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November 28, 2006 at 4:59 pm #1039953
Right, here it is:
I love techno, I love raving, I have attended raves that went on for four or five nights in a row and I love listening to loud music, but…
This weekend the new downstairs neighbour had a VERY LOUD party. On friday night/saturday morning he switched off at 6am and at this point I was quite happy for the new neighbour to have a party (everybody has the right to have a good time), even if his taste in music is crap and he had set the system up directly beneath my bed!!
On Saturday the rave continued and before a re-run of the night before I went down to ask when he was going to carry on ’till. The door was answered by a teenager (no older than 15) and another came to the door too. Eventually the geezer came himself (a chav in his 30’s) – he was so fucked he just panicked and said he would turn it down there and then so I went about my business. Five minutes later they were havvin’ it again.
I think I took the reasonable route and went to stay with some friends for the night, but I really wasn’t that happy if I’m honest. The first thing that made me feel uncomfortable was a man in his thirties (possibly late 30’s) having a party where all the guests are teenagers. The second thing was that even when asked in a reasonable way, he just carried on oblivious.
Am I just getting old?
Is it one rule for me and another for the rest of ’em?
What about the whole teenagers thing?
Isn’t it just a matter of respek?What do you lot think? It’s a bit of a quandry!
November 28, 2006 at 5:03 pm #1094886I think when your in a house or flat with people living all around you with various responsibilitys then they should go an party in a club or something instead of being inconsiderate and recking your sleep, so you get a bollocking or wat ever at work the next day.
November 28, 2006 at 6:12 pm #1094887Tell him you don’t mind as long as you get an invite or advance notice of the party…[wait till he is straight again before approaching him and discussing this and be calm when you do it :wink:]
See what he says about it and take it from there.
From personal experience of being the source of the noise rather than the victim I used to go and ring the doorbell/knock on the door and warn anyone I thought would be affected of the party – usually I invited them all to join us and we only did it a few times a year. Other times we did them in other places and they did the same with their neighbours – we never had a problem because our neighbours [or whoevers] always knew we would turn it down if asked to and usually joined us :bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl
November 29, 2006 at 5:17 pm #1094883Cheers Raverbaby – it’s nice to know the yout’ of today rave resposibly too.
Raj – you hit the nail right on the head. Being informed makes a big difference and it’s always nice to know the music will be turned down without a fight.
But…
What about BIG outdoor parties that disturb locals in their homes?
Is there a different rule for rural raves/urban house parties?
November 29, 2006 at 5:41 pm #1094880totallycai wrote:What about BIG outdoor parties that disturb locals in their homes?Is there a different rule for rural raves/urban house parties?
nah, there should still be that idea of respect for the wider community
if a stack is loud enough it can be heard outside the “target area” by people who don’t want to hear it its too loud IMO…
warehouse parties are sometimes less problematic if people pick the right sort of warehouse; even then crews must be very careful as many of the older manufacturing units which have closed down were built quite near to housing areas to minimise travel costs for the workforce.
people get carried away and take the piss and think they have gotten away with it (often because there weren’t enough cops to stop a party) – so they do it again and again; then next time riot cops turn up and close the thing down by force and/or rigs get confiscated… TBH in the early 2000s there was a boom in large raves which pissed off a lot of locals to the point the laws were tightened up again…
OTOH I’ve heard of big raves in certain areas where I also know non-raving locals and they haven’t even realised anything had happened in their own neighbourhood that weekend!
Thats the best way IMO of going about it….
As for the “age” issues I don’t think its a real problem – I’m in my thirties and have a circle of friends from their mid teens to their fifties and beyond all of whom who go raving.. Some people also look way younger than they actually are, some of those “teenagers” could be our sort of age…
November 30, 2006 at 5:46 pm #1094884Thanks for your reply General.
I think you are right on all counts.
Nonetheless, the noisy new neighbour is still ‘avvinit downstairs with accompanyment from an Enthusiastic MC… on a thursday night… after he said it was a one-off!!
