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    General Lighting
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      I’ve just looked at BBC news – seems its a bit heavy where you are at the moment..

      If you can see this message and they haven’t shut off the internet or are forcibly closing down cybercafes….

      please let us know that and your friends/family are OK…

      I hope things aren’t getting too rough out there…

      #1090128
      Raj
      Participant

        i have an unpleasant suspicion that everything is shut down there at the moment – there is a total news blackout from the rest of the world tv networks at the very least :hopeless::hopeless::hopeless:

        #1090137
        the rev
        Participant

          Been away from the radio all day whats going on?

          #1090129
          Raj
          Participant

            thailand has had a military coup of the country

            :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

            all tv channels closed bar the one controlled by the military and all foreign networks transmission stopped

            #1090138
            the rev
            Participant

              http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5361512.stm

              dont worry i see it all now. pretty heavy!

              #1090115
              General Lighting
              Moderator

                as of now it seems that public web servers from government depts and a major ISP in Thailand remain accessible.

                The chap who has been “deposed” runs many of the telecommunications networks so not sure what may develop…

                10 years ago it would be difficult to disrupt “subversive” net traffic without disrupting commercial business…

                OTOH (and this would be really ironic if it were the case) if TH uses the filtering/blocking technology that most countries have in some form or another on their network large-scale net censorship can be a fairly trival matter provided the Army Signals Regiment (or whatever they are called out there) can take physical and electronic control of the telephone exchanges and knows how to work the software..

                #1090122
                globalloon
                Participant

                  no fucking way :crazy:

                  #1090116
                  General Lighting
                  Moderator

                    it seems that net traffic is still coming through to BBC News.

                    A lot of Thais seem fairly unperturbed with the goings on – there have been 17 coups in Thailand since 1932 – the exiled PM is seen as corrupt and a wheeler dealer (even by SE Asian standards), who had annoyed much of the population by selling a stake in his own business to Singapore to evade tax!

                    At present they are reporting little violence and seem to be relatively supportive of the coup! Of course true freedom goes out the window in these sort of situations and situations can become tense for foreigners…

                    #1090123
                    globalloon
                    Participant

                      as much as you want a corrupt politician out of office, handing power to the military is never good

                      #1090139
                      the rev
                      Participant

                        Ah yes military intelligence, the ultimate oxymoron perhaps.:you_crazy

                        #1090134
                        benbear
                        Participant

                          I’m in the middle of a milatry co. :you_crazy
                          Thanks for concern everyone but it’s not that bad really.:wink:

                          Give it a week and it will go back to normal as long as Taxin doesn’t comeback. God let’s hope he stay’s away.:you_crazy
                          Seen a really big tank today and lot’s of teenage soilders.
                          Burn babylon burn. :groucho:
                          Oh well no work for me for the next week so I’ll walk around Bangkok with my eyes open and ear to the ground. Last night I picked up girlfriend and we were stoped by soilders and asked ??????? One question was to me.
                          He looked at me and said in a dad tone ” What time do you call this ” I thought and looked at my watch and said “12 o clock ” he then stared at me and said ” I surgest you take this seriously “.
                          I mean what a ? it was to me,what answer did he expect ? 😉
                          Anyway got home safely and got a big hug from her so it’s all good. :love:
                          In the morning we found a complete media blackout and have only been aloud internet access in the last 5 mins and have only 20 mins left as there is a cue of farrang waiting.
                          So a little panic has swept though Bangkok but everybody is o.k and Kirsty cool so, so far so good 😉
                          So here’s what’s happening with a more serious look via the B.B.C ( I’m sure you already know but hey this is the info I know ) 😉

                          Thailand’s military tightens grip.

                          Troops have been told not to talk about their deployment.

