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  • #1055961
    AvatarThe Psyentist
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    I don’t listen to PV radio stations very often but that is because the times I scan through them the music often doesn’t appeal to me. I’ve never been a fan of Ambient, Drum ‘n’ bass and Techno but besides the Reggae channel the song selections could be better. Although that is only my opinion and perhaps I’ve tuned in at the wrong moments for me.

    Anyway I was wondering if there are enough PV members that listen to hardstyle to consider the possibility of a hardstyle channel?

    Edit: Been listening to breakbeat for a while actually and I’m liking this.

    #1273853
    AvatarIzbeckistan
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    Recently breakbeat is my go to channel.

    #1273834
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    I don’t mind hardstyle but today it has a more narrow following of mostly younger people aged 16-25 in Northern Europe. it is near enough mainstream pop music in some parts of NL, SLAM FM is a big radio station that plays a lot of it.

    the difficulty with scheduling stuff on PVR is that our recorded programme content is long mixed sets and not as easy to schedule on auto DJ due to technical limitations of the software used (a similar problem affects VFR which is why the selecrtion is random) and it takes a fair bit of time and effort to look after all the streams, basically we are running almost the same output as Hilversum media centre in NL but with volunteer staff spread across the whole world.

    And same as the hilversum stations we do not have totally unlimited resources so they get allocated to what is most popular worldwide.

    The EBU (European Broadcasters Union) sends me a magazine every quarter addressed to Party Vibe Radio as their boffins are genuinely interested in what we are doing here and how we do it as along with the rise of mobile telephone use and 3G data its changing European and global broadcasting.

    #1273849
    Avatarp0ly
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    cheese

    #1273835
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
    Moderator

    @p0lski 548289 wrote:

    cheese

    especially since learning Dutch I’m intrigued as to why it has such an “underground” image in UK as its really not any more underground than UK urban or pop dance genres. I don’t think its bad music but they basically socially engineered the gabba scene (more closer to our freeparty culture) to commercialise it and remove its rougher edges.

    #1273873
    Avatarpyross.
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    Go through phases of listening to it loads and then not listening to it for aaages

    #1273839
    AvatarBioTech
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    When it first surfaced its head in the UK around 1998 I thought it was brilliant. Bought a load of Tracid Traxx stuff but my interest in it waned in about a year after it was clear it was all very samey. Then Uberdruck put the nail in the coffin.

    All just my opinion though. Nothing against it really, just not my bag.

    #1273840
    AvatarBioTech
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    Hmmm, must have been 1999 not 98 as this was the first tune I bought.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuEP0PtMB3Q

    EDIT: Ha, just noticed one of the comments on above vid… “Hardstyle before Hardstyle was Hardstyle — I thank you, sir”

    #1273841
    AvatarBioTech
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    I think what Ishskur has to say about it is pretty accurate.

    “As what usually happens in the creation of new genres, you take one specific thing that makes another genre cool, and revolve your new genre entirely around it. So this is what happens when artists go “hey, that thunderous beat and bassline and squelching synthline sounds really cool”. Whamo, there you go: new genre (or nu, I should say)”

    #1273854
    AvatarThe Psyentist
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    @BioTech 548399 wrote:

    When it first surfaced its head in the UK around 1998 I thought it was brilliant. Bought a load of Tracid Traxx stuff but my interest in it waned in about a year after it was clear it was all very samey. Then Uberdruck put the nail in the coffin.

    All just my opinion though. Nothing against it really, just not my bag.

    I only started listening to it in 05 as I’m a spring chicken and still only 25, it still wasn’t very well known in the UK at that point to my knowledge. It was a few years later maybe 09 where I started to notice it become quite commercial and cheesy, there was and still is a lot of ‘generic hardstyle’ tracks now.

    Still love the old classics and listen to them regularly but even I have lost interest in the majority of modern hardstyle.

    #1273842
    AvatarBioTech
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    To be fair, I don’t really now what modern hardstyle sounds like, and the stuff I used to call hardstyle is probably now lumped together with Hard Trance.

