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    Tank Girl
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    WTF??

    anyone else watching??

    discuss……

    #1208867
    Tank Girl
    Participant

    fucking wrong wrong wrong!!!!

    #1208869
    Tank Girl
    Participant

    children wanting sex changes??

    the fucking parents are wrongun and fucking these children up

    – how can a child decide something like this??

    giving your kids hormones ??

    life altering and non reversable…….. :hopeless:

    not right

    whats the rush? wait until your an adult – if this is still your decision then..

    #1208870
    Tank Girl
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    #1208887
    p0ly
    Participant

    errrrrrm this sounds pretty disturbing

    #1208889
    p0ly
    Participant

    wow just wow…

    #1208872
    Tank Girl
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    I’m sorry but the parents of these kids R fucked up!!!!

    and either spoke for the children, took far too much interest in it, or were putting words into the childrens mouths – I mean a ‘mother’ talking to a doctor about an 11 yr old wanting to freeze eggs as the child wants a family when older – i dont ever remember thinking about whether to have kids or not at 11 myself??!!

    aged 8 I was climbing trees, dressing like a ‘boy’ and playing with trucks, my parents didnt seem to think I was a boy…..they just let me get on with it – as what children play with / dress like doesnt stereotype their fucking sex!!!

    I really disagree with these parents on this documentary making choices for the children and not letting them get on with their lives and waiting til they are old enough to make their own choices – this is non reversable stuff !!!

    #1208894
    Buzz
    Participant

    @Tank Girl 357412 wrote:

    I’m sorry but the parents of these kids R fucked up!!!!

    and either spoke for the children, took far too much interest in it, or were putting words into the childrens mouths – I mean a ‘mother’ talking to a doctor about an 11 yr old wanting to freeze eggs as the child wants a family when older – i dont ever remember thinking about whether to have kids or not at 11 myself??!!

    aged 8 I was climbing trees, dressing like a ‘boy’ and playing with trucks, my parents didnt seem to think I was a boy…..they just let me get on with it – as what children play with / dress like doesnt stereotype their fucking sex!!!

    I really disagree with these parents on this documentary making choices for the children and not letting them get on with their lives and waiting til they are old enough to make their own choices – this is non reversable stuff !!!

    wait……you mean……you’ve always been a woman?

    holy shit :laugh_at:

    #1208874
    Tank Girl
    Participant

    @Buzz 357415 wrote:

    wait……you mean……you’ve always been a woman?

    holy shit :laugh_at:

    oopppssss……………………

    bollox goes my penis in a jar on my mums fire place surround :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

    #1208876
    Tank Girl
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    #1208865
    General Lighting
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    @Tank Girl 357412 wrote:

    aged 8 I was climbing trees, dressing like a ‘boy’ and playing with trucks, my parents didnt seem to think I was a boy…..they just let me get on with it – as what children play with / dress like doesnt stereotype their fucking sex!!!

    I remember girls like that but they still also kept their femininity especially when they grew up into their teens as well as the “tomboy” attitude and were the sort of girl I was more attracted to and I am a heterosexual male..

    I don’t agree with what the parents did but what I think is much more worrying is that they are probably not that mature themselves and had kids too early and are projecting their insecurities on to their kids.

    Bear in mind though that those of our generation (mid-late 30s) who have chosen not to have kids or if they do are already practicsing low-impact living rather than pandering to consumerism might well be the last generation of “free thinkers” who are willing or even able to change cultural stereotypes.

    I often joke with my friends that I keep having “life on mars/ashes to ashes” moments where I am unsure exactly what decade I am in, but I feel we are culturally heading towards worse times than the 1970s/80s – I’ve noticed a marked shift towards the resurgence of traditional gender roles, as well as the return of casual racism – its as if all the gains progressives fought for in our youth have been lost whilst the “permissive society” has been turned back on the people who fought for it so todays youth and children and even the younger parents are much more insecure..

    what I find much more disturbing than this isolated and extreme incident is that many kids what grew up in recent times do genuinely feel like teenagers by age 8/9/10. By age 13-15 they have already done and seen it all, drugs, sex, the lot.

