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  • #1053698
    Spazhazzard
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    Hey guys, I’m sorry to say that I’m disappearing. Cleaning up my online persona just to make sure there’s nothing for prospective employers to find, as I’ve heard that a good deal of them will thoroughly research you and I’m not willing to take the risk (however small) that they will link this account and me together. Could one of the mods remove the picture that I put up in the photos thread please?

    Thanks for all the laughs, advice and information!
    I’ll keep an eye on the forums and see if there’s ever any meets I might be able to make an appearance at.

    Much love,
    Spaz

    #1257174
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    unfortunately this is true, its only recently I’ve been able to stand down the secrecy on my online personas and even then I now self censor everything I post (though i’m no longer actively involved with anything illegal anyway).

    it may not be that easy for us to find if its older, plus we need to make sure its not been quoted and also avoid mistakes, it would be even worse to remove a photo which someone else wanted and leave yours in, thus harming two people – a good idea would be to locate it and then report your own post, as odd as it may seem. that way we know its the correct one..

    #1257185
    Gylfi Gudbjornsson
    Participant

    Ahh, well fella, it was good to have you with us. I hope you can return soon with tales of victory and conquest.

    #1257182
    thelog
    Participant

    Talke it easy spazz, good luck for the future.

    thelog

    good vibes

    #1257175
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    @NN~Gazatryptamine 491469 wrote:

    Ahh, well fella, it was good to have you with us. I hope you can return soon with tales of victory and conquest.

    no reason why he can’t come back when he is older and in a more stable job (unless he becomes a police officer or joins border force. this sort of thing has happened before). Ironically many employers do not care about your past but if you have done anything controversial which is incompatible with the current job they expect you to put it behind you.

    A lot of young people leave this site when they attend University for this reason (especially if they are finding drugs a distraction and want to pass their course). Most don’t come back these days (some do) , I appreciate times have changed and my generation was lucky.

    #1257186
    Gylfi Gudbjornsson
    Participant

    @General Lighting 491487 wrote:

    no reason why he can’t come back when he is older and in a more stable job (unless he becomes a police officer or joins border force. this sort of thing has happened before). Ironically many employers do not care about your past but if you have done anything controversial which is incompatible with the current job they expect you to put it behind you.

    A lot of young people leave this site when they attend University for this reason (especially if they are finding drugs a distraction and want to pass their course). Most don’t come back these days (some do) , I appreciate times have changed and my generation was lucky.

    Oh of cause, but I want tales of victory and conquest. Like he defeated the moon worn with an all mighty thwack of this broad sword lol

    #1257176
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    we’ll he’s already attended University so we’d want something better than jolly japes of student days anyway….

    #1257187
    Gylfi Gudbjornsson
    Participant

    This is true sir, like a said tale of defeating the moon worm would he splendiferous

    #1257183
    thelog
    Participant

    Nmae change alert!!

    #1257177
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    @NN~Gazatryptamine 491496 wrote:

    This is true sir, like a said tale of defeating the moon worm would he splendiferous

    I glummert lys den slyge spæg
    stod gomrende og glim.
    I børkens dyb stod mamren fjæg
    og bungrede i skim.

    “Vogt dig for Kloppervok, min søn,
    pas på dens tand og klo!
    Hold dig fra fuglen Djubberløn
    og fra den spuge flog!”

    Han tog sit vorpne sværd i hånd
    og søgte fjenden trum,
    Ved tomtetræets smækre vånd
    han ventede så stum.

    Som uffig han i tanker stod,
    den kurpe Kloppervok
    med flammeøjne ret imod
    ham kom og guste spok.

    Men hug på hug! Og sværdfet slog
    så vorpent mod dens hals!
    Dér lå den død; dens hoved tog
    han med sig i gefals.

    “Og, har du fældet Kloppervok?
    Min søs, du est en knog!
    Det er en glamrig dag, og nok
    en spurkel værd, mintro!”

    I glummert lys den slyge spæg
    stod gomrende og glim.
    I børkens dyb stod mamren fjæg
    og bungrede i skim.

