welcome to PV – have fun here, but be careful!

Although I live 53 miles away and have never been to one of your events (I’m sure they are fun and friendly), I already know the DJ names of the bulk of your DJ’s, the real names of some of the crew, what town some of your crew live in, the rough ages of most of you, and the names of a lot of your mates. That is just from 10 seconds of using Google on your rig name (but eliminating other crews in foreign lands using your name) not any undercover stuff. I don’t even have a full farcebook profile, thats just what FB shares about you to google so advertisers can index it all!

So if I can do that, think what a police detective can do as they can just “show a badge and shield” to FB and Google and they cough up all sorts of of info.

What happens to young crews is because England is still a liberal, tolerant country the cops and locals do give people a couple of warnings but after that if they keep rinsing other peoples land things get unpleasant. I’ve already seen a few reports in Cambridge News where folk are complaining that “illegal raves are happening again”. Quite often locals, even the landowners won’t make a big fuss as they feel intimidated by you and even cops don’t want a riot to happen but it doesn’t mean that everyone is happy with what you are doing. I know no one means to do this but when you make other feel bullied and powerless, they fight back. thats what a lot of my friends here learned the hard way 😥

Of course if your shindigs are done using the cheap TENS licenses and run well no one can bother you! This is what they are now doing in London and even the cops are letting the events be promoted same as unlicensed ones (with semi secret venues) as it actually improves security by keeping away chavs and muppets.

there’s a chap from BSE (not that far away from you lot) asking about doing events, in his thread there’s a link to how to get the licenses. They are less than £30 and not much more hassle than organising a legit hall party (not one where people do foolishness like lie to the owners about their details).

Pub ones are usually OK, provided the event doesn’t breach the existing license conditions. But Eastern constabularies have actually been busting private parties including peoples house parties the moment the neighbours complain!

Even if its your mates farm/barn, the neighbours have a right to complain and when/if they do the cops will investigate. Also what can happen is crews from other areas try and rinse your ends because they think cops are a soft touch. There’s been a couple such cases in Beds and Herts, although they have had the power to do this since the late 80s (to stop posh kids with big houses and land holding raves on it as some of the hooray henries were doing just that back in the day) this is the first time I’ve seen the law used.

in any case I’m sure you respect your friends so would not want to bring bad publicity to their farm/other business in times of economic depression…

BTW there are a lot of slightly older people in East Anglia who are very environment concious, and if some crew could do parties what used only a fraction of energy/resources of previous ones and did not depend so much on access to 50+cars/big vehicles for rigs but were just as fun/good much of the local community would support these things rather than call 999 on them… I’ve chatted to loads of folk in the last 7 years who have said that they don’t think raves are that bad and nor should the Police bust them heavily, they are better and lower impact than townie nightlife and that there maybe should be more licensed events.

Most are aged around 50-75, they’ve got kids the same age as many ravers (or who might even be ravers) and they want a safe environment for them – and these folk are very clever middle class people with good jobs in places like British Telecom and the other high tech companies around EA, they are active in local community groups and green politics and have a lot of respect and power..