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  • #1047090
    joshd96320
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      Well since I cant get to sleep I was just thinking how id like to organise an event this summer, (but I lack masses of spare money this summer so it’ll have to be next summer!) so if any east anglian’s are interesting in organising some responsible legals avec moi, drop a line nearer the time! (that rhymes :love:)

      Anyways, during my thinking, I was just wondering how many of you guys have actually or are still involved in organising events, be it legal or non legal..
      I don’t know if anybody has a problem with this so I guess just don’t vote and leave a reply announcing your dismay if you feel that way!

      Enough of my waffling, on your marks, get set, CAST A VOTE!
      :bounce_fl

      #1197386
      Anonymous

        I cant emagine many people wanting to put their hands up to organising ilegal events, or as squat juce would say,

        OB!

        #1197406
        joshd96320
        Participant

          That’s why I just whacked legal and illegal in the same category… nobody will ever know ๐Ÿ˜›
          In my defence, I also mentioned that if you don’t feel comfortable, don’t mention it ๐Ÿ™‚

          #1197396
          MisterDuck
          Participant

            i’ve organised a few legal nights before, not exactly legal raves though, more showcasing local young musicians type nights

            #1197393
            Tank Girl
            Participant

              if it were to be done i guess it’d have to be with a TENS liscence, and i know shit all about this sort of thing as I’m just a punter

              best peeps to ask are glo, raj, GL etc

              #1197407
              joshd96320
              Participant

                @boothy 321250 wrote:

                i’ve organised a few legal nights before, not exactly legal raves though, more showcasing local young musicians type nights

                oo interesting! im all interested in this kinda stuff since i be young and know many musicians… was this like at local pubs etc? tell me more :group_hug

                #1197387
                General Lighting
                Moderator

                  TBH the cops can’t take action on a poll like this as there’s no real evidence.

                  I have freely admitted several times here that i was involved in organising both legal and unlicensed events from 1992-2005; all of which were mostly in the Thames Valley or Met police areas where they know who I am (although even then their officers have twice mistaken me for a French man :laugh_at:)

                  I stopped all involvement in organising illegal raves when I moved to EA in 2006 as I have a respectable career, plus I have some moral misgivings over the way recent events have been organised in this area, the way many people are overdoing the drugs; and the pointless conflict between ravers and cops here. I pay Council Tax in this area and thus the cost of everyones fuck ups comes out of my own pocket!

                  Plus I genuinely do not ever want to do anything what would affect the area badly as I feel I’ve been given “another chance” in life after some bad choices in my youth – I owe it to my family and the local community here to make something decent of my life.. too many blokes my age from the party scene have fucked up big time and I’m determined not to do this..

                  I’m still up for helping organise events where people are going to be safe and have a good time like how people used to not so long ago… I can’t put 90% of my free time into them like before but can still help in various ways…

                  #1197397
                  MisterDuck
                  Participant
                    joshd96320;321254 wrote:
                    oo interesting! im all interested in this kinda stuff since i be young and know many musicians… was this like at local pubs etc? tell me more :group_hug

                    yeah it was at local pubs, one in particular with very supportive owners

                    its a good night definitely, the pub was happy to do it as it filled the place with people spending money, the musicians jumped at the opportunity to gain a bigger reputation and even get on the starting block, and punters enjoyed it. we’d do donations for various charities which raised quite a bit

                    however especially when it became a regular night instead of a “now and then” thing, the police were about. it seems strange but even a relatively low-key night attracted a police presence, and now the said pub is under scrutiny from the council because of reported “underage drinking and drug use” and also “lack of door security”

                    however i’ve rarely seen anything other than the odd spliff being smoked outside, which is inevitable – but there was never any trouble, great atmosphere etc. whereas places in the centre of town get left alone by police despite being majorly agrro pisshead places

                    to be honest this might have just been our local police force, its something to keep in mind when organising events, if your council/police are a bit better than ours they may grant you a license without conditions, unfortunately round here obtaining a license means having to comply with certain conditions, mainly they seem keen on having bouncers operating and a strict ID only entry – for an event they know has bare young people at

                    #1197408
                    joshd96320
                    Participant

                      thats really interesting… im glad you got some success, despite police arriving or whatnot, i bet you’ve done a lot for the younger community… youve tied them together… they’ve all got something in common and something to unite them

                      nice work.. i’ve seen it happen round here attending… all us kids just come together at these nights.. tis fun!

                      im glad you had success!

