Forums Music lyric writing

This topic contains 27 replies, has 11 voices, and was last updated by Avatar AcidFace July 4, 2013 at 5:10 pm.

Viewing 25 posts - 1 through 25 (of 28 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1056099
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    so ive been writing lyrics lately, and ive been told im pretty good, I cant sing so what id have to maybe try and do is put a beat to it and rap/MC, which im slowly but surely getting better…

    Now im just thinking, if i could create my own music to put my own lyrics too it would be even better, any recommendations on programs?

    And does anyone know how someone might start selling lyrics?

    #1274450
    Avatar
    MR207
    Participant

    Let’s hear em first, give us a little sample

    #1274451
    Avatar
    joksgez
    Participant

    yeah man would love to hear em !

    #1274437
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    ok so i just wrote this now.. I literally write these in like 5 mins

    Spend all night, gazing up at the stars, wondering when the revolution will reach us, outside, all alone, in the dark, free from worries, yet nothing lasts, been waiting all my life, to live a moment like this, for eternity, if i rose up, and fought for the cause, who would join me in this painful process, it will be long, it will be hard, there will be tear gas rolling through the door, but nothing defeats the idea we have and love in our hearts.

    if i fought long and hard, who would stand by my side until they were all gone, power to the people will be our song, leaving them defenceless because even their armed guards, will open their eyes and welcome us with open arms, being paid to protect the devils puppets, we have to help them see, what were doing is not just for us, it is for humanity, as a whole to rebuild the world to a better place, how are they so blind to see?

    They are more poems, but i dont know what to do with a poem so ill turn it in to a rap or song?

    Im not posting any more until Ive produced one, or none that ive actually worked on

    #1274431
    Avatar
    know_hope
    Participant

    @lshak 550796 wrote:

    so ive been writing lyrics lately, and ive been told im pretty good, I cant sing so what id have to maybe try and do is put a beat to it and rap/MC, which im slowly but surely getting better…

    nice πŸ™‚

    @lshak 550796 wrote:

    Now im just thinking, if i could create my own music to put my own lyrics too it would be even better, any recommendations on programs?

    i guess it depends what type of music you are creating. fl studio may be good if its your first sequencer, or pro tools is expensive but best if your working with live sources

    @lshak 550796 wrote:

    And does anyone know how someone might start selling lyrics?

    selling out already? :hopeless:

    #1274438
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    @know_hope 550802 wrote:

    nice πŸ™‚

    i guess it depends what type of music you are creating. fl studio may be good if its your first sequencer, or pro tools is expensive but best if your working with live sources

    selling out already? :hopeless:

    thank you man, fl studio will be my first πŸ™‚

    well i dont want to be but i dont think i can sing or rap, it doesnt sound bad though with a tiny bit of auto tune, so ill see how it goes…
    but i hear you can make a lot simply selling songs

    #1274432
    Avatar
    know_hope
    Participant

    @lshak 550804 wrote:

    thank you man, fl studio will be my first πŸ™‚

    nice, good luck πŸ™‚

    @lshak 550804 wrote:

    well i dont want to be but i dont think i can sing or rap, it doesnt sound bad though with a tiny bit of auto tune, so ill see how it goes…
    but i hear you can make a lot simply selling songs

    so is this project just about making money?… cos if it is there are many easier ways

    #1274439
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    @know_hope 550805 wrote:

    nice, good luck πŸ™‚

    so is this project just about making money?… cos if it is there are many easier ways

    cheers buddy

    Its about making money but also to get a message out to people, a message to the ignorant to wake up, subliminally…

    better ways, in terms of working?
    In my eyes you can never make money working for someone, id do this, create a few albums until i made a nice healthy amount of money, then open up a business of some sort, and retire in a country elsewhere

