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    joshd96320
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    Pensioner runs over OAP and smashes through shop front after slamming accelerator instead of brake | Mail Online

    “Pensioner runs over OAP and smashes through shop front after slamming accelerator instead of brake”

    :crazy:

    This is why old people shouldnt bloody drive or should take another test!! :crazy:

    #1204057
    MisterDuck
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    i think they should. there is certainly a fair few old drivers who imo shouldn’t be on the roads.

    however, at the same time by no means should we just pull the only means of transport (for many) from them.

    the answer lies in public transport. and here comes the rant.

    public transport is a necessity. we are facing a environmental crisis and now understand the urgent need for the change in how we use natural resources and what we pump into our atmosphere. blah blah blah we all knows it.

    so why the fuck is it such a dire state. it is not down to the individul to sacrifice their everyday ease of life in order to go “green”, it’s the governments job to offer feasible, competent and affordable alternatives. the privatisation of the railways is disgusting.

    all public transport needs to be nationalised. it needs to reach everybody and be a price which either makes it considerably less expensive than running a car, and more convenient. i’d go one step further and argue that it should be free.

    for environmentalism
    end our reliance on the oil trade (im not gonna go into how many foreign policy issues tht would solve)
    for people.

    fuck new labour. that haven’t got the right to use the word “labour” anymore. selling off our welfare state. bad as the tories.

    sob a tear for the socialist left boys and girls.

    #1204060
    joshd96320
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    impressive rant

    but yeah they should retake their test, but its not just them (mainly them) there should be like an every 10 years test.

    plus this stuff shouldnt cost a stupid amount, and also passports theyre fuckin expensive too.

    they should stop wasting money. put money into stuff we NEED like transport and some half decent energy solutions that are eco friendly, and allow privatisation of less pressing matters and services

    #1204058
    MisterDuck
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    i don’t really agree with privatisation of anything else mate. the only things left even half-nationalised are public services, and as far as i’m concerned they should never have been privatised in the first place. i suppose i’d like to see single entity of everything owned by the people, but unlike many a marxist, i tend to believe in socialism through reform rather than through a revolutionary “uprising of the proletariat” as he puts it.

    aside from political theory, just to put things in perspective:
    the renewal of trident that new labour is pressing ahead with will cost £90 billion. which is more than we spend on the NHS in a whole year.

    each year trident costs 1.5billion
    replacing trident will cost around £21 billion

    now it seems incredibly immoral, and quite frankly absurd and twisted that we are spending this amount of money on a nuclear weapons programme that if ever unleashed would cause untold suffering worldwide, instead of being pumped into the NHS, education, or public services… those things what actually help people, instead of kill or threaten.

    #1204061
    joshd96320
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    i dont think its feasible that everything can be nationalised, there has to be competition for innovation i believe… i dont think they could manage it all either lol.

    so i think just the most important services at least or in priority should be nationalised

    nuclear weapons, eugh, it sickens me, its a vicious circle, now it has began, nobody can stop stockpiling and developing or they will fall behind in the game. the only way is for everyone to get rid of their nuclear weapons. but that wont happen.

    #1204062
    joshd96320
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    ps, those nuclear weapons i doubt will be used. they are just a big expensive scare crow

    #1204059
    MisterDuck
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    @joshd96320 342793 wrote:

    i dont think its feasible that everything can be nationalised, there has to be competition for innovation i believe… i dont think they could manage it all either lol.[/quote]

    its not feasible overnight but i am talking about a longterm progression of society, and many things need to change.

    “compettition leading to innovation” is the argument behind neoliberalism and free market fundamentalism. otherwise known as capitalism.

    however the idea of true nationalisation is that a government in a democracy is always accountable to the people, and that is the drive for innovation – to get re-elected, basically.

    however in order to achieve this we need to change our democracy – yes things have changed, everyone can vote etc. however politics is still owned and operated by the rich. the wealthiest parties can run the largest campaigns, and politics isn’t made accessible and open to the working population for a reason.

    essentially dictatorship of the proletariat.

    “The term does not refer to a concentration of power by a dictator, but to a situation where the proletariat (the working class) would hold power and replace the current political, economic and social system controlled by the bourgeoisie (the propertied class). In short, the “dictatorship of the proletariat” would replace the current “dictatorship of the bourgeoisie”; the crucial distinction being that while the bourgeoisie is by definition a minority, the proletariat is, similarly, always the majority.”

    i know im going into marx theories again, i am somewhat of a marxist, some things engels has said i disagree with though.

    but in that system nationalisation of everything will work. because essentially it’d be owned by the people, because the people would really own the state, not just in theory as it is now. but that’s probably thousands of years away.

    “classless, stateless and moneyless communist society” sounds like utopia to me. bearing inmind the stateless. communism in its true form is by the people, not instilled by some murderous dictator. we’ve never seen true communism, only excuses to be totalitarian.

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    nuclear weapons, eugh, it sickens me, its a vicious circle, now it has began, nobody can stop stockpiling and developing or they will fall behind in the game. the only way is for everyone to get rid of their nuclear weapons. but that wont happen.

    exactly, but i’d like to think of britain as being a more progressive country than the americas of this world starting the ball rolling. the thing is we need to stop consorting with the americas of this world otherwise we won’t do that. the time will come when europe needs to take a stand, i am fairly euro-sceptic with regards to the EU (not the idea of the EU, i just believe it needs massively changing, it is undemocratic and a bureaucracy imo) but with regards to warmongering, EU could need to be the calming voice.

    #1204063
    joshd96320
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    i can sympathise with the ideology and theory of marxism but im not sure i believe it could ever be realised.. i think some class differences (but perhaps not so radical) can encourage creativity between classes… well not creativity, its kinda hard to describe… more ‘texture’.

    kinda late to be putting my thoughts into words…

    a comment on the last paragraph, i dont think that will happen soon lol, england is americas little bitch

    #1204056
    leveret
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    probably had his headphones on and accidentally pressed the “loud” pedal …

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