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  • #1049709
    Avatarsuffolkravas
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    I need to get back over to that side of the sea >.< I hope the free party scene is still alive and well? Last I heard you guys were going through some sketchy shit with OB, but that was back in '07 so I have no idea how things are going now. Coming back to visit soon anyway! :bounce_fl

    #1229197
    AvatarDaftFader
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    Ello mate. long time ๐Ÿ˜€ where is it that you are atm? US of A?

    #1229192
    Avatarsuffolkravas
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    @DaftFader 399056 wrote:

    Ello mate. long time ๐Ÿ˜€ where is it that you are atm? US of A?

    Yep, good ol’ LA, home of the crackheads and movie stars. Just had a mate visit from London and it’s gotten me completely homesick for England. I’ve been away for almost 3 years now without visiting, and that’s a bit much for me to be comfortable with.

    #1229198
    AvatarDaftFader
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    @suffolkravas 399058 wrote:

    home of the crackheads and movie stars.

    Same thing isn’t it? :laugh_at:

    When you coming back over? I think there’s a small PV meet up in london around the 24th? nov.

    #1229193
    Avatarsuffolkravas
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    @DaftFader 399060 wrote:

    Same thing isn’t it? :laugh_at:

    When you coming back over? I think there’s a small PV meet up in london around the 24th? nov.

    I’d love to make it out for that if I can, it’s mainly a financial issue right now. Even though I’ve heard your economy has been fucked just as hard, we are getting hurt really bad in the job-department of any industry you could think of.

    But I should make it out there eventually, definitely by next summer is where I’m setting my goal. Been itching to get some actual jungle out of my system and kick it with some good dirty people in the mud and the rain! All we get out here is dubstep, electro house, jump-up, clubs, and heatwaves! Not my scene to be quite honest! I loves me some rain and gloom :love:

    #1229199
    AvatarDaftFader
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    Haha well alot of dubstep here too atm .. alltho there are ofc other things ๐Ÿ˜‰

    And yes loads of rain. ๐Ÿ™

    #1229188
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    Its legals or nothing now in East Anglia. There was Waveform and Unity Tribe but its now cops, sniffer dogs and an atmosphere of only being grudgingly endured despite forking out loads of money simply to be there.

    its not just the cops but the whole of society has turned against the electronic dance music scene and next its the normal townie places what are going to be shut down. You are better off going to London or Up North for dance music events as these areas depend on the money from them now. The biggest irony is because EA makes a lot of easier money from traditional family tourism especially coast and countryside the music scene (including mainstream pop music!) is often more hassle than its worth as it attracts more crime.

    Normal folk are becoming ashamed to even drink alcohol or stay out too late here, or they are just too tired from their day jobs to bother with socialising.

    This time round the economic depression has made things worse, “they” always find money for cops and social control whatever happens and because of the 1990s and how stubborn people are in EA they won’t forgive and forget what happened last time raves were popular.

    #1229194
    Avatarsuffolkravas
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    @General Lighting 399067 wrote:

    Its legals or nothing now in East Anglia. There was Waveform and Unity Tribe but its now cops, sniffer dogs and an atmosphere of only being grudgingly endured despite forking out loads of money simply to be there.

    its not just the cops but the whole of society has turned against the electronic dance music scene and next its the normal townie places what are going to be shut down. You are better off going to London or Up North for dance music events as these areas depend on the money from them now. The biggest irony is because EA makes a lot of easier money from traditional family tourism especially coast and countryside the music scene (including mainstream pop music!) is often more hassle than its worth as it attracts more crime.

    Normal folk are becoming ashamed to even drink alcohol or stay out too late here, or they are just too tired from their day jobs to bother with socialising.

    This time round the economic depression has made things worse, “they” always find money for cops and social control whatever happens and because of the 1990s and how stubborn people are in EA they won’t forgive and forget what happened last time raves were popular.

