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    Avatarparrotfish
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    I could no doubt find this info on the web…and have found a fair bit, but just wanted to ask folk here as I’m sure some of you have experience….

    I’m gonna have a bash at making some ambient tunes – does anyone else do similar, and what you use to do it?

    I’ve got a copy of Reason 4 and Acid Pro and both seem relatively user friendly. Just wondering if I need anything else, or can I pretty much just use software?

    I’d like to record some guitar and include that in some stuff as well – any advice on this?

    Basically I have some of the gear and not much idea..but I learn quick.

    Thanks for any info ๐Ÿ™‚

    #1229946
    Avatarjoshd96320
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    hard

    as

    fuck

    #1229942
    AvatarDaftFader
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    can you use vst’s in reason? … if so zeta plugin has a nice sound to it for ambiance

    #1229947
    Avatarjoshd96320
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    nah you cant you will have to rewire reason into cubase & use the vsts within cubase thats how i do it as i like the Thor and some stuff in reason so i plug it into cubase and use vsts there and EQ it too as reason comes out a bit flat

    #1229943
    AvatarDaftFader
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    @joshd96320 401477 wrote:

    nah you cant you will have to rewire reason into cubase & use the vsts within cubase thats how i do it as i like the Thor and some stuff in reason so i plug it into cubase and use vsts there and EQ it too as reason comes out a bit flat

    You’ll have to explain to me how to do this one day.

    #1229948
    Avatarjoshd96320
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    i shall do!

    im not much in these days

    ill write a guide
    for you

    #1229950
    Avatarjoshd96320
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    in much*

    #1229944
    AvatarDaftFader
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    cool man … safe as fook! :love:

    #1229941
    Avatarprocess
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    iacchus makes good chilled tunes, might be worth having a word with him..

    #1229945
    Avatarp0ly
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    All about the analogue ๐Ÿ˜€ unless you like computers n making music, i get side tracked easy when using Reason, i end up on google or replying to IMs ๐Ÿ™

    #1229955
    Avatarparrotfish
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    so is cubase generally recommended over something like acidpro? Acidpro seems relatively straight forward – haven’t seen cubase. Bearing in mind I’m not setting out to be a pioneer or get signed…I’m just interested, good with computers, like music and wanna give it a try.

    is there really that much difference between analogue and digital…or is it like comparing mp3 to cd? I’ve read there are more sound possibilities with analogue, but am I ever likely to use up all the possibilities I can get with digital?

    does anyone else make tunes using just a computer and no other equipment?

    ta

    #1229952
    AvatarClusterfrog
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    Yes to making ambient

    My main advice to everyone ever is DONT USE REASON! No offence to the Reason fanboys I know why people like it, it was my first sequencer myself, but pretty much everyone outgrows the software fairly quickly, the lack of hardware/vst support is a massive drag and using two sequencers at once with rewire breaks your workflow and is a massive pain in the arse. Also you wont be able to record your guitar into it, it’s a black box and hates the outside world.

    Acid pro isnt bad it’s got a bad reputation but Rusko does all his work in acid pro it can do everything the others can too its just best for stuff like mashup

    I’ve worked with the all the sequencers over the years and to be honest I think Ableton Live wins hands down. Despite being initially designed for live performance it does everything all the other sequencers do and a lot of things a lot better. It’s built in effects arent as good as they are in say Logic but you can get great VST effects and Ableton is by far the easiest sequencer to manipulate audio in, I can work a lot faster in it and at the end of the day that is what is important when the one thing that makes a track better is time, and lots of it

    Also if you’re serious get a hardware synth. Software synths are ok but just dont cut the mustard for professional production they always lack the warm rich sound you get from a real analogue modelling synth. I think dubstep is the only genre where the professionals can get away with software synths (and most dubstep basslines still sound pretty flat to me most of the time), if you’re doing anything trancey you need a synth with big polyphony and it’s own internal processor.

    I wouldnt recommend and actual analogue synth (like a moog) they are really only good for making simple but fat noises and they’re a bugger to use, for ambient you’ll be wanting complex pads etc so an analogue modelling synth will be far more useful.

    I can recommend u some ok software VSTs tho if u want to learn the ropes before u commit to a buy. Albino 2 and z3ta are ok and easy to get to grips with, you’ll get better noises out of NI Massive and Absynth but they’re harder to get your head round.

    And try not to use presets you’ll need to learn to program synths eventually might as well start now ๐Ÿ˜‰

    #1229954
    AvatarBuzz
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    ableton

    #1229951
    Avatarjoshd96320
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    i think that ni massive is easier than zeta ๐Ÿ™‚

    #1229956
    Avatarparrotfish
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    @Iacchus 401528 wrote:

    Yes to making ambient

    My main advice to everyone ever is DONT USE REASON! No offence to the Reason fanboys I know why people like it, it was my first sequencer myself, but pretty much everyone outgrows the software fairly quickly, the lack of hardware/vst support is a massive drag and using two sequencers at once with rewire breaks your workflow and is a massive pain in the arse. Also you wont be able to record your guitar into it, it’s a black box and hates the outside world.

    Acid pro isnt bad it’s got a bad reputation but Rusko does all his work in acid pro it can do everything the others can too its just best for stuff like mashup

    I’ve worked with the all the sequencers over the years and to be honest I think Ableton Live wins hands down. Despite being initially designed for live performance it does everything all the other sequencers do and a lot of things a lot better. It’s built in effects arent as good as they are in say Logic but you can get great VST effects and Ableton is by far the easiest sequencer to manipulate audio in, I can work a lot faster in it and at the end of the day that is what is important when the one thing that makes a track better is time, and lots of it

    Also if you’re serious get a hardware synth. Software synths are ok but just dont cut the mustard for professional production they always lack the warm rich sound you get from a real analogue modelling synth. I think dubstep is the only genre where the professionals can get away with software synths (and most dubstep basslines still sound pretty flat to me most of the time), if you’re doing anything trancey you need a synth with big polyphony and it’s own internal processor.

    I wouldnt recommend and actual analogue synth (like a moog) they are really only good for making simple but fat noises and they’re a bugger to use, for ambient you’ll be wanting complex pads etc so an analogue modelling synth will be far more useful.

    I can recommend u some ok software VSTs tho if u want to learn the ropes before u commit to a buy. Albino 2 and z3ta are ok and easy to get to grips with, you’ll get better noises out of NI Massive and Absynth but they’re harder to get your head round.

    And try not to use presets you’ll need to learn to program synths eventually might as well start now ๐Ÿ˜‰

    thanks for the info – is any of your stuff available to download/stream? Would be interested to hear it.

    #1229953
    AvatarClusterfrog
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    @parrotfish 401611 wrote:

    thanks for the info – is any of your stuff available to download/stream? Would be interested to hear it.

    Iacchus on MySpace Music – Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads

    you can stream my latest stuff (see demo tracks)

    U can download my previous album below.. production not as good on that tho
    http://bitcrusher.co.uk/releases/BITCR003/BITCR003.zip

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