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    elretardo87
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    I got myself a new job in a head shop so I thought Id share my knowledge of the things that are on sale and which ones are worth buying. At the moment we have a huge selection of stuff but thre is a select few that we sell loads of.

    I will update the list as new stuff comes in but……

    Smoking mixes/ganja alternatives:

    Spice – Very similar effects to weed but nowhere near as intense as good skunk, might suit some of the people on here who are looking for an alternative to skunk. Its what I smoke at work as I don’t like all the wet weed thats kicking about. It comes in gold and normal mixes….get the gold its worth the extra few quid. Its more of a high than a stone and kicks in almost immediately after smoking, although those with a high tolerance may have to wait a few mins for it to kick in.

    Sence – We only got this in yesterday so I’ve only smoked a few pipes of it but its a lot stronger than the Spice gold but not quite as strong as good weed. It tastes a bit more like compressed grass but doesn’t look the part. Its a bit harsh to smoke and is more suited to being mixed with tobacco or smoked in a pipe than the spice but its definately gona be my choice for today.Its so new I can’t actually find a picture of it on its own but its the one on the left (the chill stuff is shite btw)

    Uppers:

    London Underground : Doves – We sell tons of these, while the comedown is quite bad its nowhere near as bad as say speed but the up is very intense and rushy and similar to E.

    Exotix : Made by the same people as the Diablos’s but these are supposed to be far less rough in the morning. Lots more of the empathy side of things than the LU doves and less of the rushy feeling. More like MDMA than anything else on the list.

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    Mind Candy: Basically a half strength exotix for those who want to spend the afternoon lying in the sun and having a wicked day and be able to sleep at night.

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    Enjoi Hummers/ Ace of Spades: Same thing different packet. Fucking awesome if you don’t want a headfuck just confidence and energy. Its all natural and no comedown so far (tested a few times now). Start with two and your rocking for a good few hours and top up with the one to prolong the buzz.

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    Sassafras: A plant bark found in the America’s which naturally contains safrole. In its concentrated form safrole is apparently carcinogenic in rodents but no evidence has been found to suggest it is in humans (despite them trying) the real reason they tried to demonise this stuff is that it is a vital step in making MDMA. Anyway if you get teh bark and boil it in milk for 30mins then you end up with a really nice tasting tea that when drunk breaks down to create MDA in your stomach. Its nowhere near as full on as an E but it can be a great way to get back into the swing of things when on an all weekend mission or if you are having a night in with your other half.

    Relaxation:

    Kratom – this is lovely stuff. It provides a mild oopiate like buzz and can be just what you need for a horrible comedown. You mix it in with a yoghurt and munch it down and you will pass out anywhere within 40mins. Obviously the dose is important as is the type of kratom but ask at your local headhop and I’m sure the will explain the difference between them all.

    We stock Balinese Kratom- Which is a lot more of a sedative similar to an opiate. (dose ~ 4-7.5g)

    Maeng Da – Which is super strong and takes far less than any other to get an active
    dose…very uiplifting if you take about 2g. (dose ~ 1.5-2.5g)

    Thai – Similar to the maeng da in that it is more stimulating than mongy but not as
    strong very nice feeling though. (dose ~ 3.5-5g)

    Kratom #1- Very much a sedative effect. Similar to the Bali but a lot stronger.
    (dose ~ 3-5g)

    Valerian: Comes in capsules or tinctures and is an excellent way of getting to sleep on time. Similar effect in high doses to benzo’s and better for your system. Dose varies depending on the form of the original herb, anything from 1g – 3g of raw herb or 0.3g of the extract.

    Blue Lotus: You can stick 15g of this into a bottle of sweet white wine over night and when you drink the bottle with someone. Lovely all over body warm relaxing feeling. Great for watching films or using instead of tobacco in your joints.

    Yellow Poppy Extract/Glaucine: Contains apomorphine, which has very similar effects to actual opiates but is not an actual opiate in itself. Its recreational uses are limited but its mian strongpoint is in battling addiction. It can help stave off withdrawal by elieving smooth muscle spasms (intestine and stomach), acting to suppress coughing (antitussive properties), lowering of blood pressure, and soothing pain by triggering the release of the body’s histamines.

    Hallucinogens:

    Pantherina mushrooms – A millions times better than fly algaric as the samples contain a far more regular muscamol content and therefore are not a complete waste of money. The specimens on sale in shops will already have been properly dried and are safe unlike fresh ones (saving you the hassle)

    Salvia : Needs little explanation but remember that you have to use a blow torch type lighter to get the full effect.

    Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory seeds: Both the same idea (LSA), quite fun but can be very anti-social as it tends to be a very introverted trip.

    Mescaline: This is found naturally in cactii such as the San Pedro, Peruvian Torch and Peyote. It takes a while to prepare (check erowid for the info) but its lots of fun….a very different experience to most hallicinagens and more of a spiritual journey than just a trip.

    Tobacco Alternatives:

    Raspberry leaf: For all you bong heads this stuff is the perfect consistency for making a perfect burning bong mix. Its really fluffy when ground up, almost like a nice bit of weed. It burns really well and tastes of nothing. (Nicotine free)

    Superfoods (basically handy nutriotional things for heavy caners)

    Griffonia: An excellent source of 5htp that I find works better for day to day life. Pure 5htp capsules make me feel like I have takena drug whereas the griffonia seems to be more subtle and equally as effective.

    Noni: This has no end of benefits

    • 1) The Noni fruit seemed to retard tumor growth by stimulating the immune system.
    • 2) The compounds in Noni actually work at the cellular level to cause cell regeneration and increase cell function.
    • 3) Noni was shown to have significant impact on arresting the growth of implanted cancerous RAS cells.
    • 4) It was also shown to have an analgesic effect.
    • 5) It is effective against at least seven different kinds of harmful bacteria.
    • 6) It is a natural antiseptic.
    • 7) It is effective against fungus and parasites.

    Maca root: A handy root from the Andes for those times when you have had too many drugs to have sex it not only gets you up but also gives you twice the drive. For women it is really good for getting you in the mood (not that you ever need an excuse) but can also help balance your hormones and reduce cramps when that time of the month approaches.

    Suma Root: Good for helping boost your immune system and fight off comedown colds as well as giving you the energy to function. Contains 152 different handy compounds including germanium

    Spirulina: Not only is it an excellent antioxidant but Spirulina is higher in protein than any other food. It contains eight essential amino acids and is nature’s richest whole food source of Vitamin E, Beta Carotene, antioxidants, Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA) and chlorophyll. Spirulina delivers impressive amounts of vitamin B12 & B complex, iron and essential trace minerals. Spirulina contains the most remarkable concentration of nutrients known in any food, plant, grain or herb.

    Bee Pollen: Excellent source of vitamin B12 for vegans/vegetarians along with several other handy vitamins and minerals.

    White Willow Extract: White willow bark contains salicin, which breaks down to make salicylic acid in your stomach. Salicylic acid is the precursor to aspirin and has the same effect but without all the nasty side effects. No stomach ulcers and all that jazz….

    Anyhow I’ll update it after work once I give a few things another bash. Obviously all these things we sell not for human consumption and if people decide to take them its their fault if they have a good time 😉 .

    (some of the extra info I have robbed from websites to avoid having to type it up myself but it gets the message across and only the things I can reccomend myself will go up here)

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    JonnyQuest
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    how to the pretend weeds actually work? whats they gots thats not thc?

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    JonnyQuest
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    how to the pretend weeds actually work? whats they gots thats not thc?

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    elretardo87
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    Its difficult to figure out as they try and put as many ingredients on the packet as possible to make it more difficult to ban.

    The main active chemical is a plant extract that is sprayed on at the end so its almost impossible to pick out what it is if you are the government….but we do sell at least 15 bags of the spice gold a day and its what I smoke (mixed with sence) instead of the rubbish wet weed thats floating about at the moment until I get something seriously good in again.

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    elretardo87
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    Its difficult to figure out as they try and put as many ingredients on the packet as possible to make it more difficult to ban.

    The main active chemical is a plant extract that is sprayed on at the end so its almost impossible to pick out what it is if you are the government….but we do sell at least 15 bags of the spice gold a day and its what I smoke (mixed with sence) instead of the rubbish wet weed thats floating about at the moment until I get something seriously good in again.

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    JonnyQuest
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    elretardo87 wrote:
    Its difficult to figure out as they try and put as many ingredients on the packet as possible to make it more difficult to ban.

    The main active chemical is a plant extract that is sprayed on at the end so its almost impossible to pick out what it is if you are the government….but we do sell at least 15 bags of the spice gold a day and its what I smoke (mixed with sence) instead of the rubbish wet weed thats floating about at the moment until I get something seriously good in again.

    a friend of mine baught a load of “legal bud” from camden once when we were 15 and im qutie sure he still has it cause it was worthless but iv heard afew people talk of these things that works how do they smell in comparison to the genuine article?

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    JonnyQuest
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    elretardo87 wrote:
    Its difficult to figure out as they try and put as many ingredients on the packet as possible to make it more difficult to ban.

