just checked some other news reports – the 30 year old man is allegedly the “organiser” and has been charged with “culpable homicide” ( a charge which could result in a prison sentence of some years 🙁 )

it has also been reported in specialist press for the Emergency Services – and will no doubt be used by authorities EU-wide as another reason to say “why raves should not happen”..

Unfortunately I do not speak dutch so any extra news from those who do and have access to their own local media will be welcome! At least the authorities are not linking it with the ongoing civil conflict in the Netherlands.

This incident is a tragedy to those hurt and killed; out of respect for them we must learn from it and do everything possible to minimise risks at all rave events (licensed ones can often have as many fire hazards).

The gory details of what could happen..

1. First blue light service to arrive if not the Police calls for Police backup (clamining potentially hostile crowd on drugs)

2. Police declare “major incident protocol”

3. TSG units arrive en-masse and clear site of all non-injured (using batons, dogs, CS if required)

4. Fire and Rescue/Ambulance receive clearance to enter premises. Hazards (fire, damageed area) made safe – Dead/Wounded evacuated and dealt with by standard NHS procedures – this will only happen BTW after cops say it is OK – and any delay will be blamed on “hostile ravers blocking emergency services 🙁 “

5. Police cordon off area and declare “crime scene” (just like on the movies, blue and white tape, people in “space suits”)

6. If organisers not arrested at scene (usually those nearest to the rigs or playing records) they will be nicked when they try to claim back their equipment (assuming its still in one piece)

They could potentially face charges of involuntary manslaughter (if there were deaths) – couldn’t find a “criminal negligence” law in my books but the “no ents license” law has a max penalty of £20,000 and prison time – there is a already precedent in Essex of prison time handed down to a promoter who used a dangerous building (and this without any injuries)

Cops or CPS may also pass on details to victims families of how to make a civil claim against the promoter. The stress of the incident would have probably ended many friendships and relationships already, the lawyers would be just waiting to pick up on this. (think of the fees!)

There would be no easy way out of this one unless someone was prepared to abandon their rig, their vehicle and even their friends some of whom may be dead or injured.

Nasty stuff? Yes indeed. A good reason to make sure buildings are as safe as they can be…

Jesus!! thats bad someone died, I don’t really like warehouse raves cos shit like that can happen all too easily if peeps ain’t careful.

At least if we go to one now i think its a good idea to take a few fire extinguishers along in the car just in case eh:wink:

I can see this thread is 3 years old..

Are people not more aware of the danger now ,or is it the same ?

I would think people learn from things like this or maybe not..