    By their mid 20s and 30s many people seem to be going through fully fledged mid life crises (many have already had several failed relationships (as well as produced kids), they have been perpetrators of or victims of domestic violence, at the same time their early hedonistic lifestyles mean they have less qualifications or proper work experience so are unable to get or hold down steady jobs, whereupon they become bitter and resentful. At this point serious mental illness leading to self harm or harm towards others is not uncommon..

    #1208881
    GiantMidget
    Participant

    I’m not touching this issue with a ten foot barge pole.

    #1208890
    deliriyummy
    Participant

    i haven’t watched this program yet BUT in my opinion SOME people may know at a very early age that they want to have a sex change. IF this is the case in some cases then the hormone treatments early in life would definatly be a good thing for the person involved because a boys voice wont break and so they will sound more femenin and even grow some sort of breast tissues etc etc…

    #1208896
    Buzz
    Participant

    did anyone watch panorama? fucking rediculous

    #1208883
    GiantMidget
    Participant

    @Buzz 357481 wrote:

    did anyone watch panorama? fucking rediculous

    What was it about?

    #1208878
    Tank Girl
    Participant

    @deliriyummy 357477 wrote:

    i haven’t watched this program yet BUT in my opinion SOME people may know at a very early age that they want to have a sex change. IF this is the case in some cases then the hormone treatments early in life would definatly be a good thing for the person involved because a boys voice wont break and so they will sound more femenin and even grow some sort of breast tissues etc etc…

    My problem with the ‘parents’ on this docu is they genuinley seemed pretty bizzarre themselves (and not apparently very young either) – I agree some children may know / feel they are the wrong sex – but isnt it best to look at the mental health / family dynamics etc aspect in real longer term detail first before medicalising it as gender dysmorphia and resorting to non-changeable extreme medical / physical treatment? as this didnt appear to be done to any great length in the program

    and the thing is children are sponges and may be very swayed by bizzare parenting, and as it is such a huge issue shouldnt it be done when the child reaches a maturity where by they are accountable for their decisions… ??

    as I personaly feel age 8 is too young for a child to be making these decisions that will impact the rest of their future forever –

    I dont know – it is such a huge area and not at all black or white – but the examples in this program just seemed very wrong in my opioin and I am fully aware others wont necessarily agree with me, and I am also aware it may just be very well done channel 4 programming….

    #1208892
    deliriyummy
    Participant

    to be honist it probably is far too young. Now i think about it i dont really remember much about being 8…. if i don’t remember it then im really glad i didnt turn myself into a girl back then.

    #1208897
    Buzz
    Participant

    @DJCliffy 357486 wrote:

    What was it about?

    racism, it was some asian journalists posing as a couple and they moved into an estate in bristol for 8 weeks. they got attacked/intimidated 50 times during their stay

    #1208898
    1984
    Participant

    were the parents American by any chance? Slightly related, but I find the way in the USA they pump slightly hyper kids full of drugs and lable them ADD. Some children get a little manic, if not all, but pumping them full of sedating drugs….healthy.

    I could go on about how we are medicating half the western population with anti depressants because they feel “sad” at times. But I cant be bothered. I should move this to the rant section. What the hell is wrong with the west? 🙁 I know in many ways its the best the world has to offer, and how terrible is that! Bloody wisdom of crowds. *moans*

    #1208879
    Tank Girl
    Participant

    @1984 357538 wrote:

    were the parents American by any chance?

    how’d you guess?:laugh_at:

    have a problem….. here ‘medicalise it’ … :you_crazy

    #1208885
    GiantMidget
    Participant

    Have a problem…..feed it 5 big macs meals and 3 litre colas.

    Sorry that was a bit fat-ism wasn’t it.

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