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    wickle
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    Lately there has been something really bugging me about my CDJS.

    The Mixer that I use has a terrible BPM counter (very inacurate)

    So when Im in the mix I need to rely on my CDJ’s BPM counter for beat matching etc etc..

    Now most of the time the CDJ will show the BPM of the track no problem (eg 153 bpm) and I can happily go ahead and try to mix the two tracks together.
    But lately, it has been jumping between two types of readings, if you like. One minute it will read, 153 bpm, The next minute it will read, 77.0 or some other random number.

    Is this happening to anybody else who uses CDJS?

    Any help on the matter would be excellant

    Jam

    #1225987
    p0ly
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    That happens on software with certain tracks as well.

    #1225990
    wickle
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    It seems to be happening at randomn.
    Nothing to do with the actual track slowing down or anything.
    Propper pisses me off!!
    Maybe my CDJS are fekked

    #1225988
    p0ly
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    What CDJs are they?

    #1225993
    joshd96320
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    why are u using bpm counter? just do it oldskool with the pitch shifter

    #1225984
    Digital-A
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    what model are the decks? i cant really give you any advice as there are various software problems im aware of but just message us the model and ill see what i can find .. to be honest, use the bpm counter as a guide and not to mix with.

    #1225985
    DaftFader
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    use your ears like a real DJ!

    #1225981
    process
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    @DaftFader 384845 wrote:

    use your ears like a real DJ!

    ^this x1000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

    #1225991
    wickle
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    @Digital-A 384837 wrote:

    what model are the decks? i cant really give you any advice as there are various software problems im aware of but just message us the model and ill see what i can find .. to be honest, use the bpm counter as a guide and not to mix with.

    Pioneer CDJ 400’s

    @DaftFader 384845 wrote:

    use your ears like a real DJ!

    lol I do, though I like to use the BPM counter to get a quick rough idea of what speed the track is, then I can Try and use my ears for the fine tuning.

    I’ll give you an example.

    – I’ll have a track playing on deck A at say, 155 BPM

    – Then I decide the track Im gonna try to mix it into

    – I begin to play the chosen track on deck B

    – I try and adjust the speed of the chosen track to match the one playing in deckA

    – I get no where as the BPM counter keeps changing the reading. one minute its 154 BPM, the next, 78.4 or wtvr

    – I run out of Time, Mix Ruined!!

    It can really spoil it!

    Has anybody else encountered a similar prob before?

    #1225982
    process
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    @JamZandwich 384945 wrote:

    lol I do, though I like to use the BPM counter to get a quick rough idea of what speed the track is, then I can Try and use my ears for the fine tuning.

    why not use your ears for the whole lot? you dont need a bpm counter, just use the headphones! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    #1225986
    DaftFader
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    @process 384946 wrote:

    why not use your ears for the whole lot? you dont need a bpm counter, just use the headphones! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    ^^ this x 1000000000000000000000000000000 :laugh_at:

    #1225989
    p0ly
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    If it has the bpm counter may as well use it

    #1225992
    wickle
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    @process 384946 wrote:

    why not use your ears for the whole lot? you dont need a bpm counter, just use the headphones! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Im a learner so I do need it.

    Also, with the sort of music I play (Fast, Boom boom bang kinda stuff) its really handy to have the BPM counter.

    Like what poly said, I might as well use it if its got it

    One good thing to come out of its absence though – I am starting to rely on my ears all the time these days to beat match. often this is difficult when mixing the much Harder stuff, where there is barely a split second between beats.

    I Recon Im getting the hang of it though raaa

    #1225983
    process
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    @JamZandwich 385006 wrote:

    Im a learner so I do need it.

    Also, with the sort of music I play (Fast, Boom boom bang kinda stuff) its really handy to have the BPM counter.

    Like what poly said, I might as well use it if its got it

    One good thing to come out of its absence though – I am starting to rely on my ears all the time these days to beat match. often this is difficult when mixing the much Harder stuff, where there is barely a split second between beats.

    I Recon Im getting the hang of it though raaa

    fair play mate im only taking the piss. always best to learn the skills tho rather than rely on technology as you’ve found out that can sometimes go wrong! tbh if your playing really fast music with loads of beats all over the shop thats probably whats throwing the bpm counter off, some just cant handle some tunes. what time of music are you playing btw?

    #1225980
    Tek Offensive
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    if you learn using them then youll always need them, what happens if you play a set at a party or club and they dont have bpm’s?

    my mixer has them but theyve never really worked properly, plus i learned playing drum and bass which they dont work for anyway

    i think even the best ones arent going to be perfect, i guess they measure peaks in the music ie kick’s but surely other bass notes and that are going to get picked up occaisonally and throw it off beat,

    #1225979
    Anonymous

    @Tek Offensive 385533 wrote:

    if you learn using them then youll always need them, what happens if you play a set at a party or club and they dont have bpm’s?

    my mixer has them but theyve never really worked properly, plus i learned playing drum and bass which they dont work for anyway

    i think even the best ones arent going to be perfect, i guess they measure peaks in the music ie kick’s but surely other bass notes and that are going to get picked up occaisonally and throw it off beat,

    I guess it depends on the music I know with my cdjs if im playing some techno the cdjs bpm counter is able to work well. drum & bass on the other hand is not so good.
    it works by taking 10 seconds of the track then multiplying the amount of beats in that 10 seconds by 6. or so ive been told.
    I doubt any cdj bpm counters are gonna be bang on so like the other guys have said. learn to use your ears! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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