    #1273836
    AvatarGeneral Lighting
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    it has gone cheesy because it is now mostly produced for and by Dutch high school and college kids and everyone on that scene wants to try and earn a few euros, plus they are still competing for radio airplay with our urban genres from the UK.

    the main radio station that plays hardstyle is run by the chap from endemol who made big brother and is about 50 years old. To illustrate this I just clicked on slam fm hardstyle stream and had to view an ad for stomach ache medicine :laugh_at:

    More disappointingly its on auto playout of single tracks without a presenter, which is a shame given the kind of kit they have at Hilversum, you would think that they would try and grow some new talent better (although they are trying to recruit for the daytime shows on SLAM but these are just like any zoo format radio but in Dutch).

    #1273867
    Avatarkorno
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    i’m involved with an awesome hard tekno scene here in edinburgh that consists of mainly hardcore and frenchcore but has lots of very hard tekno thrown in (not always acid though booo) but they is awesome and is the only hard stuff i will listen to as i find this other stuff quite cheezy and somewhat commercial

    #1273872
    Avatarseason.
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    I actually have never heard hardstyle played at parties where i am and i don’t really listen to much of it. I know it’s HUGE in the Netherlands and i think its actually quite big in parts of America too. But as other people have said i find it quite cheesy. It’s way further up the commercial spectrum as rave music goes i think

    #1273868
    Avatarkorno
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    Here’s a wee example of one of the DJ’s who produces his own stuff in ETC edinburgh Tekno Cartel
    https://soundcloud.com/alias23/alias23-intowinterdeathkore

    #1273852
    Avatarknow_hope
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    im not really in the know, but what ive experienced it seems to bridge the border between music that i like and music for numpties… went to a hardstyle night in plymouth once and there was an mc and later 2 fights, one on the dancefloor and the other spilling out onto the street…

    not really for me… im all about hugging trees but washing hair

    @The Psyentist 548405 wrote:

    I only started listening to it in 05 as I’m a spring chicken and still only 25

    25 is old for a chicken

    #1273869
    Avatarkorno
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    Haha but the natural oils in your hair are there to keep your hair clean maaan! You’re washing them away by using chemicals..
    No no no, that was once said about dogs too but it isn’t even true for them, so go wash yer hair and give ya smelly dog a bath too!

    #1273855
    AvatarThe Psyentist
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    @BioTech 548408 wrote:

    To be fair, I don’t really now what modern hardstyle sounds like, and the stuff I used to call hardstyle is probably now lumped together with Hard Trance.

    Modern hardstyle is essentially what all present day hardstyle sounds like. Most of it sounds the same and artists do little to create a unique and distinctive sound. I remember when I first started listening to it and the tracks I was hearing from the early 2000s were all fresh and different. Now it is difficult to determine one DJ’s set from another cos they all go for the same sound to please the masses rather than the true hardstyle fanatics.

    I understand perfectly why so many people like us who prefer the alternative way of life turn their noses up at hardstyle now.

    Also yes, Hennes and Cold always have and always will be hard trance to me, nothing wrong with that though.

    #1273856
    AvatarThe Psyentist
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    @BioTech 548401 wrote:

    Hmmm, must have been 1999 not 98 as this was the first tune I bought.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuEP0PtMB3Q

    EDIT: Ha, just noticed one of the comments on above vid… “Hardstyle before Hardstyle was Hardstyle — I thank you, sir”

    Nice track but that never qualified as hardstyle in my books. As I said that would be hard trance to me

    #1273874
    AvatarDeez
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    Not so much anymore, used to though.

    #1273875
    AvatarDeez
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    @BioTech 548401 wrote:

    Hmmm, must have been 1999 not 98 as this was the first tune I bought.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuEP0PtMB3Q

    EDIT: Ha, just noticed one of the comments on above vid… “Hardstyle before Hardstyle was Hardstyle — I thank you, sir”

    This is a fucking tune – to me this is hardstyle, but proper hardstyle.

    #1273850
    Avatardubstep_joe
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    I never understood the difference between hardstyle and hardcore. Someone englighten me.

    #1273870
    Avatarkorno
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    @The Psyentist 548470 wrote:

    Nice track but that never qualified as hardstyle in my books. As I said that would be hard trance to me

    that is well and truly trance to me , not hardstyle

    #1273851
    Avatardubstep_joe
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    @korno 548482 wrote:

    that is well and truly trance to me , not hardstyle

    Sounds like dubstep to me.

    #1273846
    Avatarthelog
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    I used to be mega into it back when it was kinda fresh, but it does get very old very quick same as hard trance.

    it would be played early on at slammin vinyl in the techno rooms before the speedcore and gabba would kick in

    I used to like this tune.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFNltaamoTs

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