THIS FORUM——

[Me]

I’m not tryna be disrespectful

but

it’s a bit dead no?

I mean it’s got more posters than SJ but it’s FAR FAR FAR slower moving

whats that about?

[titch]

Quality not quantity 🙂

[Me]

Thats fair

you won’t get the stalkers, rasists and random psychos

But is one free to post a topic about something non sensicle stupid and random, as all us (well the intelligent ones any way) SJer’s love to do?

I take it this place is moderated?

[Techno Viking]

Me!!! wrote:

I’m not tryna be disrespectful

but

it’s a bit dead no?

I mean it’s got more posters than SJ but it’s FAR FAR FAR slower moving

whats that about?

It’s saturday night though isn’t it…

Quote:

I take it this place is moderated?

Say whatever you like, as long as it’s not overly offensive or abusive…

[General Lighting]

I think a lot of people are still in bed or only just getting up as they tried looking for raves and drew a blank so just decided to get some rest instead…

the cops seem to be on some even bigger mission at the moment to clamp down on everything.. even raiding licensed venues, if raves are to continue people need to be smarter and more unified in their approach because cops are catching up with our technology and we need to stop using venues that have been rinsed as the locals get angrier. Even with the new laws, no angry locals == no crime committed == no cops!

although this place is moderated its very rare to have to take action and normally we only do it to protect people from themselves when they drop themselves in it on a public forum..

cops now have dedicated units to monitor the internet, its no longer a case of the odd bobby with a few extra braincells who knows how to work a computer – loads of cops are ex-IT professionals now who got made redundant in the dotcom crash.

we do like a joke as well and there’s a whole sub forum for them – just that like you said we can do without stalkers, racists and psychos – if you let these people flourish in the name of “free speech” they form alliances and take over communities.

there’s a whole world at war and a townie/chav culture of fighting already FFS – I always thought raves and the associated lifestyle were about something better than that…

[Anonymous]

Me!!! wrote:

Thats fair

you won’t get the stalkers, rasists and random psychos

But is one free to post a topic about something non sensicle stupid and random, as all us (well the intelligent ones any way) SJer’s love to do?

I take it this place is moderated?

as site said, the only way a post will be edited is if there is a personal threat, or some grubby porn, or snuff or whatever (we want this site to be accessable to as many people as possible, and if theres too much dirt then uni’s and more work places will block us). ive edited two posts in four years and one was a threat, and the other was because i was pissed.

the chat forum is there for chat. at the mo this site is mostly used for debate rather than chat, but thats just how its happened, not something that was planned out.

as i’ve said before, i like the balance that sj and pv create together, but thats just me.

[elraveon]

I dont respond as much as I would like because things are complecated and its not allways easy to explain stuff in a few words, the basic cause of most problems is the same but people dont want to hear it and if people have fallen in to the soup they spit it at you. 😉
they just want to concentrate on the symptoms, we are devided and conqured, fucked and fucked over and pretty much fucked off.

[Anonymous]

elraveon wrote:

I dont respond as much as I would like because things are complecated and its not allways easy to explain stuff in a few words, the basic cause of most problems is the same but people dont want to hear it and if people have fallen in to the soup they spit it at you. 😉
they just want to concentrate on the symptoms, we are devided and conqured, fucked and fucked over and pretty much fucked off.

if you climbed out from your arse and werent so patronising and condescending maybe you’d get a better response. im still sorry i deleted your post, it was an error of judgement, and i should have learnt my lesson of being on here when drunk. but im obviously not a very fast learner. dont think that your veiws are too “out there” for people to comprehend (condescending much?), its the way you word them that gets people backs up. before you say it, know im a big fat kettle calling your potface black, but there you go. smoke that.

[elraveon]

USE wrote:

if you climbed out from your arse and werent so patronising and condescending maybe you’d get a better response. im still sorry i deleted your post, it was an error of judgement, and i should have learnt my lesson of being on here when drunk. but im obviously not a very fast learner. dont think that your veiws are too “out there” for people to comprehend (condescending much?), its the way you word them that gets people backs up. before you say it, know im a big fat kettle calling your potface black, but there you go. smoke that.

I fail to see where I am being condisending, I was admiting I cant put what I want to say very well “things are complecated and its not allways easy to explain stuff in a few words,” I didnt say ‘understand’ I said “explain”

I did intend to reword this

I dont respond as much as I would like because things are complecated and its not allways easy to explain stuff in a few words, the basic cause of most problems is the same but people dont want to hear it and if people have fallen in to the soup they spit it at you. 😉
they just want to concentrate on the symptoms, we are devided and conqured, fucked and fucked over and pretty much fucked off.

but I think you are making my point for me so I’ll let it stand now.

I agree you are the a pot black kettle. I have let several patronising remarks of yours go and many personal nasty remarks and they did stop me posting a while back but I am in no mood to be pushed around anymore by ******** so isnt it about time you learnt to dissagree or to put your point without venom or lay off the booze.

[General Lighting]

one issue here is this site attracts a lot of idealistic newbies (which is what it is supposed to do!) and sometimes I get the impression elraveon is aiming a lot of his advice at them rather than old hands.

he’s also a father and theres an obvious desire there to protect younger people from stepping into danger (which is of course a good thing)

that said it is way too easy by overemphasising stuff like the class struggles to inadvertantly make it sound (particularly to younger people who haven’t looked at the wider picture) like there is no hope whatsoever to get round them –

this can make people feel that the only alternatives are either to accept the current situation (particularly if they have managed to get jobs/houses or have families) and give up partying – or those who don’t have anything forget about stuff like positive parties and fight back by violence or crime, something already happening on the streets of London and our other inner cities.

dunno how many of you know about the grime scene but it is IMO one of the most depressing things I have ever come across; although the music is good its all about violence, misogyny etc. People even fight to the sound of certain tunes to show their appreciation! thing is a lot of younger teenagers are well into it and I can see the attraction (it is based on the old skool sound of rave and their events are also called rave) but its a whole generation lost to the darkside because people haven’t shown them anything more positive…

do we want to add to this?

[globalloon]

LO Me!!

you’re not likely to find that same new-reply-every-30-secinds threads that you do on some internet forums

but you do have the chance to discuss things in an environment of mutual respect… (as shown but USE and Elaraveon – who seem to be a each others throats, but still say stuff like “sorry” and “we seem to be misunderatnding where each other are coming from “).

for me this is rare and something valuable.. I personally learnt quite a bit about my rights / responsibilities as a party organiser from this site, even thought i’d been involved in the scene for years… these slower, midweek discussions (as opposed to shouting accross the volume of thumping techno, while mashed) are well worthwhile

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