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September 23, 2007 at 1:48 am #1042425
Hi all, i’m trying to get hold of a copy of the documentary called Exodus from Babylon, about the Exodus collective in Luton, i had it on video and tried to watch it friday night, but bthe tape snapped. It was made in 1997 and shown on channel 4, and showed the police harrasment of the collective including planting evidence, framing biggie for murder, and the excellent evening when plod shut down a rave and we all continued opposite the old bill station effectively shutting luton down for the evening.
i have contacted channel 4 and the makers of the documentary but had no luck so far.
Can anyone help me find a copy, as i am in it.Thanks in advance
Rene
September 23, 2007 at 9:20 am #1120569Could you get a tape-splicing kit and repair the snapped tape? Just a thought if you can’t find a replacement. Good luck :weee:
September 23, 2007 at 9:20 am #1141336Could you get a tape-splicing kit and repair the snapped tape? Just a thought if you can’t find a replacement. Good luck :weee:
September 23, 2007 at 9:35 am #1120566HappyHippy wrote:Could you get a tape-splicing kit and repair the snapped tape? Just a thought if you can’t find a replacement. Good luck :weee:to splice videotape you need a properly machined splicing kit, a magnifier and this strange powder which shows up the magnetism, it has to be even more spot on than audio tape or the picture won’t track. I worked in the TV industry for some years and never heard of anyone splicing a video cassette to recover footage, not even Betacam or one of the pro formats. It was done briefly in the days of open reel VTR’s (before my time!)
Runnins a spliced tape would also risk a serious head clog or trashing the video heads. the best that most engineers would attempt would be to transfer each half of the remaining tape to a separate shell (and even that is fiddly).
Unfortunately the industry is so balkanised nowadays I’m not surprised that neither the production company nor channel 4 is able to help as unless one of the producers/directors keep their own copy or there is still an Ofcom viewing copy (required by law) around somewhere stuff just gets dumped in an archive and no one wants to do the extra work to find it unless you pay them. Although it might be worth trying to track down the producer or director of the project, they may be flattered enough that its remembered after nearly 10 years to help you get a copy.
i’ve stuck this thread as well as it does seem like the sort of video that some ravers would have kept..
September 23, 2007 at 9:35 am #1141333HappyHippy wrote:Could you get a tape-splicing kit and repair the snapped tape? Just a thought if you can’t find a replacement. Good luck :weee:to splice videotape you need a properly machined splicing kit, a magnifier and this strange powder which shows up the magnetism, it has to be even more spot on than audio tape or the picture won’t track. I worked in the TV industry for some years and never heard of anyone splicing a video cassette to recover footage, not even Betacam or one of the pro formats. It was done briefly in the days of open reel VTR’s (before my time!)
Runnins a spliced tape would also risk a serious head clog or trashing the video heads. the best that most engineers would attempt would be to transfer each half of the remaining tape to a separate shell (and even that is fiddly).
Unfortunately the industry is so balkanised nowadays I’m not surprised that neither the production company nor channel 4 is able to help as unless one of the producers/directors keep their own copy or there is still an Ofcom viewing copy (required by law) around somewhere stuff just gets dumped in an archive and no one wants to do the extra work to find it unless you pay them. Although it might be worth trying to track down the producer or director of the project, they may be flattered enough that its remembered after nearly 10 years to help you get a copy.
i’ve stuck this thread as well as it does seem like the sort of video that some ravers would have kept..
September 23, 2007 at 9:37 am #1120564Exodus from Babylon – 1997
http://www.spectacle.co.uk/catalogue_production.php?id=52
Quote:Producer: Mark Saunders
Edited by: Susanne Askoe
Directed by: Mark Saunders
Production Company: Spectacle
Funded by: Spectacle Channel 4
Camera Operator: Petra Graff and Mark Saunders
Original Format: colour, beta sp, 38 mins
Language versions: englishIntroduction
The Luton based Exodus Collective came into existence in 1992 as part of the growing DIY culture which arose in response to unemployment, poverty and frustration amongst young people.
They organised free ‘rave’ parties, renovated derelict homes, set up a community farm and now plan to open a community centre.Some of their activities border on illegality but they are entirely peaceful Exodus has a huge following amongst local people.
Their philosophy has a strong spiritual strand, appealing to notions of community and natural justice in its struggle for survival and renewal. However, their utopian project presents a challenge to the status quo and has met with powerful opposition.
Exodus from Babylon investigates the intricate web of this opposition, from aggressive policing to local government obstruction. It reveals the shift in policing from reactive peace keeping to proactive intervention, involving a series of special operations by Bedfordshire Police.
