and be prepared. dont advertize freeparties publicly. just because some are getting away withpublicly advertizing at the moment doesent mean that evidence is not being collected to be used at a later date.

the best defence against the license act 2003 is that your party is a private freeparty or gathering and that you take all efforts to make it so. you also need to let all your friends that are invited by what ever private means you use that it is a private affair.

its not a question of big, small, safe or unsafe areas, no one knows whats safe and isnt and if we all avoid certain areas the seemingly safe will soon become unsafe. its not about big either as small parties have fallen foul of this law before and after the amendments. At a big party of several rigs who have been careful to keep it out of the public domain and no one makes statements saying the public were invited, the councils case will not be certain and it is likely to fold because they will not want a long drawn out case they may lose and have to pay the cost. this is how it has worked in the past. the council hope to get pleas of guilty and often drop contested case’s, its not certain thats how it will go but unless we want to see an end to freeparties we need to get everyone on board just in case.
IMO we dont have any choice. mixed messages being sent are a problem and we need an united front so most people get the message

people are still going to party and if they are not to some extent prepared there is going to be a snowball effect and the end to freedom as we know it.

please delete or tell me if I over step the mark.

Its important that we take note of the serious nature of the current situation.
In addition, while we cannot talk openly about all aspects, we do need to have some idea of what is going down so we can step carefully.

I will be lending what help I can and have already, but I know some are concerned with the costs and I do not know if a donation fund to help with solicitor’s fees might be in order, I don’t know if there are any rich or kind benefactors out there. I don’t think a benefit party is a good idea though.

I can remember some big case’s in the early 90’s before the amendment that set a precedent which made it unreliable for the councils to invest money taking many to task. We are being tested now and freedom as we know its is in jeopardy.

It is important that we all make efforts to not break this law and try to keep it all-private, we don’t have any choice IMO.

Hmm I think any of this would have a problem in a court of law. .clearly ‘paper flyers’ could be produced by anyone and it would need to be proved that the person/s! who are holding the party were responsible for the production. .and/or distribution . . .likewise if individuals take it upon themselves to use numbers (mob) to inform others. .a court will also need to determine if the ‘person’ holding the party was responsible . . and if ‘that invite was public. . or aimed at certain persons to whom that person knows. . one person can not be held responsible for another individuals actions. . for instance ‘did you know that there is going to be a party next week. .on. .at . . I do not know who it is but a freind of a freind said. . who is responsible? FREEDOM of INFORMATION. . is it so that we must gag each other. . watch out for a labour . . party . . meeting

two things here the law has been changed because it has been hard to find organizers so they have made Rigs and entertainers responsible also, and second the best way to fight while the floodgates are open is to not give them this evidence to argue in the first place. they are using flyer and internet forum postings as evidence, oh and another thing remember a judge is deciding who to believe, it was always hard for them to bring a succesful case but things have changed and the harder we make it the better, and if you want to water down that message, and people dont take it on board, more rigs will be in the same boat IMO.