    The main active chemical is a plant extract that is sprayed on at the end so its almost impossible to pick out what it is if you are the government….but we do sell at least 15 bags of the spice gold a day and its what I smoke (mixed with sence) instead of the rubbish wet weed thats floating about at the moment until I get something seriously good in again.

    a friend of mine baught a load of “legal bud” from camden once when we were 15 and im qutie sure he still has it cause it was worthless but iv heard afew people talk of these things that works how do they smell in comparison to the genuine article?

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    elretardo87
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    The only ones I would reccomend are the ones that I posted up there….we have 5 bags of legal smoking mix that are so shite that we have never sold one….even although he has had 3 shops over 4 years.

    The spice mix tastes very sweet as it has a bit of vanilla and honey in it but it looks like the real deal and the buzz is a lot more of an uplifting high with mild hallucinagenic qualities in large ammounts (I smoke it pure). The best thing about this stuff is you can buy it in single prerolled joints to test it for like £3 rather than spooning all your money on it and deciding you don’t like it.

    The sence tastes like grass (well oldschool herbal cannabis) and has a similar effect, a nice mellow stone, but its a bit harsh to smoke pure in joints.

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    elretardo87
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    The only ones I would reccomend are the ones that I posted up there….we have 5 bags of legal smoking mix that are so shite that we have never sold one….even although he has had 3 shops over 4 years.

    The spice mix tastes very sweet as it has a bit of vanilla and honey in it but it looks like the real deal and the buzz is a lot more of an uplifting high with mild hallucinagenic qualities in large ammounts (I smoke it pure). The best thing about this stuff is you can buy it in single prerolled joints to test it for like £3 rather than spooning all your money on it and deciding you don’t like it.

    The sence tastes like grass (well oldschool herbal cannabis) and has a similar effect, a nice mellow stone, but its a bit harsh to smoke pure in joints.

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    e_babes
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    Could you post costs as well? Im quite interested in the Kratom atm – only because its something new.

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    e_babes
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    Could you post costs as well? Im quite interested in the Kratom atm – only because its something new.

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    elretardo87
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    It depends on where you go and the supplier really.

    Our Kratom is expensive as we get it from friends of the shop who don’t deal in massive bulk (only about 5kg at a time) whereas internet sites can affor dto do it for half the money as they don’t care who they get it from.

    If you want to try Kratom I can grab some at work on monday for you…..for £6.50 I can post you a bag to try of one of the ones we have. (Bali, Maeng Da, THai and Kratom #1)

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    elretardo87
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    It depends on where you go and the supplier really.

    Our Kratom is expensive as we get it from friends of the shop who don’t deal in massive bulk (only about 5kg at a time) whereas internet sites can affor dto do it for half the money as they don’t care who they get it from.

    If you want to try Kratom I can grab some at work on monday for you…..for £6.50 I can post you a bag to try of one of the ones we have. (Bali, Maeng Da, THai and Kratom #1)

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    e_babes
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    Great – lets chat by PM later and I’ll see what I can do.

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    e_babes
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    Great – lets chat by PM later and I’ll see what I can do.

    #1155679
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    elretardo87
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    updated a bit.

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    elretardo87
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    updated a bit.

    #1155680
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    elretardo87
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    more stuff added

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    elretardo87
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    more stuff added

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    Acidfairy
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    I used to take Valerian to help me sleep….. it tastes like shit if you get the liquid extract.. i’d recommend taking tablets…

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    Acidfairy
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    I used to take Valerian to help me sleep….. it tastes like shit if you get the liquid extract.. i’d recommend taking tablets…

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    Raj
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    Can recommend the following:

    Sleep factors [by Michael’s Naturopathic programs] which contain several things and resulted in the best night’s sleep away from home I have ever had :love:

    They werent the cheapest thing on the shelf but most of the others I have tried at some point and they didnt work as well.

    I got mine from the Jan de Vries shop in Edinburgh but I am sure other places stock them.

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    Raj
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    Can recommend the following:

    Sleep factors [by Michael’s Naturopathic programs] which contain several things and resulted in the best night’s sleep away from home I have ever had :love:

    They werent the cheapest thing on the shelf but most of the others I have tried at some point and they didnt work as well.

    I got mine from the Jan de Vries shop in Edinburgh but I am sure other places stock them.

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    elretardo87
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    I duno how much you are paying for them but I can make them up for you fresh and ~£20 could get you 600ish of them. Exactly the same composition as is on the guys site

    #1213086
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    elretardo87
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    I duno how much you are paying for them but I can make them up for you fresh and ~£20 could get you 600ish of them. Exactly the same composition as is on the guys site

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