ask what I do and when I tell them then give some stupid “could never understand” type answer. If they spent less time worrying about what the big brother contestants were up too and five minutes tying to understand what I told them, life would be peachy.

                                      I think the “dumbing down” is also another form of class manipulation; certain forms of media deliberately champion it in order to create an easily manipulated “lower class”.

                                      Cambridge University research may show letter transpositions do not inhibit the reading of a message, but I’m sure any graduate student writing a paper with incorrect spelling and grammar would be warned to correct it by their tutor!

                                      IMO Posh, Becks and other celebrities are deliberately kept “stupid” (as are many commercial pop stars and personalities, particularly “entry level” presenters on “youth media”) because that way they are less demanding and do not notice how they are in fact a disposable commodity with a limited shelf life, being manipulated by those who own them; the accountants and managers who feel nothing but contempt for them and are quietly sapping their financial and emotional reserves, squeezing them dry and eventually breaking them with “one celebrity scandal too many” when they start getting a bit too uppity…

                                      Those who are in charge of the companies producing reality TV, yoof TV, chavmags and ladmags are nearly all graduates (many from Oxbridge) with a prep/public school secondary education….

                                      We don’t all need to become Oxbridge dons (I only have post 16 education to A-level standard and contrary to popular belief do not even have a first degree!) but “dumbing down” is a very dangerous thing particularly for those who are in alternative communities or live alternative lifestyle.

                                      They are up against opponents with extremely high standards of education and the skills to use their knowledge and intelligence to defeat their adversaries and destroy their networks, often even without the ultimate use of force…

                                      #1067769
                                      Tombo
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                                        The rich help make the rich richer. 🙁

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