    #1274433
    Avatar
    know_hope
    Participant

    lshak, just to give you an (one) outsider perspective; if its all about making money, but there is also a message, then the message will be diluted as its merely an attachment to the real passion; making money. also (imo) it sounds like you’re underestimating people and/or have a somewhat supremacist standpoint. yes there is madness in the world, but for me in affluent parts of the world that has a lot to do with the misdirection of the rich and few. on an individual level i feel like people, although sometimes misguided, are intelligent,.. and for many you meet, although you may feel that you could be their shining light out of the darkness, there is probably something, or many things they could share with you that you weren’t aware of, if only you’d listen. i’d suggest that ‘ignorant’ people are worth more than hidden messages and deserve something perceptible…

    something like…

    hmm…
    πŸ’‘

    this πŸ™‚

    #1274449
    Avatar
    MC G-Tek
    Participant

    Making money out of selling lyrics will be a long road man. There’s no magic formula or anything that’ll make it instantly happen, but if you’re dedicated enough and good enough, then you stand a chance of being able to get somewhere, but even then, you need a massive slice of luck (right place, right time, or knowing the right person/people). If there was an easy route to success, everyone would be at it. Good luck though dude, if you need any pointers, feel free to give me a PM any time.

    #1274448
    Avatar
    Izbeckistan
    Participant

    ‘art for arts sake’ is the infamous term I believe.

    #1274447
    Avatar
    Pat McDonald
    Participant

    @lshak 550796 wrote:

    And does anyone know how someone might start selling lyrics?

    Well, you’ve really got to know your target market. Which might be something you really don’t like, but if you see a need, then it’s possible that there could be a call for lyric writing skills.

    Take for example, Christian organisations. They have a big problem right now in that the politicians have told them to get all loved up with lesbians and gays, after thousands of years of persecuting them and / or denying their existence or right to express their sexual choices.

    So, there’s a big gap in the market, for hymns (religious songs) which can greet and welcome in this new sort of worshipper (because all the old ones left religion a long time ago).

    One way around it would be to change existing tunes with gay and or lesbian lyrics – so, for instance, “Deep in the Heart of Texas” could be reworded to something like “Deep up your arse for Jesus”.

    Likewise, “Oh when the Saints/Go Cottaging”.

    I was thinking about a dubstep remix version of “This is the Image of Our Queen” but I really couldn’t see anyone dancing to it. Possibly starting slack jawed with disbelief but not actually dancing.

    Quite frankly these examples are terrible but I’m sure you get the concept – you have to spot the gap in a market and deliver the lyrics that are needed.

    #1274429
    Avatar
    General Lighting
    Moderator

    Apparently there is actually a thriving Islamic rap/dubstep/urban music scene. The lad who coded the Ramadan calendar for the Middlesex/Southall Moon Sighting Committee mentioned it on his blog.

    #1274434
    Avatar
    know_hope
    Participant

    @MC G-Tek 550826 wrote:

    but even then, you need a massive slice of luck

    was skim reading and read ‘but even then, you’ll need a massive cock’… lol πŸ™‚

    @izbeckistan 550828 wrote:

    ‘art for arts sake’ is the infamous term I believe.

    not ‘money!, for fuck sake!’

    @Pat McDonald 550831 wrote:

    after thousands of years of persecuting… there’s a big gap in the market

    lolz! :sign0078:

    #1274440
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    @know_hope 550824 wrote:

    lshak, just to give you an (one) outsider perspective; if its all about making money, but there is also a message, then the message will be diluted as its merely an attachment to the real passion; making money. also (imo) it sounds like you’re underestimating people and/or have a somewhat supremacist standpoint. yes there is madness in the world, but for me in affluent parts of the world that has a lot to do with the misdirection of the rich and few. on an individual level i feel like people, although sometimes misguided, are intelligent,.. and for many you meet, although you may feel that you could be their shining light out of the darkness, there is probably something, or many things they could share with you that you weren’t aware of, if only you’d listen. i’d suggest that ‘ignorant’ people are worth more than hidden messages and deserve something perceptible…

    something like…

    hmm…
    πŸ’‘

    this πŸ™‚

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfh5HDlbitc

    this is good man, i dont intend to sound like a supremacist, but thanks for throwing that out there so i dont accidentally come off that way ill keep it in mind, and my music would generally be aimed at religion, motivation, politics, and just general change within the world and economic system…
    But thanks for the post know_hope, any more things let me know, need some criticism, i know its ahrd until you hear a song but im getting there

    Obviously i ened to think further in to it, but i wont be aiming it at a specific group, maybe at first to get it out there but then ill expand

    #1274441
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    @Pat McDonald 550831 wrote:

    Well, you’ve really got to know your target market. Which might be something you really don’t like, but if you see a need, then it’s possible that there could be a call for lyric writing skills.