    Not quite the moon worm but the Danish equivalent of the Jabberwock. it does however contain ø, æ and å all at once raaa

    Unfortunately a Frisian version of this cannot be found online other than the first two versions (Frisian is one of the more obscure North European minority languages which merges NL, DE, DK, NO as well as Scots and English all into one )

    #1257188
    Gylfi Gudbjornsson
    Participant

    Was gonna say is there an English translation, but I think I’ll do it manually with Google lol

    #1257184
    p0ly
    Participant

    Much love spazy boi

    #1257190
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    @Mighty Minge 491447 wrote:

    Hey guys, I’m sorry to say that I’m disappearing. Cleaning up my online persona just to make sure there’s nothing for prospective employers to find, as I’ve heard that a good deal of them will thoroughly research you and I’m not willing to take the risk (however small) that they will link this account and me together. Could one of the mods remove the picture that I put up in the photos thread please?

    Thanks for all the laughs, advice and information!
    I’ll keep an eye on the forums and see if there’s ever any meets I might be able to make an appearance at.

    Much love,
    Spaz

    Here’s my take – if an employer wants an extremely active, smart, and ideologically sound person, they can employ me.

    If they just want a crappy little “yes” person who never had an original thought, never voiced a criticism and had the initiative of a glove puppet, then there’s plenty of people out there to fit the bill.

    Employers can kiss my arse. Just exploiters. Be your own exploiter, it pays better, the hours are less, and you don’t have to give a toss about PV posts.

    #1257178
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    in reality not that easy for younger folk going for a comparatively junior rôle to get a “self employed” / “freelance” job in anything other than the skilled trades or if they are very lucky something creative or scientific – but often clients then act as “employers” and do the security vetting. for more senior rôles it is commercial suicide for any company to employ yes men/women who hide bad news (even Yanks are wising up to this one!!!) but at the same time its risky to employ someone whose behaviour both inside and outside the workplace makes them a security risk…

    I know loads of self employed folk / freelancers and in reality few of them can afford to turn down work today or take too many risks with their “personal brand image”. The ones who can are old enough to be our dads or granddads and have skills others do not.

    Many of us, particularly those on the Left will be aware of that old fart what kept a shitlist of union activists since the 1970s and escaped the judgement of the Information Commisionner for many years because he did not use a computer and did this all manually! The main guy was an old man of retirement age – he may not have been super rich but could probably have quietly given it up. To carry on shows a level of tenacity and determination. He has since been nicked and his company closed – but even construction firm managers know how to do forum searches.

    That said the bulk I have met don’t normally care about how their employees or contractors spend their weekends, but a young person with too hedonistic a lifestyle (including booze/regularly attending townie clubs) isn’t going to cope well with the demands of the modern industry such as early starts and weekend working. not always that they are really dangerous or come to work blatantly high (most are too smart to do that, and ravers in particular tend to be very good at self regulating these days if they haven’t OD’d or got sectioned by age 21) but even if they start out well the conflicts on their time make them overstretch themselves and they get (genuinely) unwell and have to take time off sick.

    Also for jobs where there is a lot of competition the youths get dobbed in by their own “frenemies”. times have changed these days, folk are more selfish and less loyal.

    the companies and folk what do delve into pasts and judge people to the point of denying them employment, very often aren’t often the ones you think what would do that, whilst others you think would never employ you are often willing to overlook, or even forgive (nothing is ever forgotten in the post internet world).

    #1257191
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    @General Lighting 491823 wrote:

    in reality not that easy for younger folk going for a comparatively junior rôle to get a “self employed” / “freelance” job in anything other than the skilled trades or if they are very lucky something creative or scientific.

    Well, I’m not sure it’s luck. It’s more a case of bloody minded determination to keep going.

    I am somewhat reminded of Churchill’s comment on inspecting the Bletchley Park codebreaking scheme; “I know I told you to leave no stone unturned to get staff – but I didn’t expect you to me so literally.”

