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  • #1047205
    Anonymous

    Assuming people off here went and are back okay, how was Frenchtech?

    #1198359
    acidmunky
    Participant

    had a good time, got there thurs night. Was pretty damn big (25000 i think) and i reckon about 60-80 sound systems. heard since that most of the rigs got converscated on the way out. oh yeah, acid in france seems to be very weak!!(a couple of french people told me that acid isnt very popular over there!!)raaa

    #1198351
    Anonymous
    acidmunky;324235 wrote:
    had a good time, got there thurs night. Was pretty damn big (25000 i think) and i reckon about 60-80 sound systems. heard since that most of the rigs got converscated on the way out. oh yeah, acid in france seems to be very weak!!(a couple of french people told me that acid isnt very popular over there!!)raaa

    Yeah I saw online that people were saying it was shite acid wise. Glad you had a good time raaa

    Hope that the rigs get there stuff back okay

    #1198354
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    I suppose its same as a English party these days really, its a good time as long as you aren’t part of a crew and get fuckloads of kit confiscated.. about 2 years ago on the network23 forum (now virtually abandoned and half-destroyed with spam) some French party people were complaining about “greedy profit minded people” selling shit drugs at French raves.

    The French passed their equivalent of the CJA in 2001 but never really enforced it – but then again our CJA wasn’t really enforced until after 2000 and things didn’t get heavy until 2004/05.

    Behind the scenes there is a lot of political beef in France about teknivals – especially the “legal” one in 2006 as what happened is the locals and the landowner didn’t want it but the central Government imposed the teknival on them!

    This would be like there being a disused farm in Breckland (thetford forest area), and all the Norfolk locals being totally against a planned rave there but then Defra in London saying “it is OK for the rave to happen” telling the Norfolk Constabulary not to bust it!

    This might sound like a really good thing if you are a raver – but in modern EU nations everyone has “rights” they can enforce via the Courts and what happened in France is the local Council where the 2006 rave sued the central government and got €30 000 compensation – of which €11 000 was for “undermining the authority of the mayor”.

    Because that council won the case, every other council in France dug their heels in and banned all raves over May Day holiday and so any party would have to have been a illegal rave…

    #1198355
    General Lighting
    Moderator
    photographthesun;324239 wrote:
    Yeah I saw online that people were saying it was shite acid wise. Glad you had a good time raaa

    Hope that the rigs get there stuff back okay

    I think the English got mostly left alone but thats because in any nation its complicated for cops to deal with foreigners committing crimes because of extra paperwork, different ID rules and language/cultural barriers (the ecact same reason some people whinge about foreigners “getting away with stuff” here…)

    #1198352
    Anonymous

    Have rigs been confiscated at other tech’s? and do you know if they ushally get returned?

    What a complex situation, I dont really understand why the goverment imposed the teknical, but im certainly not surprised people werent happy about it! I think rig owners must be bloody mad or brave or god knows what, risking all that expensive kit getting confiscated. I guess it cant happen tooo much otherwise rigs would just stop going out?

    #1198356
    General Lighting
    Moderator
    photographthesun;324244 wrote:
    Have rigs been confiscated at other tech’s? and do you know if they ushally get returned?

    I think this is the first time rigs have been taken at the large (semi legal) teknivals. I think one got bust in the 1990s and stuff confiscated but it was “more illegal” then (more complex French legal stuff!). Between 2000(?) and 2007 all teknivals in France were tolerated by the government – they even had a socialist government until 2006 and their “minister for youth” approved the raves!

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    What a complex situation, I dont really understand why the goverment imposed the teknical,

    not sure myself, perhaps the new centre right prime minister “sarkozy” was trying to be “down with the yoof…”, he is not popular with them and there were riots since 2005

    There is a misconception we have in England that French “have more rights/stand up for themselves”. they are certainly more passionate about protesting etc, but the govt will be very hard when it wants to and force their point across (this is also how things like nuclear power stations get built despite protests)

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    but im certainly not surprised people werent happy about it! I think rig owners must be bloody mad or brave or god knows what, risking all that expensive kit getting confiscated. I guess it cant happen tooo much otherwise rigs would just stop going out?

    France has a law like TENS but often with less paperwork (I think this is supposed to be a EU standard) so smaller parties with up to 500 people where there is no environmental damage are left alone. A major difference with France is that it is big so space is less of an issue…

    And of course just as in other nations, some crews may also support themselves via drugs sales. why do you think all that smack and other drugs (as well as several thousand euros of cash seized from dealers I saw mentioned in another report) was found by the gendarmes?

    #1198358
    Tek Offensive
    Participant

    just got back, desperately need a bath…

    respect to all the uk rigs that went, main uk linkup fucking smashed it. first proper foreighn teknival ive been to and definitely not the last.

    shame rigs got confiscated, but saw many make it out ok today, will have to wait and see what people say in the next few days to see how many.

    the whole thing was a proper spectacle, the lights and systems and sheer scale were alot more than anything ive seen before. even a rig with huge flames shooting from the top. im sure nuff videos will be up soon.

    now for bed :bounce_flraaa

    #1198353
    Anonymous
    Tek Offensive;324253 wrote:
    the whole thing was a proper spectacle, the lights and systems and sheer scale were alot more than anything ive seen before. even a rig with huge flames shooting from the top. im sure nuff videos will be up soon.

    now for bed :bounce_flraaa

    Does sound bloody good!

    #1198357
    General Lighting
    Moderator
    Tek Offensive;324253 wrote:
    shame rigs got confiscated, but saw many make it out ok today, will have to wait and see what people say in the next few days to see how many.

    I expect not all the rigs would be taken – confiscated rigs and vehicles need to be put somewhere, and shitloads of paperwork filled in (from the film I saw it appeared the French cops were even more meticulous about this than British ones). Eventually they will run out of resources.

    bear in mind also that they will have their own “local intelligence files” and must have certain targets in mind they want to nick more than others, such as crews/people suspected also of drug dealing, so there may be priorities as to which ones are targeted first.

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