    Take for example, Christian organisations. They have a big problem right now in that the politicians have told them to get all loved up with lesbians and gays, after thousands of years of persecuting them and / or denying their existence or right to express their sexual choices.

    So, there’s a big gap in the market, for hymns (religious songs) which can greet and welcome in this new sort of worshipper (because all the old ones left religion a long time ago).

    One way around it would be to change existing tunes with gay and or lesbian lyrics – so, for instance, “Deep in the Heart of Texas” could be reworded to something like “Deep up your arse for Jesus”.

    Likewise, “Oh when the Saints/Go Cottaging”.

    I was thinking about a dubstep remix version of “This is the Image of Our Queen” but I really couldn’t see anyone dancing to it. Possibly starting slack jawed with disbelief but not actually dancing.

    Quite frankly these examples are terrible but I’m sure you get the concept – you have to spot the gap in a market and deliver the lyrics that are needed.

    yeah i see what you mean, but i wouldnt write anything to do anything with putting down or insulting any kind of religion, although that is where the money probably would be at, i couldnt do that..

    But i completely understand what you mean

    #1274435
    Avatar
    know_hope
    Participant

    @lshak 550840 wrote:

    yeah i see what you mean, but i wouldnt write anything to do anything with putting down or insulting any kind of religion, although that is where the money probably would be at, i couldnt do that..

    maybe you could look to cliff richard for inspiration here

    #1274442
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    fuck cliff richards man….

    ok so i have actually just wrote a pretty good tune, to just some beat i found on youtube, played it back, i just need to obviously fix it up and that…

    If i was to put it on youtube (when i make like a good decent 15 tracks) would i need to copyright them somehow does anyone know the deal with this kind of stuff?

    #1274443
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    @General Lighting 550832 wrote:

    Apparently there is actually a thriving Islamic rap/dubstep/urban music scene. The lad who coded the Ramadan calendar for the Middlesex/Southall Moon Sighting Committee mentioned it on his blog.

    hmm, yeah i could imagine there probably would be, ill bare that in mind, thanks man πŸ™‚

    #1274455
    Avatar
    AcidFace
    Participant

    Make music for yourself, don’t make music for other people.

    #1274453
    Avatar
    Psybastian
    Participant

    i use ableton, which is awesome but expensive. i write lyrics for rapping. id be up for a collaboration one day πŸ˜‰

    #1274444
    Avatar
    Lshak
    Participant

    @psybastian 550863 wrote:

    i use ableton, which is awesome but expensive. i write lyrics for rapping. id be up for a collaboration one day πŸ˜‰

    i might check it out, how does it distribute lyrics exactly?

    or is it for producing to your lyrics?

    #1274452
    Avatar
    joksgez
    Participant

    i dont mean to knock you here, but i think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself. you’ve just got this idea in your head about making music and making money from it and now you think you’re gonna bang out a 15 track album put it on youtube and get it copyrighted and make your fortune?

    no offence but i dont think its quite as simple as that

    #1274454
    Avatar
    Psybastian
    Participant

    @lshak 550864 wrote:

    i might check it out, how does it distribute lyrics exactly?

    or is it for producing to your lyrics?

    nah its a production software, i make my instrumentals on it, then use a programme called reaper (its free) and import the tune onto that and then put my lyrics over it

    #1274436
    Avatar
    know_hope
    Participant

    @lshak 550848 wrote:

    If i was to put it on youtube (when i make like a good decent 15 tracks) would i need to copyright them somehow does anyone know the deal with this kind of stuff?

    all music, in one sense is just stealing a chunk of something that already exists and making it into something new, in the same sense that all essays, (unless some actual private study/survey/experiment has been performed) are mass plagiarism (think stephen fry said that :?)… but if you blatantly take a chunk of someone else recorded music with no alteration then you probably need to let them know. that said, its probably not beyond the realm of possibility for you to find what it is you like about the sound and recreate it, hopefully giving it a new twist, and there’s no infringement in doing that (well thats may be the black and white explanation)

    @lshak 550848 wrote:

    fuck cliff richards man….

    kinky ^^

Viewing 25 posts - 1 through 25 (of 28 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

Skip to toolbar