The programme looks in detail at a number of police actions against Exodus, including the prosecution and acquittal of collective member, Paul Taylor, for possession of Ecstasy and for murder. It asks why the strategy of getting tough with Exodus emerged and identifies a number of interlocking interests at play.
Exodus from Babylon contains original music by the Exodus Collective and some great reggae tunes.
Ordering Information
If you would like to order a copy of this video, please select the version you are interested in, from the email links below.
Order Catalogue No. EXB – DVD – en – pal via email
September 23, 2007 at 9:37 am #1141331Exodus from Babylon – 1997
http://www.spectacle.co.uk/catalogue_production.php?id=52
Quote:Producer: Mark Saunders
Edited by: Susanne Askoe
Directed by: Mark Saunders
Production Company: Spectacle
Funded by: Spectacle Channel 4
Camera Operator: Petra Graff and Mark Saunders
Original Format: colour, beta sp, 38 mins
Language versions: englishIntroduction
The Luton based Exodus Collective came into existence in 1992 as part of the growing DIY culture which arose in response to unemployment, poverty and frustration amongst young people.
They organised free ‘rave’ parties, renovated derelict homes, set up a community farm and now plan to open a community centre.Some of their activities border on illegality but they are entirely peaceful Exodus has a huge following amongst local people.
Their philosophy has a strong spiritual strand, appealing to notions of community and natural justice in its struggle for survival and renewal. However, their utopian project presents a challenge to the status quo and has met with powerful opposition.
Exodus from Babylon investigates the intricate web of this opposition, from aggressive policing to local government obstruction. It reveals the shift in policing from reactive peace keeping to proactive intervention, involving a series of special operations by Bedfordshire Police.
The programme looks in detail at a number of police actions against Exodus, including the prosecution and acquittal of collective member, Paul Taylor, for possession of Ecstasy and for murder. It asks why the strategy of getting tough with Exodus emerged and identifies a number of interlocking interests at play.
Exodus from Babylon contains original music by the Exodus Collective and some great reggae tunes.
Ordering Information
If you would like to order a copy of this video, please select the version you are interested in, from the email links below.
Order Catalogue No. EXB – DVD – en – pal via email
September 23, 2007 at 9:41 am #1120567good find!
17 quid for a DVD straight from the production co isn’t bad, especially if its a straight Beta-SP > DVD transfer should be very good quality compared to something off telly.
September 23, 2007 at 9:41 am #1141334good find!
17 quid for a DVD straight from the production co isn’t bad, especially if its a straight Beta-SP > DVD transfer should be very good quality compared to something off telly.
September 23, 2007 at 9:45 am #1120565And I don’t see it on eMULE of youtube unfortunately…
September 23, 2007 at 9:45 am #1141332And I don’t see it on eMULE of youtube unfortunately…
September 23, 2007 at 10:24 am #1120570Thanks for the sticky general lighting.
Thanks for the link, but i ordered from there but don’t hold out much hope.
there doesn’t appear to be a torrent of it either.
Thanks for helping out, my search continues………….
September 23, 2007 at 10:24 am #1141337Thanks for the sticky general lighting.
Thanks for the link, but i ordered from there but don’t hold out much hope.
there doesn’t appear to be a torrent of it either.
Thanks for helping out, my search continues………….
September 23, 2007 at 10:30 am #1120568renegadechicken wrote:Thanks for the sticky general lighting.Thanks for the link, but i ordered from there but don’t hold out much hope.
there doesn’t appear to be a torrent of it either.
Thanks for helping out, my search continues………….
did you try speaking to anyone on the phone? a lot of emails go astray these days due to spam filters, and it seems daft that a company would turn down business (however small), particularly as there may be a resurgence of interest in Exodus given recent events…
September 23, 2007 at 10:30 am #1141335renegadechicken wrote:Thanks for the sticky general lighting.Thanks for the link, but i ordered from there but don’t hold out much hope.
there doesn’t appear to be a torrent of it either.
Thanks for helping out, my search continues………….
did you try speaking to anyone on the phone? a lot of emails go astray these days due to spam filters, and it seems daft that a company would turn down business (however small), particularly as there may be a resurgence of interest in Exodus given recent events…
September 24, 2007 at 6:25 pm #1120571Spoke to Mark the director today, apparently i am the first person to request that and he will author and burn it to dvd for me for the princely sum of £16.45 including VAT and postage and packaging. It will take 10 days from when he receives payment.
Many thanks for your help guys…..much appreciated.
Rene :weee:
September 24, 2007 at 6:25 pm #1141338Spoke to Mark the director today, apparently i am the first person to request that and he will author and burn it to dvd for me for the princely sum of £16.45 including VAT and postage and packaging. It will take 10 days from when he receives payment.
Many thanks for your help guys…..much appreciated.
Rene :weee:
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