                      #1197388
                      General Lighting
                      Moderator
                        boothy;321262 wrote:
                        to be honest this might have just been our local police force, its something to keep in mind when organising events, if your council/police are a bit better than ours they may grant you a license without conditions, unfortunately round here obtaining a license means having to comply with certain conditions, mainly they seem keen on having bouncers operating and a strict ID only entry – for an event they know has bare young people at

                        The police are going to be the same ones in my area and they are strict…the Council is Suffolk Coastal which will probably be the same as Ipswich (fairly strict as well) – its in the new Licensing Act that “children” have to be kept “safe from harm” which includes exposure to alcohol and drugs

                        Josh won’t be able to get a TENS in his own name for any event what sells alcohol until he is 18. However an older friend can do so.

                        he events at the Carribean Club have been good but have had “security issues” due to chavs causing unneeded trouble and nicking things – it would be prudent to keep an event small and with trusted friends rather than go for massive stacks and large crowds. Even many of the mainstream events in Norwich
                        have become ticket only to keep the chavs out.

                        #1197409
                        joshd96320
                        Participant

                          @General Lighting 321269 wrote:

                          The police are going to be the same ones in my area and they are strict…the Council is Suffolk Coastal which will probably be the same as Ipswich (fairly strict as well) – its in the new Licensing Act that “children” have to be kept “safe from harm” which includes exposure to alcohol and drugs

                          Yeah if your out late at night in ‘the stowe’ the police will speak to you but theyre generally friendly and they’ve experience, and so arent ruling with an iron fist on the rules, for example, if youve got a load of alcohol, theyll tell you to clear off the streets so they dont have to take it… you can have a chat with em. having said that they will act to protect… but i aint going for alcohol and drugs… its for the music,, and my circle isnt about drugs and ill keep it pretty tightly knit.

                          @General Lighting 321269 wrote:

                          Josh won’t be able to get a TENS in his own name for any event what sells alcohol until he is 18. However an older friend can do so.

                          my brothers / parents could probably sort that out tbh… was speaking to my mum… she’s actually grand with ‘raving’ so that’s a bonus on the legal side.

                          @General Lighting 321269 wrote:

                          The events at the Carribean Club have been good but have had “security issues” due to chavs causing unneeded trouble and nicking things – it would be prudent to keep an event small and with trusted friends rather than go for massive stacks and large crowds. Even many of the mainstream events in Norwich have become ticket only to keep the chavs out.

                          i dislike chavs
                          if/when i do any events, ipswich is a nono, me no likey
                          felixstowe/norwich i guess
                          at least norwich has marginally less chavs..

                          #1197389
                          General Lighting
                          Moderator

                            there is a lot of competition for venues in Norwich from the local crews (especially with them losing the Queen Charlotte due to noise complaints) TBH if you know your local area and any potential venues you’d be better off staying closer to home. Another issue is your friends may not have cars and young drivers under the influence is dangerous anyway so keeping it local is safer for everyone (and greener)

                            Also I think Suffolk Coastal has a lot of businesses dependent on the leisure industry potentially more willing to accept these sorts of events as the recession bites…

                            #1197410
                            joshd96320
                            Participant

                              hmm yeah there are a few halls and pubs that could potentially used… ive just never seen a dance event round here… though ive helped to get quite a few people into it and its spreading… i think everyone would want to give it a try

                              just gotta persuade somebody to take us in!

                              plus, thats a good point about us younger folk having restricted transport!

                              #1197398
                              MisterDuck
                              Participant
                                General Lighting;321281 wrote:
                                young drivers under the influence is dangerous

                                any driver under the influence is dangerous

                                im not saying i’ve never done it, like most people i disagree with it on principle but still do it occasionally

                                that goes for a lot of things… i ate a kit-kat yesterday.