    It’s a shame really, but you can’t entirely blame society for being against us. I can’t even convey how many times I’ve been at parties where a group of kids will just stomp down a chain-link fence and put bricks through warehouse windows, and even throw them at the police when they come to tell us it’s time to stop. Even things like This Video taken at the last party I ever attended in the UK just make us look like villains and criminals to the public eye. So we can’t entirely blame society for being squares or what have you, it’s just that when a group of people come about a good thing that gives them a certain amount of freedom, the tendency is to push it to its furthest limits until it gets snatched right back away :-/

    #1229189
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    a group who attack the old bill station because their vehicle has come up on index for being known for metal theft would be viewed as criminals even in the most liberal of countries! even so, people possibly linked to them were allowed to hold Unity Tribe… thats not exactly the work of overly controlling authorities IMO….

    there’s loads of other heavy stuff happening worldwide (not just economic depression but resource shortages) so people are going to have to balance fun with their other work/social duties a bit better than they did in the days of abundant energy and money…

    #1229201
    Avatarjoshd96320
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    very optimistic posts gl :laugh_at:

    #1229190
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    Its the unfortunate truth. Things really have gone bad in just 3 years. I’m actually lucky because I’m older and got a house/career etc sorted and can tolerate a less hedonistic lifestyle (I do miss the parties)…

    whats more worrying is it seems the groups of younger friends I know have drifted apart over the last 3 years and for some of them they really have had some bad setbacks in life and some have made it worse by overdoing the drugs.

    On a wider note suffolkravas will be safer in Suffolk than LA when things really go to shit.. at least we’ve got the remnants of social welfare provisions and less nutters with guns.

    #1229202
    AvatarBuzz
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    the scene in england is so different to up here…..we never get anywhere near that ammount of hassle with the police. thats probably more to do with tighter restrictions on who is told about the parties though. the police can be dicks sometimes sure, but its about mutual respect, if your not causing a problem then most of the time the police will leave you alone.

    #1229191
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    @Buzz 399138 wrote:

    the scene in england is so different to up here…..we never get anywhere near that ammount of hassle with the police. thats probably more to do with tighter restrictions on who is told about the parties though. the police can be dicks sometimes sure, but its about mutual respect, if your not causing a problem then most of the time the police will leave you alone.

    the Scots ravers seem to be more of a genuine community than just a bunch of kids with access to cars, a lot of drugs/equipment and spare cash. However, Scotland is also much less densely populated than England and the parties are held in very remote areas indeed (I’ve seen a few online maps of the areas :wink:)

    Even English crews used to have this mutual respect but people got complacent during the “good times” of 2003 onwards (a combination of more abundant resources and particularly good weather).

    #1229195
    Avatarsuffolkravas
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    @General Lighting 399137 wrote:

    On a wider note suffolkravas will be safer in Suffolk than LA when things really go to shit.. at least we’ve got the remnants of social welfare provisions and less nutters with guns.

    Well said ๐Ÿ™‚

    #1229203
    AvatarBuzz
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    @General Lighting 399139 wrote:

    the Scots ravers seem to be more of a genuine community than just a bunch of kids with access to cars, a lot of drugs/equipment and spare cash. However, Scotland is also much less densely populated than England and the parties are held in very remote areas indeed (I’ve seen a few online maps of the areas :wink:)

    Even English crews used to have this mutual respect but people got complacent during the “good times” of 2003 onwards (a combination of more abundant resources and particularly good weather).

    I dont know if i can really speak for the “scottish raver community” because the group of people i party with is pretty tight knit so theres less possibility of something happening because everyone knows each other. i dont like the sound of the english scene at all, gang problems and shit? no thanks. as far as location is concerned one of the spots we have parties is like 100 yards from a police station (one of the big county hq’s)

    #1229200
    Avatarp0ly
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    @Buzz 399185 wrote:

    “scottish raver community”

    I’m singiiiiing (dancing) in the raaaain
    :laugh_at:

    #1229196
    Avatarsuffolkravas
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    @p0ly 399191 wrote:

    I’m singiiiiing (dancing) in the raaaain
    :laugh_at:

    Hahaha! Pretty much sums up every Scottish party I’ve ever been to, lol!

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