Ah well, I’m sure I have pissed off enough people in the past myself (but I know I have even turned down the tunes at an outdoor rave when we got a single complaint… and it stayed down!!)
As for the teenagers, I guess I should just get over it. Even though as a teacher I can spot a pre-15-year-old from a mile off and I have proviously said how cool it is to see kids at raves, I just got a bit weirded out to see a middle aged man with only teenagers for friends. My problem, not his.
Respek!
November 30, 2006 at 6:06 pm #1094881it might be worth a quiet word with him again pointing out that you are or were a raver as well (if he isn’t aware already) and unless you two are the only houses in the street, if you can hear the noise, others can who may be less sympathetic.
if he keeps up with it in most areas it will end up with other neighbours complaining formally to the authorities and the risk of his house being turned over – by both cops and environmental health.
And if he is letting his younger friends use the place to take drugs as well or there is the slightest suspicion he may be “dealing” (and sharing your personal stash with someone is supplying) then he could be in really big trouble – all for making a bit of noise….
December 1, 2006 at 12:42 pm #1094890its whether he is a raver and will understand, or he’s just a dick playing loud music.
December 1, 2006 at 12:55 pm #1094888fruitisbad wrote:its whether he is a raver and will understand, or he’s just a dick playing loud music.Take him on face value and treat him as though he were a sensible human being.
I have found [over many years and many encounters] that going in with no expectations of conflict and treating others [some of whom no one else will speak to] as though they were straight up nice guys with total honesty and civility has produced results others were dumbfounded by.
There is no point in going in expecting aggro – it is a self fulfilling prophecy [lets be honest here – how would you react if someone did it to you? :groucho: ]
December 4, 2006 at 9:30 pm #1094885Unfortunately he is just a dick playing loud music.
I have tried to be reasonable and he just agrees with everything and sais it’ll all be fine, but then continues to be a 2@.
To be honest I wasn’t expecting advice on how to deal with the problem (I am a teacher and a reasonable person) I was just asking if you thought if it is OK to be pissed off with a noisy neighbour when I know I have attended parties that went on for days with lots of complains from locals.
One mate said it’s different when you are in your home, but I reminded him that the locals who have stacks of speakers pointing at their front door (have you seen how close the houses are to the party at Castle Moreton or Smeatharpe?) are also in their homes.
I have come to the conclusion that IS OK for me to be pissed off with the dick downstairs though because at least a big rave only lasts one weekend and they rarely happen in the same place twice. I have to live upstairs from him constantly and he makes false promises before carrying on oblivious.
I am pleased – I can rave with a clean conscience!
December 7, 2006 at 1:24 pm #1094889Having exhausted all reasonable avenues of asking him nicely I think you have every right to be pissed off as he continues to be inconsiderate :groucho:
:get_you::get_you::get_you::get_you::get_you:
December 7, 2006 at 1:36 pm #1094882Raj wrote:Having exhausted all reasonable avenues of asking him nicely I think you have every right to be pissed off as he continues to be inconsiderate :groucho::get_you::get_you::get_you::get_you::get_you:
agreed.. and its people like that idiot who give the dance music scene a bad name..
that said, I also fear that the only reason that popular rave locations don’t get used twice is because Police, other authorities and locals keep an eye on them and lock them down more after the first use….
there are unfortunately now people like the fool that totallycai encountered who own rigs, and have used the same areas/regions over and over again to the point where the cops have not just given them ASBOs but have clamped down on all raves in the area
consider that the Police kept up the pressure on raves throughout summer 2005 and reduced the numbers despite there being a major terrorist attack in London and a big murder case in one area of SE England where raves often occur (they even took officers off the murder case to shut down one event).
This is in the same area where raves were at least endured by locals for 16 years.. I don’t think cops would go to all this trouble unless locals really were getting angry with the aftermath of these events…
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