                                #1197399
                                MisterDuck
                                Participant
                                  joshd96320;321284 wrote:
                                  hmm yeah there are a few halls and pubs that could potentially used… ive just never seen a dance event round here… though ive helped to get quite a few people into it and its spreading… i think everyone would want to give it a try

                                  just gotta persuade somebody to take us in!

                                  plus, thats a good point about us younger folk having restricted transport!

                                  you might have difficulty booking halls because (GL can probably confirm this) halls have been booked out in your area under the impression that it’s for a birthday party etc. and actually it’s for a free party

                                  #1197411
                                  joshd96320
                                  Participant

                                    yeah actually ive heard about that

                                    my bro’s band practices at a local hall but i guess thats different init

                                    having said that
                                    i wonder if i could book one out for an actually birthday party that is in effect the same as a mini free party.. not much difference is there
                                    bring a cake and were sorted!
                                    my birthday is in august, my allaby is solid!

                                    #1197390
                                    General Lighting
                                    Moderator
                                      boothy;321291 wrote:
                                      any driver under the influence is dangerous

                                      im not saying i’ve never done it, like most people i disagree with it on principle but still do it occasionally

                                      true, but its in peoples first years of driving when they have younger passengers in the car where the dangers mount up as there’s more peer pressure for risk taking behaviour – I remember this in the 90s with my friends what were into cars and looking back its a miracle most of us made it to our twenties and thirties (and some didn’t, others swapped their drivers seat for a wheelchair) – bear in mind cops didn’t have all the high tech surveillance kit they had today so half the people on the road didn’t even have MOT insurance or licenses..

                                      also there is a lot more alcohol and K consumed on todays rave scene and less stimulants. I wouldn’t advocate being in charge of any form of vehicle (including bicycles!) on drugs or booze but the risk is slightly less with stimulants than with booze or K

                                      #1197405
                                      DaftFader
                                      Participant

                                        i have helped organiz a few privet partys in the past and am helping my friend organise a small legal event (not privet) happeneing some time in the next year in the north east london area … will keep you all posted closer to the time of further details if any one is interested ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        #1197413
                                        acidmunky
                                        Participant

                                          i have helped organise small events in a local pub. the first couple of events were fine, then the police started patrolling outside. then on the day before we were due to hold our 6th do we had a call from the bar manager saying the police had been in saying they would close the bar down if we did another party!!!
                                          So we decided to make it a free party(obviously we couldnt sort another legal venue in time and everyone knew about it). So down to the local quarry we went. Did i mention that i live slap bang in the middle of essex??lol
                                          we had a good night, we packed up and got nicked.

                                          aaaahhhhh the good old days!!

                                          #1197391
                                          General Lighting
                                          Moderator

                                            The impression I get is Essex and Suffolk cops are using the same protocol as the MPS in London called “safe and sound”; and they consider all dance music events to be a risk of trouble including class A drug dealing and knife/gun violence and expect promoters to prepare accordingly.

                                            #1197414
                                            acidmunky
                                            Participant

                                              seems to me that they may as well make any music over a certain bpm illegal!!

                                              #1197400
                                              MisterDuck
                                              Participant

                                                cunts, the lot of them.

                                                i considered the idea of judging the individual policeman and accept that there may be some policemen with the right-idea and who are decent people

                                                however even these decent policeman made an informed decision to join an overall organisation which is oppressive and full of institutional corruption and abuse of power

                                                which invalidates them as a decent person.

                                                #1197392
                                                General Lighting
                                                Moderator

                                                  in my area (same region as josh and acidmunky) its far worse than just the cops – they are just pawns in the game. In part due to a backlash against the perceived excesses of the 1990s, they are being actively lobbied by nimby locals and those with religious or socially conservative views to clamp down on all nightlife, licensed or otherwise; and these puritain views unfortunately have a lot of support.

                                                  If the cops didn’t investigate these events there are plenty enough people willing to complain to their senior officers and the council that “not enough is being done”

                                                  #1197404
                                                  Southcaver
                                                  Participant

                                                    I once tryed to organise a piss up at the local brewery, it was not a success.

                                                    #1197412
                                                    joshd96320
                                                    Participant

                                                      keep up the votes guys its interesting :0

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