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    process
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      thought id put this in here as i didnt want everyone seeing it. but this girl i knew through parties died of an overdose after staying up the next day after a party. Apparently she overdosed on Fentanyl

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl

      Ive never heard of it before. just makes you think that maybe everybody should be a bit more carefull when staying up caining it for days on end. i didnt know her that well. still pretty shocked tho.

      #1161820
      General Lighting
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        fentanyl is fucking nasty stuff! it is what the spetznaz (Soviet/Russian élite forces) used to “liberate” the hostages during the cinema siege, they used too much and and killed more hostages than the terrorists.

        worse still this was most likely to have been robbed of a terminal cancer patient as NHS try to avoid its use for anything else, it is too dangerous..

        #1219799
        General Lighting
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          fentanyl is fucking nasty stuff! it is what the spetznaz (Soviet/Russian élite forces) used to “liberate” the hostages during the cinema siege, they used too much and and killed more hostages than the terrorists.

          worse still this was most likely to have been robbed of a terminal cancer patient as NHS try to avoid its use for anything else, it is too dangerous..

          #1161831
          GiantMidget
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            Jesus sorry to hear bout that mate. That’s the trouble with drugs, do too many and this is the result. Thoughts go out to her family.

            I’ve never heard of this stuff before but looking at it on Wiki, looks well dodgy.

            #1219822
            GiantMidget
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              Jesus sorry to hear bout that mate. That’s the trouble with drugs, do too many and this is the result. Thoughts go out to her family.

              I’ve never heard of this stuff before but looking at it on Wiki, looks well dodgy.

              #1161821
              General Lighting
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                DJCliffy wrote:
                Jesus sorry to hear bout that mate. That’s the trouble with drugs, do too many and this is the result. Thoughts go out to her family.

                I’ve never heard of this stuff before but looking at it on Wiki, looks well dodgy.

                sadly this is always a risk at the “sketchy afterparty” moments, people’s reserves are down and they want to prolong the buzz and try more stuff

                fentanyl and its derivatives are just lethal though. They are rarely used recreationally because they are so risky,

                worse is immobilon (the vets version, even stronger) – and its possible this stuff may have been robbed out of a vet

                if a deer is darted with it they have to tag it with a biblical-sounding “EAT NOT” ear tag as the residues in the meat would be hazardous to humans

                #1219801
                General Lighting
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                  DJCliffy wrote:
                  Jesus sorry to hear bout that mate. That’s the trouble with drugs, do too many and this is the result. Thoughts go out to her family.

                  I’ve never heard of this stuff before but looking at it on Wiki, looks well dodgy.

                  sadly this is always a risk at the “sketchy afterparty” moments, people’s reserves are down and they want to prolong the buzz and try more stuff

                  fentanyl and its derivatives are just lethal though. They are rarely used recreationally because they are so risky,

                  worse is immobilon (the vets version, even stronger) – and its possible this stuff may have been robbed out of a vet

                  if a deer is darted with it they have to tag it with a biblical-sounding “EAT NOT” ear tag as the residues in the meat would be hazardous to humans

                  #1161832
                  GiantMidget
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                    Mate looking at that Fentanyl and it does sound like horrible shit. Fuck doing that stuff!

                    #1219823
                    GiantMidget
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                      Mate looking at that Fentanyl and it does sound like horrible shit. Fuck doing that stuff!

                      #1161827
                      process
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                        DJCliffy wrote:
                        Mate looking at that Fentanyl and it does sound like horrible shit. Fuck doing that stuff!

                        yeah as i say i never knew her properly, didnt realise she was into that sort of shit. I wasnt there, but apparently everybody else had gone to bed and they found her in the morning. fucking horrible.

                        #1219814
                        process
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                          DJCliffy wrote:
                          Mate looking at that Fentanyl and it does sound like horrible shit. Fuck doing that stuff!

                          yeah as i say i never knew her properly, didnt realise she was into that sort of shit. I wasnt there, but apparently everybody else had gone to bed and they found her in the morning. fucking horrible.

                          #1161822
                          General Lighting
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                            djprocess wrote:
                            yeah as i say i never knew her properly, didnt realise she was into that sort of shit. I wasnt there, but apparently everybody else had gone to bed and they found her in the morning. fucking horrible.

                            its normally people what “aren’t into that sort of shit” who pay the ultimate price as they haven’t got tolerance :hopeless:

                            its literally one of those drugs where you pass out and don’t wake up again, often used as a suicide drug in foreign countries where human euthanasia is permitted

                            if this happened amongst clubbers/ravers I’d also expect the feds to start keeping a close watch on the “party drugs scenes as when its someones “little princess” they tend to go into “anti drugs crusade” mode :hopeless:

                            #1219803
                            General Lighting
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                              djprocess wrote:
                              yeah as i say i never knew her properly, didnt realise she was into that sort of shit. I wasnt there, but apparently everybody else had gone to bed and they found her in the morning. fucking horrible.

