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    JonnyQuest
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    so im walking up a large highstreet in south east london and this guy comes up to me and asks for a rizle, i pull out my rizla and go to give him a couple, he then says nah dont worry about i just say that to find out if people blaze you heard of …. i reply yes i have ehard of …. he sayd well thats me take my number down yeh, so i do then i walk 1 way he walks the other
    2 seconds after that a couple of ob come up to me and flash there badge n start quizzing me about how i knew him, i told them he was my brother (he was black, i am white) fucking 5.0

    #1160673
    lilmstrixta
    Participant

    haha where they following him do you think?
    bit mental that aint it!

    #1218540
    lilmstrixta
    Participant

    haha where they following him do you think?
    bit mental that aint it!

    #1160670
    JonnyQuest
    Participant

    they were eaither following him, or trying to trap me, i doubt it was the latter though

    #1218537
    JonnyQuest
    Participant

    they were eaither following him, or trying to trap me, i doubt it was the latter though

    #1160666
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    Could be that he’s also a copper and its an intelligence gathering exercise to find out how much into the drugs culture you are and whether you are using or dealing

    about 20 years ago there was this advert in the London papers

    it showed a white copper in uniform running after a black man

    it said “what do you see?”

    a] a copper hassling an innocent minority?
    b] a bobby catching a potential criminal?

    but both answers were wrong – it was a bobby and a detective (the black guy) chasing after a third person..

    #1218533
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    Could be that he’s also a copper and its an intelligence gathering exercise to find out how much into the drugs culture you are and whether you are using or dealing

    about 20 years ago there was this advert in the London papers

    it showed a white copper in uniform running after a black man

    it said “what do you see?”

    a] a copper hassling an innocent minority?
    b] a bobby catching a potential criminal?

    but both answers were wrong – it was a bobby and a detective (the black guy) chasing after a third person..

    #1160671
    JonnyQuest
    Participant
    General Lighting wrote:
    Could be that he’s also a copper and its an intelligence gathering exercise to find out how much into the drugs culture you are and whether you are using or dealing

    about 20 years ago there was this advert in the London papers

    it showed a white copper in uniform running after a black man

    it said “what do you see?”

    a] a copper hassling an innocent minority?
    b] a bobby catching a potential criminal?

    but both answers were wrong – it was a bobby and a detective (the black guy) chasing after a third person..

    i did consider that but the guy was pretty young , i tried to call him a minute or 2 after to tell him but the phone was engaged so mabey your right

    #1218538
    JonnyQuest
    Participant
    General Lighting wrote:
    Could be that he’s also a copper and its an intelligence gathering exercise to find out how much into the drugs culture you are and whether you are using or dealing

    about 20 years ago there was this advert in the London papers

    it showed a white copper in uniform running after a black man

    it said “what do you see?”

    a] a copper hassling an innocent minority?
    b] a bobby catching a potential criminal?

    but both answers were wrong – it was a bobby and a detective (the black guy) chasing after a third person..

    i did consider that but the guy was pretty young , i tried to call him a minute or 2 after to tell him but the phone was engaged so mabey your right

    #1160674
    lilmstrixta
    Participant

    what did they say when you said he was your brother?

    #1218541
    lilmstrixta
    Participant

    what did they say when you said he was your brother?

    #1160672
    JonnyQuest
    Participant
    lilmstrixta wrote:
    what did they say when you said he was your brother?

    scowled at me then walked off they were a proper bare of goons , flashed his badge down by his waist like he was hot shit lol

    #1218539
    JonnyQuest
    Participant
    lilmstrixta wrote:
    what did they say when you said he was your brother?

    scowled at me then walked off they were a proper bare of goons , flashed his badge down by his waist like he was hot shit lol

    #1160675
    lilmstrixta
    Participant
    JonnyQuest wrote:
    scowled at me then walked off they were a proper bare of goons , flashed his badge down by his waist like he was hot shit lol

    ha bit odd im surprised they didnt search you.
    i havent had a stop n search for ages used to get um quite a lot when i lived in manc

    #1218542
    lilmstrixta
    Participant
    JonnyQuest wrote:
    scowled at me then walked off they were a proper bare of goons , flashed his badge down by his waist like he was hot shit lol

    ha bit odd im surprised they didnt search you.
    i havent had a stop n search for ages used to get um quite a lot when i lived in manc

    #1160668
    MisterDuck
    Participant

    i hate being stopped and searched

    its just so fucking… i dunno, it’s like “why are you searching me mate?” and whatever excuse they give it’s cos your young and wearin baggy shit.

    they search loads of people near college, we even have a mobile police station there… and it’s a really good college, never seen ANY trouble (as opposed to secondary school which was dodgy shit).

    just knickin people for drugs, bastards.

    #1218535
    MisterDuck
    Participant

    i hate being stopped and searched

    its just so fucking… i dunno, it’s like “why are you searching me mate?” and whatever excuse they give it’s cos your young and wearin baggy shit.

    they search loads of people near college, we even have a mobile police station there… and it’s a really good college, never seen ANY trouble (as opposed to secondary school which was dodgy shit).

    just knickin people for drugs, bastards.

