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    MisterDuck
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      e_babes wrote:
      I think what Mr AHC is extremelly pissed off about is that the word Pikey is used all too often and does seem to refer (according to the middle classes) to travellers in general. However, MrAHC is not of this image and so different, however people still refer to him as a “Pikey” when the defination doesn’t fit

      I can say the same about gays really – people use the word “gay” too much nowadays. I mean, everything is “totally gay” this and “thats gay” that – But I don’t get offended.

      I mean, when someone tells you someone is gay there is an image that crosses most peoples minds and they think, camp, effeminate, probebly wears makeup and is a sexual deviant – Well I aint… and the definiton or stereotype just does not fit – just like MrAHC

      Tell me if I am wrong?

      to be honest i’m straigh but have plently of gay mates, and interms of using gay as a derogatory term, it all comes down to whether the said person meant it homophobicly or not, or it had just become part of their vocabluarly. tbh “gay” as in “thats gay” doesnt even have a reference to homosexuality with most people, its just grown to mean slang for shit!

      i dont think people should get offended that easily, TG was quoting and not using the word herself and there was no offence implied whatsoever

      #1213380
      MisterDuck
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        e_babes wrote:
        I think what Mr AHC is extremelly pissed off about is that the word Pikey is used all too often and does seem to refer (according to the middle classes) to travellers in general. However, MrAHC is not of this image and so different, however people still refer to him as a “Pikey” when the defination doesn’t fit

        I can say the same about gays really – people use the word “gay” too much nowadays. I mean, everything is “totally gay” this and “thats gay” that – But I don’t get offended.

        I mean, when someone tells you someone is gay there is an image that crosses most peoples minds and they think, camp, effeminate, probebly wears makeup and is a sexual deviant – Well I aint… and the definiton or stereotype just does not fit – just like MrAHC

        Tell me if I am wrong?

        to be honest i’m straigh but have plently of gay mates, and interms of using gay as a derogatory term, it all comes down to whether the said person meant it homophobicly or not, or it had just become part of their vocabluarly. tbh “gay” as in “thats gay” doesnt even have a reference to homosexuality with most people, its just grown to mean slang for shit!

        i dont think people should get offended that easily, TG was quoting and not using the word herself and there was no offence implied whatsoever

        #1155949
        spark_plug
        Participant

          basically…i shouldnt of brought it back up but i couldnt help myself. we should all lay the matter to rest now cause everyones had there say

          #1213386
          spark_plug
          Participant

            basically…i shouldnt of brought it back up but i couldnt help myself. we should all lay the matter to rest now cause everyones had there say

            #1155950
            GiantMidget
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              What a nation of pussies we’ve become!! Sticks and stones and all that! I think people need to get a fucking backbone eh?!? :you_crazy

              (First time i’ve seen this thread so there!)

              #1213388
              GiantMidget
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                What a nation of pussies we’ve become!! Sticks and stones and all that! I think people need to get a fucking backbone eh?!? :you_crazy

                (First time i’ve seen this thread so there!)

                #1155918
                Anonymous

                  I think your right Cliffy…

                  (YOU’LL A BUNCH OF SHANDY DRINKIN POOFTAHS!!!)

                  :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

                  #1213350
                  Anonymous

                    I think your right Cliffy…

                    (YOU’LL A BUNCH OF SHANDY DRINKIN POOFTAHS!!!)

                    :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

                    #1155958
                    DaftFader
                    Participant
                      e_babes wrote:
                      I think your right Cliffy…

                      (YOU’LL A BUNCH OF SHANDY DRINKIN POOFTAHS!!!)

                      :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

                      lol :laugh_at:

                      #1213397
                      DaftFader
                      Participant
                        e_babes wrote:
                        I think your right Cliffy…

                        (YOU’LL A BUNCH OF SHANDY DRINKIN POOFTAHS!!!)

                        :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

                        lol :laugh_at:

                        #1155944
                        MisterDuck
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                          #1213381
                          MisterDuck
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                            #1155968
                            lilmstrixta
                            Participant

                              oh my god i cannot believe that im sure it was ment as an innocent joke but still

                              #1213410
                              lilmstrixta
                              Participant

                                oh my god i cannot believe that im sure it was ment as an innocent joke but still

                                #1155919
                                process
                                Participant

                                  Here we go again…

                                  :lockthethreadlockthethreadlockthethread!:

                                  #1213351
                                  process
                                  Participant

                                    Here we go again…

                                    :lockthethreadlockthethreadlockthethread!:

                                    #1155964
                                    Sini
                                    Participant
                                      djprocess wrote:
                                      Here we go again…

                                      :lockthethreadlockthethreadlockthethread!:

                                      :laugh_at:

                                      [hides]

                                      Lock it now!

                                      #1213405
                                      Sini
                                      Participant
                                        djprocess wrote:
                                        Here we go again…

                                        :lockthethreadlockthethreadlockthethread!:

                                        :laugh_at:

                                        [hides]

                                        Lock it now!

                                        #1155959
                                        DaftFader
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                                          The wisecracking puppet, who has been on children’s TV since the Sixties, is being investigated by the police for racism, after his show featured a gipsy selling pegs and heather.
                                          Members of the gipsy community complained to the Northamptonshire force, saying this was racial abuse.

                                          didn’t think gypsys had tv’s …..:hiding: (jk)

                                          #1213399
                                          DaftFader
                                          Participant

                                            The wisecracking puppet, who has been on children’s TV since the Sixties, is being investigated by the police for racism, after his show featured a gipsy selling pegs and heather.
                                            Members of the gipsy community complained to the Northamptonshire force, saying this was racial abuse.

