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February 6, 2008 at 12:09 am #1154572
I like country western!
February 6, 2008 at 12:09 am #1211804I like country western!
February 6, 2008 at 3:35 pm #1154575yeh no offense to those who like there fast tunes but i just cant get into fast stuff like gabba, speedcore and others. im into my hard dance/hard trance/techno/breakbeat but the fastest that i’ve pretty much just got into is jungle.
February 6, 2008 at 3:35 pm #1211807yeh no offense to those who like there fast tunes but i just cant get into fast stuff like gabba, speedcore and others. im into my hard dance/hard trance/techno/breakbeat but the fastest that i’ve pretty much just got into is jungle.
February 6, 2008 at 4:18 pm #1154562Hmm – plenty of people down south like fast music too
I think there’s a deeper reason for this
up North and in Scotland licensed dance music events are grudgingly endured by authorities as the drinks / ticket sales contribute more to the local economy despite the costs of drink/drugs binges.
down south if someone has a big town venue there are far less risky things (from a business POV) they can do with it like make it a restaurant or just turn it into yuppie flats or offices – more potential and richer customers, less bad image etc..
so there are less dance music events down south apart from in lower-income areas …and althought east Anglia has a lot of music lovers there are also a lot of puritans (many with power and influence) who get venues restricted or closed down…
take a look at DSI and where all the venues what don’t get closed down end up, whether its north or south they all tend to be in lower-income areas.. music is being pushed into the ghetto IMO..
February 6, 2008 at 4:18 pm #1211793Hmm – plenty of people down south like fast music too
I think there’s a deeper reason for this
up North and in Scotland licensed dance music events are grudgingly endured by authorities as the drinks / ticket sales contribute more to the local economy despite the costs of drink/drugs binges.
down south if someone has a big town venue there are far less risky things (from a business POV) they can do with it like make it a restaurant or just turn it into yuppie flats or offices – more potential and richer customers, less bad image etc..
so there are less dance music events down south apart from in lower-income areas …and althought east Anglia has a lot of music lovers there are also a lot of puritans (many with power and influence) who get venues restricted or closed down…
take a look at DSI and where all the venues what don’t get closed down end up, whether its north or south they all tend to be in lower-income areas.. music is being pushed into the ghetto IMO..
February 6, 2008 at 7:40 pm #1154571yeh i tookk the article as a joke really
one thing that i noticed tho is glade (i think?) sed on its site that it doesnt do DnB as it attracts a certain type of people who are likely to cause trouble, maybe this is why venues dont do dnb
also i saw a poster for a DnB event in London n it sed “no trainers, hoodies or caps” which i found extremely odd, i dont think the DnB type stereotype exists up here really
February 6, 2008 at 7:40 pm #1211803yeh i tookk the article as a joke really
one thing that i noticed tho is glade (i think?) sed on its site that it doesnt do DnB as it attracts a certain type of people who are likely to cause trouble, maybe this is why venues dont do dnb
also i saw a poster for a DnB event in London n it sed “no trainers, hoodies or caps” which i found extremely odd, i dont think the DnB type stereotype exists up here really
February 6, 2008 at 8:08 pm #1154563down here (particularly Suffolk/Essex) the cops definitely do judge places on the BPM of music
there was this Govt thing in the 90s (before Blair even!) which mentioned that “ecstasy and other drugs may be used in places playing music with fast repetitive beats” Also in this day and age there are a fair few cops around who were once ravers and they are aware of the excesses of the 90s
I’ve seen this at first hand, a few mates of mine have tried to put on legal hard-dance based events in town and the next thing they know the cops are speaking directly to the managers (not even to the promoters) warning them about the “risk of drug use” or once cops have heard the music they are there every hour walking past, hanging around outside looking for mashed people to search of youths to demand ID etc…
DnB and UK Garage / grime / dubstep are associated with “London-based gang culture” (especially after Zest got shot up in ’06), and dance events here are now expected to comply with the London-style management regimes…
I think funky/electro house gets tolerated but because its more a drinking/fashion victim crowd – but a pub/club is someones livelihood and they aren’t gonna risk it, as soon as cops say “jump” most venue owners say “how high?”
Plus there is so much binge drinking even a dance music night is a bit chancy anyway with regard to trouble (unless its done by a free party crew where everyone knows each other) – but a large proportion of East Anglia has been purged of even legal dance music events (whilst studio 3 is an OK venue its a small place and a fair distance away for those in Colchester/Ipswich area!)
February 6, 2008 at 8:08 pm #1211794down here (particularly Suffolk/Essex) the cops definitely do judge places on the BPM of music
there was this Govt thing in the 90s (before Blair even!) which mentioned that “ecstasy and other drugs may be used in places playing music with fast repetitive beats” Also in this day and age there are a fair few cops around who were once ravers and they are aware of the excesses of the 90s
I’ve seen this at first hand, a few mates of mine have tried to put on legal hard-dance based events in town and the next thing they know the cops are speaking directly to the managers (not even to the promoters) warning them about the “risk of drug use” or once cops have heard the music they are there every hour walking past, hanging around outside looking for mashed people to search of youths to demand ID etc…
DnB and UK Garage / grime / dubstep are associated with “London-based gang culture” (especially after Zest got shot up in ’06), and dance events here are now expected to comply with the London-style management regimes…
I think funky/electro house gets tolerated but because its more a drinking/fashion victim crowd – but a pub/club is someones livelihood and they aren’t gonna risk it, as soon as cops say “jump” most venue owners say “how high?”
Plus there is so much binge drinking even a dance music night is a bit chancy anyway with regard to trouble (unless its done by a free party crew where everyone knows each other) – but a large proportion of East Anglia has been purged of even legal dance music events (whilst studio 3 is an OK venue its a small place and a fair distance away for those in Colchester/Ipswich area!)
February 7, 2008 at 6:56 pm #1154577The beat should be 20bpm down to south of france, n i play my dnb between 180 and 200…. wicked study
February 7, 2008 at 6:56 pm #1211809The beat should be 20bpm down to south of france, n i play my dnb between 180 and 200…. wicked study
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