    #1160664
    Anonymous

    they was tailin him standard practice in london and the home countys. give over with the mad conspiricy theorys…

    #1218531
    Anonymous

    they was tailin him standard practice in london and the home countys. give over with the mad conspiricy theorys…

    #1160669
    MisterDuck
    Participant
    MrAHC wrote:
    give over with the mad conspiricy theorys…

    they seemed quite realistic compared to some of the conspiracy theories i’ve heard…

    “THE HOLOCAUST DIDN’T EXIST!” etc. :you_crazy

    #1218536
    MisterDuck
    Participant
    MrAHC wrote:
    give over with the mad conspiricy theorys…

    they seemed quite realistic compared to some of the conspiracy theories i’ve heard…

    “THE HOLOCAUST DIDN’T EXIST!” etc. :you_crazy

    #1160665
    Anonymous

    undercover ob see man act suss in london, ob follow said man who aproaches another man, ob then aproach other man to see what the suss man wanted.

    report over radio to car or uniform to stop and search so cover is not blown on a whim.

    standard plain clothes tattic.

    #1218532
    Anonymous

    undercover ob see man act suss in london, ob follow said man who aproaches another man, ob then aproach other man to see what the suss man wanted.

    report over radio to car or uniform to stop and search so cover is not blown on a whim.

    standard plain clothes tattic.

    #1160667
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    They’ve got enough muscle in uniform to stop anyone they want in London.

    It could have been the old style tail but these 80s/90s tactics have hardly been a roaring success in stopping London’s drugs trade..

    These days cops in London and Home Counties have started doing more of the deep cover stuff again – but in a more “politically correct” way (they work with lawyers to get round stuff like entrapment / human rights laws).

    Todays cop is less likely to be the knuckle dragging thug of yesteryear or a “Life on Mars” stereotype – people do degrees, serve as a bobby for a couple of years and then go to CID (usually in a different area to where they have lived/studied) – some cops are quite brainy these days, and have more of a “do-gooder” mentality than the “Life on Mars” type attitudes..

    Often they aren’t that bothered about arresting small timers but just want to a feel for the area and what the drugs culture is like (i.e whether people are bold enough to deal or use on the street) – and how to deal with it / frighten away dealers.

    seemingly pointless things like this are often a way of training rookie detectives with low-risk subjects – as they expect neither Jonny nor the other lad (assuming he was just a dealer)) would be likely to be violent…

    Cops these days increasingly also work with NHS, social workers, teachers/college staff, all kinds of “social professionals” and its a linked surveillance / monitoring operation which starts off low-key and culminates in heavier responses depending how stubborn / blatant the dealers etc are.

    its no “conspiracy”, just those in power working together to enforce laws. In areas that follow Met practices but are “calmer” like Essex/Suffolk it has been very successful in removing street dealers, prostitutes etc…

    I know the sort of areas Jonnyquest lived in as I used to live there myself. The “normal” public are extremely fucked off with the gang/drugs culture there, they live under constant fear of crime (whether its real or imagined) and many will support the cops doing whatever they can to try and “make the streets safer”.

    I saw this happen myself in Dec 2006/Early 2007 in my town. We got literally flooded with cops due to the various murder investigations – uniformed and detectives – crime plummeted and the public said “why can’t it be like that all the time?”

    #1218534
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    They’ve got enough muscle in uniform to stop anyone they want in London.

    It could have been the old style tail but these 80s/90s tactics have hardly been a roaring success in stopping London’s drugs trade..

    These days cops in London and Home Counties have started doing more of the deep cover stuff again – but in a more “politically correct” way (they work with lawyers to get round stuff like entrapment / human rights laws).

    Todays cop is less likely to be the knuckle dragging thug of yesteryear or a “Life on Mars” stereotype – people do degrees, serve as a bobby for a couple of years and then go to CID (usually in a different area to where they have lived/studied) – some cops are quite brainy these days, and have more of a “do-gooder” mentality than the “Life on Mars” type attitudes..

    Often they aren’t that bothered about arresting small timers but just want to a feel for the area and what the drugs culture is like (i.e whether people are bold enough to deal or use on the street) – and how to deal with it / frighten away dealers.

    seemingly pointless things like this are often a way of training rookie detectives with low-risk subjects – as they expect neither Jonny nor the other lad (assuming he was just a dealer)) would be likely to be violent…

    Cops these days increasingly also work with NHS, social workers, teachers/college staff, all kinds of “social professionals” and its a linked surveillance / monitoring operation which starts off low-key and culminates in heavier responses depending how stubborn / blatant the dealers etc are.

    its no “conspiracy”, just those in power working together to enforce laws. In areas that follow Met practices but are “calmer” like Essex/Suffolk it has been very successful in removing street dealers, prostitutes etc…

    I know the sort of areas Jonnyquest lived in as I used to live there myself. The “normal” public are extremely fucked off with the gang/drugs culture there, they live under constant fear of crime (whether its real or imagined) and many will support the cops doing whatever they can to try and “make the streets safer”.

    I saw this happen myself in Dec 2006/Early 2007 in my town. We got literally flooded with cops due to the various murder investigations – uniformed and detectives – crime plummeted and the public said “why can’t it be like that all the time?”

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