                                            didn’t think gypsys had tv’s …..:hiding: (jk)

                                            #1155909
                                            General Lighting
                                            Moderator

                                              I thought the complaint was also more about a further joke later on in the show about gipsy fortune tellers nicking wallets (which TBH I think is a bit off for a show aimed at children of infant/junior school age)

                                              people have to be careful about challenging “stereotypes” though

                                              What is actually wrong about the lady selling heather?

                                              I’ve seen gipsies doing this in Reading as recently as the late 1990s, and the lady in the show was supposed to be one of Basil’s neighbours anyway (which would indicate they were on friendly terms – anyway a single lad living with a fox is a bit rum in itself…)

                                              Its like how people whinged about Asians being portrayed as doctors and corner shop owners in 80s tv shows… whats wrong with that? doctors make people better, and shops are useful.

                                              So they clamoured for “better, more realistic” portrayals of Asians – now they are portrayed as terrorists, criminals, drug addicts or coppers in dramas which may often be artistically good (and often fairly realistic) but in fact “talk up” problems and increase anger and divisions.

                                              #1213339
                                              General Lighting
                                              Moderator

                                                I thought the complaint was also more about a further joke later on in the show about gipsy fortune tellers nicking wallets (which TBH I think is a bit off for a show aimed at children of infant/junior school age)

                                                people have to be careful about challenging “stereotypes” though

                                                What is actually wrong about the lady selling heather?

                                                I’ve seen gipsies doing this in Reading as recently as the late 1990s, and the lady in the show was supposed to be one of Basil’s neighbours anyway (which would indicate they were on friendly terms – anyway a single lad living with a fox is a bit rum in itself…)

                                                Its like how people whinged about Asians being portrayed as doctors and corner shop owners in 80s tv shows… whats wrong with that? doctors make people better, and shops are useful.

                                                So they clamoured for “better, more realistic” portrayals of Asians – now they are portrayed as terrorists, criminals, drug addicts or coppers in dramas which may often be artistically good (and often fairly realistic) but in fact “talk up” problems and increase anger and divisions.

                                                #1155973
                                                Dom_sufc
                                                Participant

                                                  It is a little bit over the top for a kids TV program, but you are right. And I think there’s alot of things that can be found to be offensive out there to alot of different types of people. Comedians often joke of fat people, posh people, poor people, people who drink, people who dont drink, people who listen to whatever type of music. I dont think It would be right to condem one thing, and leave the rest as they are.

                                                  Even with the theory of the above, Its always been touchy anyway, and there’s loads of contradiction within the world when it comes to sterotypes, and whats alowed as a joke, and what isn’t. I tell you what, the whole thing itself is a fucking joke.

                                                  I luagh at fat jokes, but I have nothing against fat people. I have laughed at seemingly racist jokes, but I am definitely NOT racist. Infact, I got told alot og jokes that wwould be seen as controversial, buy a a devoted catholic, who ran his own church thing. He always told me they were just jokes, as they should be.

                                                  I think a joke is a joke as long as its not intended to insult anyone, because then its an insult of course. That is where the line should be drawn.

                                                  I also hope no one gets the wrong Idea about me from this post. Im just being honest enough for people to see how It really is.

                                                  #1213416
                                                  Dom_sufc
                                                  Participant

                                                    It is a little bit over the top for a kids TV program, but you are right. And I think there’s alot of things that can be found to be offensive out there to alot of different types of people. Comedians often joke of fat people, posh people, poor people, people who drink, people who dont drink, people who listen to whatever type of music. I dont think It would be right to condem one thing, and leave the rest as they are.

                                                    Even with the theory of the above, Its always been touchy anyway, and there’s loads of contradiction within the world when it comes to sterotypes, and whats alowed as a joke, and what isn’t. I tell you what, the whole thing itself is a fucking joke.

                                                    I luagh at fat jokes, but I have nothing against fat people. I have laughed at seemingly racist jokes, but I am definitely NOT racist. Infact, I got told alot og jokes that wwould be seen as controversial, buy a a devoted catholic, who ran his own church thing. He always told me they were just jokes, as they should be.

                                                    I think a joke is a joke as long as its not intended to insult anyone, because then its an insult of course. That is where the line should be drawn.

                                                    I also hope no one gets the wrong Idea about me from this post. Im just being honest enough for people to see how It really is.

                                                    #1155960
                                                    DaftFader
                                                    Participant
                                                      Dom_sufc wrote:
                                                      It is a little bit over the top for a kids TV program, but you are right. And I think there’s alot of things that can be found to be offensive out there to alot of different types of people. Comedians often joke of fat people, posh people, poor people, people who drink, people who dont drink, people who listen to whatever type of music. I dont think It would be right to condem one thing, and leave the rest as they are.

                                                      Even with the theory of the above, Its always been touchy anyway, and there’s loads of contradiction within the world when it comes to sterotypes, and whats alowed as a joke, and what isn’t. I tell you what, the whole thing itself is a fucking joke.

                                                      I luagh at fat jokes, but I have nothing against fat people. I have laughed at seemingly racist jokes, but I am definitely NOT racist. Infact, I got told alot og jokes that wwould be seen as controversial, buy a a devoted catholic, who ran his own church thing. He always told me they were just jokes, as they should be.

                                                      I think a joke is a joke as long as its not intended to insult anyone, because then its an insult of course. That is where the line should be drawn.

                                                      I also hope no one gets the wrong Idea about me from this post. Im just being honest enough for people to see how It really is.

                                                      i laugh at any thing i find funny .. can’t help it … even if the joke is “contravertial” .. i’m not gonna hold my laughter in just cos it’s not deemed pc … i laugh at jew jokes and so does my dad even tho he used to be jewish and me and him have jewish relatives … at the end of the day .. if some one makes a joke at a sterio type .. then all they are making fun of is “the sterio type” not the actual people .. unless a perticuler person falls into that sterio type it’s not realy about them imo

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