                              its normally people what “aren’t into that sort of shit” who pay the ultimate price as they haven’t got tolerance :hopeless:

                              its literally one of those drugs where you pass out and don’t wake up again, often used as a suicide drug in foreign countries where human euthanasia is permitted

                              if this happened amongst clubbers/ravers I’d also expect the feds to start keeping a close watch on the “party drugs scenes as when its someones “little princess” they tend to go into “anti drugs crusade” mode :hopeless:

                              #1161828
                              process
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                                General Lighting wrote:
                                its normally people what “aren’t into that sort of shit” who pay the ultimate price as they haven’t got tolerance :hopeless:

                                its literally one of those drugs where you pass out and don’t wake up again, often used as a suicide drug in foreign countries where human euthanasia is permitted

                                if this happened amongst clubbers/ravers I’d also expect the feds to start keeping a close watch on the “party drugs scenes as when its someones “little princess” they tend to go into “anti drugs crusade” mode :hopeless:

                                thats why i posted it in here as the last thing the free party scene needs is another death assosiated with ‘illegal raves’ The media would absolutly love this story if they got hold of it. she wasnt some little girl tho, i think she was in her late 30’s… i feel really bad for the guy that found her. dont think my head could cope with that. Also the cops are charging him wth supply, which i thought was particularily caring of them!

                                #1219816
                                process
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                                  General Lighting wrote:
                                  its normally people what “aren’t into that sort of shit” who pay the ultimate price as they haven’t got tolerance :hopeless:

                                  its literally one of those drugs where you pass out and don’t wake up again, often used as a suicide drug in foreign countries where human euthanasia is permitted

                                  if this happened amongst clubbers/ravers I’d also expect the feds to start keeping a close watch on the “party drugs scenes as when its someones “little princess” they tend to go into “anti drugs crusade” mode :hopeless:

                                  thats why i posted it in here as the last thing the free party scene needs is another death assosiated with ‘illegal raves’ The media would absolutly love this story if they got hold of it. she wasnt some little girl tho, i think she was in her late 30’s… i feel really bad for the guy that found her. dont think my head could cope with that. Also the cops are charging him wth supply, which i thought was particularily caring of them!

                                  #1161823
                                  General Lighting
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                                    djprocess wrote:
                                    thats why i posted it in here as the last thing the free party scene needs is another death assosiated with ‘illegal raves’ The media would absolutly love this story if they got hold of it.

                                    they will (not from here as you used your brains, but maybe just via the coroners press office or even leaks from NHS) but just as a generic “toll of drugs culture” thing probably linked with pubs/clubs/binge drinking

                                    for many normal people licensed clubs and illegal raves are viewed as the same moral cesspool.

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                                    she wasnt some little girl tho, i think she was in her late 30’s…

                                    still someones daughter, families are strange, they disown someone and then wring their hands when it all goes pear shaped (we learned that in Ipswich 2006)

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                                    i feel really bad for the guy that found her. dont think my head could cope with that. Also the cops are charging him wth supply, which i thought was particularily caring of them!

                                    thats the standard procedure unfortunately (think of what happened to Mark Speight)

                                    #1219806
                                    General Lighting
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                                      djprocess wrote:
                                      thats why i posted it in here as the last thing the free party scene needs is another death assosiated with ‘illegal raves’ The media would absolutly love this story if they got hold of it.

                                      they will (not from here as you used your brains, but maybe just via the coroners press office or even leaks from NHS) but just as a generic “toll of drugs culture” thing probably linked with pubs/clubs/binge drinking

                                      for many normal people licensed clubs and illegal raves are viewed as the same moral cesspool.

                                      Quote:
                                      she wasnt some little girl tho, i think she was in her late 30’s…

                                      still someones daughter, families are strange, they disown someone and then wring their hands when it all goes pear shaped (we learned that in Ipswich 2006)

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                                      i feel really bad for the guy that found her. dont think my head could cope with that. Also the cops are charging him wth supply, which i thought was particularily caring of them!

                                      thats the standard procedure unfortunately (think of what happened to Mark Speight)

                                      #1161833
                                      Dom_sufc
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                                        Shit thats a right pity 🙁

                                        Reading the Wiki page though, 81 times that of Morphine?!? That’s some strong shit.

                                        #1219825
                                        Dom_sufc
                                        Participant

                                          Shit thats a right pity 🙁

                                          Reading the Wiki page though, 81 times that of Morphine?!? That’s some strong shit.

