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  • #1118552
    djvu
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    act like twats at a party and expect the o.b to come down hard, I mean burgling the office next door?
    pelting pigs at partys
    Pelting there police station after van gets nicked

    and avoid all that whilst doing so

    Cant belive these people i really cant

    following essex where the problems arised from the same people , Almost the same police hate fueled rig

    Im led to belive that when decent rigs and sensible ones was being impounded by the police this one was ditchin there crappy bins and left em to it

    Aagin nice one boys i dont know where partys would be without ya

    #1139282
    djvu
    Participant

    act like twats at a party and expect the o.b to come down hard, I mean burgling the office next door?
    pelting pigs at partys
    Pelting there police station after van gets nicked

    and avoid all that whilst doing so

    Cant belive these people i really cant

    following essex where the problems arised from the same people , Almost the same police hate fueled rig

    Im led to belive that when decent rigs and sensible ones was being impounded by the police this one was ditchin there crappy bins and left em to it

    Aagin nice one boys i dont know where partys would be without ya

    #1118553
    djvu
    Participant

    without rousing a argument with suffolk raver I do hope that your attitude changes towards a situation the police was put in which is there job and they get paid to do it, And the act of idots what was there only to stoke the fire of there brutality.

    You have a lot to learn

    #1139283
    djvu
    Participant

    without rousing a argument with suffolk raver I do hope that your attitude changes towards a situation the police was put in which is there job and they get paid to do it, And the act of idots what was there only to stoke the fire of there brutality.

    You have a lot to learn

    #1118575
    starlaugh
    Participant
    djvu wrote:
    without rousing a argument with suffolk raver I do hope that your attitude changes towards a situation the police was put in which is there job and they get paid to do it, And the act of idots what was there only to stoke the fire of there brutality.

    You have a lot to learn

    Not the only person who has this attitude TBH which is a shame, people need to use their heads more i think.

    #1139306
    starlaugh
    Participant
    djvu wrote:
    without rousing a argument with suffolk raver I do hope that your attitude changes towards a situation the police was put in which is there job and they get paid to do it, And the act of idots what was there only to stoke the fire of there brutality.

    You have a lot to learn

    Not the only person who has this attitude TBH which is a shame, people need to use their heads more i think.

    #1118546
    BioTech
    Participant

    I wouldn’t be so hard on SuffolkRavas. He has said that he disagreed with the throwing of bottles and aggression.

    Luckily I’ve never been severely battered/savaged by police for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Although if I had been trying to leave peacefully as requested only to be beaten to the ground with batons and shields and then have tear gas sprayed in my face whilst I watched other innocent people, including terrified girls, brutalised around me by a blood thirsty mob then I wouldn’t have many nice things to say about the police either.

    There are a number of things that happened that shouldn’t have done (poor choice of location and smashing of police cars at the station being two of them) but the majority of the people will have been innocent party people like the rest of you on this site and they paid in blood for the actions of a few idiots. If a fight breaks out in town you don’t see the police taking their numbers off and then proceeding to batter every single person in site whether they were involved or not.

    Like I say, I do not condone a lot of the stuff that happened, but as for the people that are angry with the way the police dealt with things, don’t be so quick to judge them.

    #1139276
    BioTech
    Participant

    I wouldn’t be so hard on SuffolkRavas. He has said that he disagreed with the throwing of bottles and aggression.

    Luckily I’ve never been severely battered/savaged by police for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Although if I had been trying to leave peacefully as requested only to be beaten to the ground with batons and shields and then have tear gas sprayed in my face whilst I watched other innocent people, including terrified girls, brutalised around me by a blood thirsty mob then I wouldn’t have many nice things to say about the police either.

    There are a number of things that happened that shouldn’t have done (poor choice of location and smashing of police cars at the station being two of them) but the majority of the people will have been innocent party people like the rest of you on this site and they paid in blood for the actions of a few idiots. If a fight breaks out in town you don’t see the police taking their numbers off and then proceeding to batter every single person in site whether they were involved or not.

