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    DaftFader
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      LEAKED: Contracts and performance perks of your favorite EDM artists.EDMsnob

      Deadmau5 (amongst other things) asks for …

      1 bottle of premium champagne (Veueve Clicquot or Bollinger)

      and

      1 bag of cheese strings

      :weee:

      #1254906
      p0ly
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        #1254891
        General Lighting
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          Not really my taste and nor is his music (he is French, and slightly older than me so grew up in the heyday of Euro-pop cheese which explains a lot) you can buy a great deal of that tat from CPC Farnell these days (alongside some reasonable equipment to be fair). Its not even that expensive!

          This (and the less pleasant practice of co-workers those DJ’s are supposed to be able to trust leaking what is confidential information to the tabloid media) has only recently occured because some states of the USA are tolerating EDM events a lot more as the folk putting them on are willing to stump up the cash that the authorities ask for, and there isn’t really as much of a public sector in the USA as in Europe.

          At present these more liberal areas of the USA is remain affluent enough to pay for these folk to come over from Europe at the same time that European nations are clamping down on large EDM events – and as DJ’s are used to foreign travel its not surprising many of the ones my age group try and get this sort of things, especially as most of them are smart enough to realise that this sort of “pop star lifestyle” won’t last forever. I notice a lot of the trance chaps just concentrate on the sound equipment at the venue..

          #1254907
          p0ly
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            Do they not mention the coca on the official documents then i take it.

            #1254892
            General Lighting
            Moderator

              last time someone in the USA tried anything of the sort (and he was from a computer company, not even the entertaintment industry) he was dragged out of his office by armed feds soon afterwards and accused of not just drugs offences but false accounting and all sorts! He managed to get off the charges but don’t forget there is a very strong puritan/conservative element in the USA with real power.

              #1254893
              General Lighting
              Moderator

                dude what wrote the blog (though for some reason I always though it was a girl writing for many months!) closed it down and even posted his full personal details (though he is clearly also looking for a media career/book deal)

                Apparently a few people got sacked due to his exposés (he is concentrating on uni now). This doesn’t surprise me as I always thought the USA “EDM boom” would burn out quick as everyone would try and make money out of it (André Tannebaum also hinted at this but in a very diplomatic way) in a similar way to what happened in the UK over a decade ago….

                the book could be interesting but if a 23 year old chap has already got enough info to fill it (and I don’t disbelieve him, he is a good writer and better than most reporters on that scene including the British ones what also got contaminated by American overoptimism) that just shows how quickly it is burning itself out (as a contrast the folk writing books on the British dance music scene are normally older than me..)

                The End of EDMsnob –

                #1254911
                Pat McDonald
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                  @General Lighting 484466 wrote:

                  … but don’t forget there is a very strong puritan/conservative element in the USA with real power.

                  Every 4th July I have a private celebration called “Thank God the Puritans have left”.

                  On topic; hey, being an artist is about creating art (performance/audio/visual/sculpture/architecture) and being rewarded for it. If big artists get big perks, fair play to them.

                  “You don’t ask, you don’t get.” Usually. If we all developed telepathy (or at least empathy) skills then it might not be such an issue.

                  #1254912
                  Izbeckistan
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                    @DaftFader 484435 wrote:

                    LEAKED: Contracts and performance perks of your favorite EDM artists.EDMsnob

                    Deadmau5 (amongst other things) asks for …

                    and

                    :weee:

                    I thought the fight deadmouse had with Madonna was hilarious. He also through a paddy at rusko for skinning up backstage (deadmause is hardcore straightedge and hates it when people associate EDM with drugs)

                    #1254894
                    General Lighting
                    Moderator

                      @Izbeckistan 499919 wrote:

                      deadmause is hardcore straightedge and hates it when people associate EDM with drugs)

                      a lot of producers that “positive spin” but its like claiming that the USA, Britain and other rich European nations don’t send soldiers to fuck around in other peoples countries merely so they can get oil for cheap and make up this story that its “positive régime change”.

                      At least AVB says “I don’t do drugs but if people do its up to them”. if it wasn’t for drugs especially MDMA the EDM scene would not exist, even if not everyone takes them any more.

                      #1254902
                      cheeseweasel
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                        I’ve got tons of these things on my hard drive, and really the ones on that website are pretty normal. A crate of premium lager and bottle of vodka/whiskey/rum are standard on most riders, as are towels (they often seem to want about 10 each for some reason). Other common items include lemons (I think singers eat/drink them before the show), odd food requests (I’m looking at one now that asks for 2 roast chickens and 2 cans of tuna) and incense (probably to mask the smell of weed).

                        #1254895
                        General Lighting
                        Moderator

                          yep and the sound equipment is fairly standard too. Also as interesting as this all might be, if some toerag leaked any part of my confidential work details/staff record to a blog or the Press there’d be hell to pay and my employers would have no problem with giving a full statement to the feds at martlesham heath and having the culprit brought before the Courts. This is probably why the lad closed down his blog (though he’s already got the book deal anyway it seems)

                          I think its all well and good to expose things like excessive and inappropriate use of recorded/prepared content in a “live” performance, and bad/abusive practices by star talent (dead or alive) but outside of the public performance they should have the same privacy as any other worker.