                                          #1161829
                                          process
                                          Participant
                                            General Lighting wrote:
                                            they will (not from here as you used your brains, but maybe just via the coroners press office or even leaks from NHS) but just as a generic “toll of drugs culture” thing probably linked with pubs/clubs/binge drinking

                                            obviously i hope it doesnt even make the news as any attention is going to be horrible for all those involved, but theres a big difference between a headline about a overdose at home or the one which could read as ‘girl overdoses on smack after illegal rave!’ headline tho. I just hope it doesnt come out that she was at a party that evening.
                                            either way its a shit situation what ever way you look at it:hopeless:

                                            #1219818
                                            process
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                                              General Lighting wrote:
                                              they will (not from here as you used your brains, but maybe just via the coroners press office or even leaks from NHS) but just as a generic “toll of drugs culture” thing probably linked with pubs/clubs/binge drinking

                                              obviously i hope it doesnt even make the news as any attention is going to be horrible for all those involved, but theres a big difference between a headline about a overdose at home or the one which could read as ‘girl overdoses on smack after illegal rave!’ headline tho. I just hope it doesnt come out that she was at a party that evening.
                                              either way its a shit situation what ever way you look at it:hopeless:

                                              #1161824
                                              General Lighting
                                              Moderator
                                                djprocess wrote:
                                                obviously i hope it doesnt even make the news as any attention is going to be horrible for all those involved, but theres a big difference between a headline about a overdose at home or the one which could read as ‘girl overdoses on smack after illegal rave!’ headline tho. I just hope it doesnt come out that she was at a party that evening.
                                                either way its a shit situation what ever way you look at it:hopeless:

                                                if the family are lucky only the DAAT (drugs and alcohol action team) will get info on the case minus the name

                                                so if anything it will only get a passing mention in local media, but these sorts of incidents do get monitored by the NHS and the cops and it will eventually shape enforcement and surveillance of the “drugs scene” in that area

                                                I remember you mentioning how you used to live round this way (Suffolk)

                                                I was doing a bit of digging and found that as early as 2003/04 the DAAT was keeping a close watch on how people were moving from the “rave scene” to the “habitual usage” patterns

                                                they had lists of every overdose/addiction case, not names but numbers, set out across each NHS and police region – this was what led to such heavy clampdowns in our county, even on licensed clubs. Its near impossible to do any dance event in Ipswich or Stow without cops sticking their nose in now…

                                                #1219808
                                                General Lighting
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                                                  djprocess wrote:
                                                  obviously i hope it doesnt even make the news as any attention is going to be horrible for all those involved, but theres a big difference between a headline about a overdose at home or the one which could read as ‘girl overdoses on smack after illegal rave!’ headline tho. I just hope it doesnt come out that she was at a party that evening.
                                                  either way its a shit situation what ever way you look at it:hopeless:

                                                  if the family are lucky only the DAAT (drugs and alcohol action team) will get info on the case minus the name

                                                  so if anything it will only get a passing mention in local media, but these sorts of incidents do get monitored by the NHS and the cops and it will eventually shape enforcement and surveillance of the “drugs scene” in that area

                                                  I remember you mentioning how you used to live round this way (Suffolk)

                                                  I was doing a bit of digging and found that as early as 2003/04 the DAAT was keeping a close watch on how people were moving from the “rave scene” to the “habitual usage” patterns

                                                  they had lists of every overdose/addiction case, not names but numbers, set out across each NHS and police region – this was what led to such heavy clampdowns in our county, even on licensed clubs. Its near impossible to do any dance event in Ipswich or Stow without cops sticking their nose in now…

                                                  #1161830
                                                  process
                                                  Participant
                                                    General Lighting wrote:
                                                    if the family are lucky only the DAAT (drugs and alcohol action team) will get info on the case minus the name

                                                    so if anything it will only get a passing mention in local media, but these sorts of incidents do get monitored by the NHS and the cops and it will eventually shape enforcement and surveillance of the “drugs scene” in that area

                                                    I remember you mentioning how you used to live round this way (Suffolk)

                                                    I was doing a bit of digging and found that as early as 2003/04 the DAAT was keeping a close watch on how people were moving from the “rave scene” to the “habitual usage” patterns

                                                    they had lists of every overdose/addiction case, not names but numbers, set out across each NHS and police region – this was what led to such heavy clampdowns in our county, even on licensed clubs. Its near impossible to do any dance event in Ipswich or Stow without cops sticking their nose in now…

                                                    from my experience its not just the rave scene that like their drugs round that area, but pretty much everyone. I suppose thats what you get when you live in a total shit hole in the arse end of nowhere with nothing much to do.
                                                    Im sure where you live is lovely tho:wink:

                                                    #1219820
                                                    process
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                                                      General Lighting wrote:
                                                      if the family are lucky only the DAAT (drugs and alcohol action team) will get info on the case minus the name

                                                      so if anything it will only get a passing mention in local media, but these sorts of incidents do get monitored by the NHS and the cops and it will eventually shape enforcement and surveillance of the “drugs scene” in that area

                                                      I remember you mentioning how you used to live round this way (Suffolk)

                                                      I was doing a bit of digging and found that as early as 2003/04 the DAAT was keeping a close watch on how people were moving from the “rave scene” to the “habitual usage” patterns

                                                      they had lists of every overdose/addiction case, not names but numbers, set out across each NHS and police region – this was what led to such heavy clampdowns in our county, even on licensed clubs. Its near impossible to do any dance event in Ipswich or Stow without cops sticking their nose in now…

                                                      from my experience its not just the rave scene that like their drugs round that area, but pretty much everyone. I suppose thats what you get when you live in a total shit hole in the arse end of nowhere with nothing much to do.
                                                      Im sure where you live is lovely tho:wink:

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