    Like I say, I do not condone a lot of the stuff that happened, but as for the people that are angry with the way the police dealt with things, don’t be so quick to judge them.

    #1118540
    General Lighting
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    BioTech wrote:
    Luckily I’ve never been severely battered/savaged by police for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Although if I had been trying to leave peacefully as requested only to be beaten to the ground with batons and shields and then have tear gas sprayed in my face whilst I watched other innocent people, including terrified girls, brutalised around me by a blood thirsty mob then I wouldn’t have many nice things to say about the police either.

    a similar thing happened this time last month in the forest and that definitely was unjustified. The crews in question had deliberately picked a remote outdoor location which was technically everyones property – we all pay taxes and Forestry Commission is a public sector organisation – and none of the crews were known for confrontations with the Police and were fairly responsible.

    again this rave was broken up by 3 forces with baton charges etc – this is definitely being done to “prove a point” and is similar to the tactics used in SE England when the locals and cops felt the scene had got out of hand.

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    If a fight breaks out in town you don’t see the police taking their numbers off and then proceeding to batter every single person in site whether they were involved or not.

    unfortunately it is even starting to happen in cities – it happened in Reading centre a few years ago and there wasn’t even a rave, just a fight by the taxi rank (I was told about it by my then work colleagues and they were just drinkers in town) – I think the Met put on riot gear and also stormed a “community day” in South London because local gangs were kicking off..

    getting back to our region there was a poll in the local papers when the July “riot” happened and even after the pics of riot squad were shown there were 50% of people saying the cops should have done more to stop the rave

    wider society is now so paranoid and bitter that they seem to think “yob culture” should be dealt with by the Police just acting like bigger yobs :you_crazy

    #1139270
    General Lighting
    Moderator
    BioTech wrote:
    Luckily I’ve never been severely battered/savaged by police for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Although if I had been trying to leave peacefully as requested only to be beaten to the ground with batons and shields and then have tear gas sprayed in my face whilst I watched other innocent people, including terrified girls, brutalised around me by a blood thirsty mob then I wouldn’t have many nice things to say about the police either.

    a similar thing happened this time last month in the forest and that definitely was unjustified. The crews in question had deliberately picked a remote outdoor location which was technically everyones property – we all pay taxes and Forestry Commission is a public sector organisation – and none of the crews were known for confrontations with the Police and were fairly responsible.

    again this rave was broken up by 3 forces with baton charges etc – this is definitely being done to “prove a point” and is similar to the tactics used in SE England when the locals and cops felt the scene had got out of hand.

    Quote:
    If a fight breaks out in town you don’t see the police taking their numbers off and then proceeding to batter every single person in site whether they were involved or not.

    unfortunately it is even starting to happen in cities – it happened in Reading centre a few years ago and there wasn’t even a rave, just a fight by the taxi rank (I was told about it by my then work colleagues and they were just drinkers in town) – I think the Met put on riot gear and also stormed a “community day” in South London because local gangs were kicking off..

    getting back to our region there was a poll in the local papers when the July “riot” happened and even after the pics of riot squad were shown there were 50% of people saying the cops should have done more to stop the rave

    wider society is now so paranoid and bitter that they seem to think “yob culture” should be dealt with by the Police just acting like bigger yobs :you_crazy

    #1118569
    stax
    Participant

    we left this party early , was’nt feeling the vibe and it looked like its was doomed from the off. there was a police line at the entrance to the ind est and we got searched on way out. we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    #1139300
    stax
    Participant

    we left this party early , was’nt feeling the vibe and it looked like its was doomed from the off. there was a police line at the entrance to the ind est and we got searched on way out. we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    #1118568
    process
    Participant
    stax wrote:
    we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    Too True, unfortunatly…

    #1139299
    process
    Participant
    stax wrote:
    we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    Too True, unfortunatly…

    #1118547
    BioTech
    Participant
    stax wrote:
    we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    I suppose it’s encouraging that the bobbies on the beat do see the mechanics of it fairly clearly. The story seems to come out a bit skewed the higher up the chain you go though.