    Innovation depends, to some extent, on an unwillingness to accept “the way things are” and come up with solutions that are demonstrably better. That means bucking the system.

    And it is amazing to the extent that the innovators are EXPECTED by “the establishment” to be able to fend for themselves. Put the vast majority of Oxbridge graduates into the role of innovator and they quickly realise that studying books and repeating known formulas does not cut it when coming up with different solutions.

    #1257179
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    true, but in both arts and sciences recent business ideas (often mistakenly imported from foreign lands) have prioritised conformity over innovation – to the detriment of Britain’s leading rôles in all these fields. For instance what has happened to the radio and music industries is fucking horrendous, hence why I get much of my inspiration from both from over the North Sea – ironically there was once a time Germanic people were mocked for conforming too much…

    For a lot of people in their 20s they just want a job with a steady income at least until they find their feet and that is now increasingly hard to get with the pre-employment screening. I’ve noticed it myself in the way younger people behave, contrary to the Dail Fail rantings the ones who tend to “succeed” round here are way less rebellious and more focused than I was at that age. When I speak to 20 somethings at work its like many of them are already middle aged..

    OK I do know young hedonists and party people but they are pushed into the gutter and forced head first down a rabbit hole of self destruction if they don’t wise up and grow up very quickly and this (I don’t think its social engineering conspiracy but a simple clash of cultures and ideas) is way worse than any other region of the UK I’ve lived in or dealt with..

    #1257189
    Gylfi Gudbjornsson
    Participant

    Where I live the only jobs available are highly skilled trades, such as CNC milling, marketing executive, managing director ect…great fun if like me you have no qualifications what so ever.

    #1257192
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    Yeah, but unqualified doesn’t mean no skills. It’s the people that can adapt and provide good service (WHATEVER, I don’t point the finger) who get connected.

    Nobody likes dealing with the sketchy, dodgy people really. If a deal smells wrong, most people will just walk away.

    Mind you, it can cut the other way – sometimes a deal is seen as “too good to be true” and people get suspicious and walk away (paranoia does like to play).

    It’s about finding your niche – finding what YOU like doing, that pays bills, that doesn’t get you into a total dead end.

    Even a cleaning job or shelf stacking can help set you up building a little nest egg for your own “great works”.

    Because a mighty oak was once just a little nut that held their ground. 🙂

    #1257181
    sinner69
    Participant

    @NN~Gazatryptamine 491937 wrote:

    Where I live the only jobs available are highly skilled trades, such as CNC milling, marketing executive, managing director ect…great fun if like me you have no qualifications what so ever.

    then make’em believe that you got whatever they need to hire you…look at the banks and financial sector they think they know about money but the really do not, its a scam and exists only as electronic impulses in a data bank but as long as wagon rolls it is all ok…or is it?

    #1257180
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    ok you need to know your stuff for the CNC milling (although I know this dude in Reading what does it as a hobby) but from what I remember about living there it wasn’t that difficult to blag it as a marketing executive 😉

    my generation and the one before it was the reason they introduced drug testing and pre employment lifestyle screening in the financial sector especially in SE England. Its funny to look back on but just like todays economic depression there has been real collateral damage (like old folk getting completely the wrong pensions and / or delayed payouts because half the admin staff were on acid).

    #1257193
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    It is maybe worth noting that quite a few of the “Chief Executives”/Multinational operators aren’t qualified, and they didn’t do much time at the companies they command.

    They got the job from track record of managing enterprises, small and large, from when they left school age 16. Quite often such managers DON’T trust academics, having come from a different background.

    Mind you, a manager who won’t at least listen first is showing inflexibility – never a good trait in a leader, although of course a boss has to try to stick to decisions and standards.

    There’s a fine line between ignoring “fluff” and ignoring an opportunity. And good ideas are actually everywhere – most people don’t follow their good ideas through, and it’s the people that CAN see good ideas through that can be successful.

    Luck plays a part. A wise person makes as much of their own luck as they can. 🙂

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