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    globalloon
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      so i’ve been reading on a few sites that US government want to push through a massive and unfair increase in the cost of internet broadcasting

      this is an american bill, right? what jurisdiction will they have over stations based in other countries? what can listeners in other countries do to make their voices heard in the USA?

      #1103126
      MisterDuck
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        if the USA pass this law, pretty much no country is “safe” from it.

        i remember they passed a law requiring guitar tabs to have licenses (because apparently even tabbing out music is stealing money from artists, in reality from the record companie bosses and MTV) and sites with servers wherever were shut down.

        completely ridiculous, i mean… tabs and notation, needing a license? pathetic, but thats capitalism innit.

        also the USA are trying to get some russian MP3 site shut down. the USA effectively bullies other countries through ridiculous policies and not many countries will stand up to them, even in things as small as internet content/licensing.

        so yeah, if the law is passed… all internet radio sites are fucked. america will simply lean on other countries to sign up to the licensing agreement as well. i fucking hate the US… :you_crazy

        #1103127
        priv8green
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          boothy wrote:
          i remember they passed a law requiring guitar tabs to have licenses (because apparently even tabbing out music is stealing money from artists, in reality from the record companie bosses and MTV) and sites with servers wherever were shut down.

          how stupid can u get!?

          every day i’m surprized …

          why the fuck they d’ont put a tax on stupidity!…that will be fun to see,the IRS knocking on doors:”pay u’re stupidity tax or end up in jail” :weee:

          #1103125
          Raj
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            globalloon wrote:
            so i’ve been reading on a few sites that US government want to push through a massive and unfair increase in the cost of internet broadcasting

            this is an american bill, right? what jurisdiction will they have over stations based in other countries? what can listeners in other countries do to make their voices heard in the USA?

            The US are also trying to push through a change of copyright titlte [so that the owners of the servers on which information is hosted will be the copyright holders not those posting the information] so this doesnt come as a huge surprise….

            It will directly affect all those sites hosted in the US initially and then they will lean on other countries to attempt to make them comply with what they see as the correct law :you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

            The problem for them is that if the songs/music dont get played they wont sell – closing down internet radio or taxing it will not claw back what they see as lost royalties for music – this is really down to the availability of mp3s of the music and their low cost compared to the price of bought albums . CDs in the shop are sometimes priced at £15 for ten short tracks – I can see how it may be perceived as a rip off when the physical production costs for copying the cds are less than £2 :crazy_diz

            Plus internet radio is a great medium for creative artists to reach an audience without involving the big companies and I am sure this annoys them 😉 If we are sitting at home listening to internet radio we are not going out and spending money on things which make them money [ie consuming] DVDs, CDs, TV rights [add your own instance] and they hate that. Just as they hate pirate FM radio stations and pirate copies of anything pretty much.

            #1103121
            General Lighting
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              surely if the tracks are not licensed to major labels the yanks can’t actually do anything?

              I remember when I was doing legal radio trying to clear a load of our tracks through PPL or MCPS – they said they didn’t even recognise the labels and if the bulk of our show was made up of specialist independent dance music that they weren’t bothered anyway

              for the last 20 years dance music has been promoted through pirate radio airplay and the entire music industry has accepted this.

              I do suspect though this is a last-ditch attempt by large record companies and mainstream media to wrestle back power and control they have lost to the internet..

              #1103123
              globalloon
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                so… what can we (‘we’ being anyone who isn’t a US citizen) do?

                #1103124
                globalloon
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                  General Lighting wrote:
                  I remember when I was doing legal radio trying to clear a load of our tracks through PPL or MCPS – they said they didn’t even recognise the labels and if the bulk of our show was made up of specialist independent dance music that they weren’t bothered anyway

                  there was a landmark case some years ago in the US where an internet station argued exactly this; the royalties went to the ‘big 3’ regardless of whether they actually played any tracks from those labels or not. They argued that as they did not (and as they had a high level of support from many of the artists whose work they did play) that these were unfair charges. and they won at that time, setting a global precedent

                  #1103122
                  General Lighting
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                    the only thing I can think of is to find out who is behind the bill (what senators and which companies are lobbying them) and boycott their products whenever possible.

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