    #1139277
    BioTech
    Participant
    stax wrote:
    we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    I suppose it’s encouraging that the bobbies on the beat do see the mechanics of it fairly clearly. The story seems to come out a bit skewed the higher up the chain you go though.

    #1118541
    General Lighting
    Moderator
    BioTech wrote:
    I suppose it’s encouraging that the bobbies on the beat do see the mechanics of it fairly clearly. The story seems to come out a bit skewed the higher up the chain you go though.

    once they change into their “public order uniform” (i.e helmet, extra protective gear etc) they have to change their attitude and do whatever the chain of command tells them even if they don’t agree personally with it as an individual

    going by previous incidents in my old area I also do feel there are too many people what whip up all sorts of trouble with OB at raves because they have beef with them as they have got caught dealing or robbing or blatantly breaking the law

    Then you get the crew barricading someone elses commercial property as a “show of solidarity”

    it becomes “BK vs VK”

    #1139271
    General Lighting
    Moderator
    BioTech wrote:
    I suppose it’s encouraging that the bobbies on the beat do see the mechanics of it fairly clearly. The story seems to come out a bit skewed the higher up the chain you go though.

    once they change into their “public order uniform” (i.e helmet, extra protective gear etc) they have to change their attitude and do whatever the chain of command tells them even if they don’t agree personally with it as an individual

    going by previous incidents in my old area I also do feel there are too many people what whip up all sorts of trouble with OB at raves because they have beef with them as they have got caught dealing or robbing or blatantly breaking the law

    Then you get the crew barricading someone elses commercial property as a “show of solidarity”

    it becomes “BK vs VK”

    #1118570
    stax
    Participant

    yer the ones we were speakin to were ok and we were able to have a decent convo about it all , but then head honcho comes over and more or less pushes the other bobbies out the way claiming ‘im gathering information move out the way’ then starts asking all these questions like.

    #1139301
    stax
    Participant

    yer the ones we were speakin to were ok and we were able to have a decent convo about it all , but then head honcho comes over and more or less pushes the other bobbies out the way claiming ‘im gathering information move out the way’ then starts asking all these questions like.

    #1118554
    djvu
    Participant

    we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    people ruining it for the rest of us then using the decent rigs to set exapmple

    ITs a shambles within

    #1139284
    djvu
    Participant

    we had a few conversations with the OB putting my side accross- ‘i pay my tax, im not a bad person’ blah blah blah and most of em were like ‘yer we know but theres a small group of your lot that ruin things for ya’

    people ruining it for the rest of us then using the decent rigs to set exapmple

    ITs a shambles within

    #1118571
    technobiker
    Participant

    problem is much as there is a hardcore bunch of assholes within the scene there are also a hardcore bunch of asholes within the force who are hell bent on beatin the shit outta us……and it seems both our side and theirs are allowed to be lead by these assholes from bothsides….

    on the whole there are very sensible approachable people on both sides…

    but nob head rule always seems to set the president

    #1139302
    technobiker
    Participant

    problem is much as there is a hardcore bunch of assholes within the scene there are also a hardcore bunch of asholes within the force who are hell bent on beatin the shit outta us……and it seems both our side and theirs are allowed to be lead by these assholes from bothsides….

    on the whole there are very sensible approachable people on both sides…

    but nob head rule always seems to set the president

    #1118536
    Anonymous

    remember the moot on the ridgeway (5th October 2002)…

    http://www.fushion.org.uk/gallery/folder/2002/7.Moot%20of%20the%20Mist%205th%20Oct%202002

    the police wanted to put the message across at the end of the party season that ridgeway parties were to be stopped, so came in heavy handed with horses, dogs, chopper etc.

    It worked as well. no big parties have happened up there since.

    I see this happening in Norfolk.

    parties still go on, and will always….. .just gotta give the area a rest for a while…

    Bugs (missing the Ridgeway!)

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