                          #1254903
                          cheeseweasel
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                            This is the reason why, as much as I’d like to post them on here, I won’t. Actually the most shocking thing about the contract is usually the price on the bottom of it, rather than the rider!

                            #1254896
                            General Lighting
                            Moderator

                              the impression I get though is the economic depression is finally catching up with what remains of the “creative industries” – for instance although the production quality of new trance is better than ever they aren’t making the high budget videos what used to go with the tunes in the 2000s (as there aren’t many outlets to show them, MTV Europe has been highly downsized and shifted into Poland or somewhere like that instead of TVAM building)

                              Also the newer artists seem to have way less kit in their studios (OK there’s VSTs and computers, but I’d expected Ørjan Nilsen to have way more gear (maybe its the North European minimalist ethos).

                              Some are even using their laptops for making tunes “on the run” between gigs when I would have thought they’d prefer a full size studio – I only use a laptop at work or at home when I have to as I prefer full size keyboards/controllers and other kit..

                              Certainly even ID&T is reporting less punters at their events in NL than ever before, and the Dutch radio stations are moving away from underground dance genres back towards commercial dance and even piratenhits (Dutch language pop songs which are based on traditional Teutonic oompah music. I listen to them more for language practice than the musical content, though admit that I am starting to like it a bit :laugh_at:)

                              #1254904
                              DaftFader
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                                I heard an interview with DJ rap and she was saying that she prefers to make music on her laptop on the go. If she makes it at home, she just plugs a bigger monitor into her laptop and adds a keyboard. I think with the boom in people using software synths nowdays, this kinda producing is very viable.

                                #1254897
                                General Lighting
                                Moderator

                                  also there is way more pressure to produce new tracks quickly, I must get about 10 emails every week from juno and I’ve only got uplifting/progressive trance on there, then yet more soundcloud incomings and some of these are from the big trance labels as well as the new artists.

                                  There’s definitely a much smaller commercial EDM scene in Britain, as nearly the whole East Coast is devoid of events compared to when I first moved here and that was only 2006…. and Holland’s scene is being (slightly) downsized, this is something you only unearth if you read the Dutch media news sites though.. of course EDM won’t disappear any more than music would as a whole but out of the current “household names” I think they are the last and after them people following them will be doing it as a hobby (though maybe covering expenses) and having another normal day job.

                                  I’ve seen comments on the Grauniad music blog and other places by former producers from the 90s and they are all working as IT techies and other similar jobs now..

                                  #1254908
                                  p0ly
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                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtkFDq1piig

                                    DEADMAU5 IS ONE SEXY GUY!!…. *COUGH*

                                    #1254901
                                    thelog
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                                      Dead mice and David Guieta {Can’t spell} are BFF’s with Paris Hilton according to th grape vine, thats why Miss hilton thinks she is a DJ. No matter how good you tunes are, hanging around with that trash bag must kill your respect from your listeners

                                      #1254898
                                      General Lighting
                                      Moderator

                                        deadmau5 looks like someone from Stow on a night out in Jokers.

                                        TBH half the “EDM” these lot play is pop dance (and even real eurodance is better) and its simply like America suddenly discovered the late 1990s. its only confined to a small part of a big country, it will come down with a big crash (this is why some of the performers are doing fake sets and just going through the motions and other decent folk like ATB have warned the Yanks of the risks of just trying to ape Europe at 4 x speed (especially the UK))

                                        I just hope that none of our American users are at a EDM event when not if, either gangs or the feds decide not to play nice. Things like that already happened in the UK but on a smaller scale as our venues aren’t as big and folk don’t thankfully have access to as many weapons..

                                        #1254913
                                        MR207
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                                          Deadmau5 is sexyyyyy, but skrillex ooohhh it’s a tough choice

                                          #1254914
                                          MR207
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                                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]82881[/ATTACH]

                                            MY DREAM GUYYYY<3

                                            #1254915
                                            MR207
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                                              #1254905
                                              DaftFader
                                              Participant

                                                @MR207 500159 wrote:

                                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]82881[/ATTACH]

                                                MY DREAM GUYYYY<3

                                                poor guy’s got alopecia. 🙁

                                                #1254909
                                                p0ly
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                                                  i saw deadmau5 before he was famous in 2007 or 8 and tbf he did a fucking banging set.

                                                  some of his tunes are fat just sadly he makes the same old shit over n over..

                                                  #1254910
                                                  p0ly
                                                  Participant

                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4ygKrEdVA

                                                    Thing is the the dude mainly only makes good remixes… and if deadmau5 is sexy maddy, then i’m a fucking god

                                                    #1254916
                                                    MR207
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                                                      @p0ly 500175 wrote:

                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4ygKrEdVA

                                                      Thing is the the dude mainly only makes good remixes… and if deadmau5 is sexy maddy, then i’m a fucking god

                                                      Haha I was kidding so I guess that doesn’t make you a god after all 😉

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