                          Tanks in Bangkok

                          Thai military leaders have begun consolidating their hold on power after staging a coup while the prime minister was at the UN General Assembly.
                          Martial law has been declared, and the coup leaders have announced that regional commanders will take charge of areas outside the capital, Bangkok.
                          Army chief Gen Sonthi Boonyaratglin said in a TV address that the coup was necessary to unite the country.
                          The military had no intention of holding onto power, he added.
                          If the caretaker government is allowed to govern, it will hurt the country
                          Gen Sonthi Boonyaratglin
                          Coup leader
                          Flanked by the heads of the three services and the police, and backed by giant portraits of the king and queen, Gen Sonthi said in the brief address that Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s policies had created serious divisions.
                          “We have seized power. The constitution, the senate, the house of representatives, the cabinet and the constitutional court have all been terminated,” he said.
                          “We agreed that the caretaker prime minister has caused an unprecedented rift in society, widespread corruption, nepotism, and interfered in independent agencies, crippling them so they cannot function.
                          “If the caretaker government is allowed to govern it will hurt the country.
                          “They have also repeatedly insulted the king. Thus the council needed to seize power to control the situation, to restore normality and to create unity as soon as possible.”
                          The coup leaders have ordered provincial governors and heads of government agencies to report to them in the coming hours.
                          The country’s stock market, banks and schools will be closed on Wednesday, which has been declared a public holiday.
                          BBC World, CNN and other international TV news channels have been taken off the air, while Thai stations have broadcast footage of the royal family and patriotic songs.
                          Mr Thaksin cancelled a speech he was due to give at the UN General Assembly in New York on Tuesday evening.
                          It is unclear whether he intends to return home.
                          Declaration of loyalty
                          Tuesday saw soldiers seize government offices in Bangkok and take up strategic positions around the city.

                          In pictures: Coup in Thailand
                          Coup leaders’ statements
                          Britons in Bangkok warned
                          The rebels have visited King Bhumibol Adulyadej and declared loyalty to him.
                          Many of the soldiers on the streets are wearing yellow armbands to signify loyalty to the king.
                          King Bhumibol, who is highly revered by Thais, has made no comment about whether he backs the takeover attempt.
                          But there has been some negative reaction from abroad.
                          The EU’s Finnish presidency expressed “grave concern” at events, and the US called on Thais “to resolve their political differences in a peaceful manner”.
                          Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said he deeply regretted the fact that the coup had taken place, while New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark urged politicians and military to resolve their differences democratically.
                          UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said the organisation supported changes of government through democratic means rather than by the barrel of a gun.
                          ‘Unease’
                          Pressure had been growing on the prime minister to resign, including from groups close to King Bhumibol, following a political impasse in which April’s general election was declared invalid.
                          Troops and guys dressed in Swat-style gear are strolling around
                          Russell Miles, Bangkok

                          Witnesses describe turmoil
                          Send us your comments
                          But the BBC’s Jonathan Head in Bangkok reports that while many people wanted Mr Thaksin out of office, there will be unease about the way this has happened, and people will be looking to see whether the king has supported the coup.
                          It is the first coup attempt in 15 years in a country where they used to be commonplace. There were 17 of them between 1932 and 1991.
                          Opposition Senator Mechai Viravaidya welcomed Mr Thaksin’s departure, despite doubts about the methods used.
                          “I’m delighted he’s gone,” he said. “It would have been great if he had resigned voluntarily, but apparently he was too stubborn. But at least it’s better than an assassination.”
                          But government spokesman Surapong Suebwonglee, speaking from New York, said he was confident the coup would fail .

                          peace, love and unity http://www.myspace.com/benbear76
                          Ben

                          #1090132
                          Angel
                          Moderator

                            That is so great to hear that you are okay..

                            Please take care:love:

                            #1090117
                            General Lighting
                            Moderator

                              Glad to hear you are OK benbear! Thankfully so far it seems to be a fairly bloodless coup – although I suppose there is a longer term risk that the new government may be more socially conservative (i.e keeping the curfews etc going) to encourage “stability”… not quite a dictatorship but a similar régime to Malaysia?

                              #1090143
                              Shit Robot
                              Participant

                                Glad to hear you are OK Benbear:love::love::love::love:

                                #1090121
                                BioTech
                                Participant

                                  Likewise mate, I’m glad to hear you are ok.

                                  A friend of mine has just returned from Thailand, barely missing all the hassle.

                                  #1090125
                                  SdZ
                                  Participant

                                    Glad you and the Mrs are cool Ben. Good to hear from ya 🙂

                                    #1090140
                                    the rev
                                    Participant
                                      BioTech wrote:
                                      Likewise mate, I’m glad to hear you are ok.

                                      A friend of mine has just returned from Thailand, barely missing all the hassle.

                                      Just found out a mates brother flew out sunday. By the sounds of things he’ll be ok tho’. Not the sort of thing you expect on your holiday.

                                      #1090130
                                      Raj
                                      Participant

                                        glad you are ok benbear and thanks for the info too :weee:

                                        take care and may it remain a peaceful coup:weee:

                                        #1090141
                                        PHARTY
                                        Participant
                                          General Lighting wrote:
                                          it seems that net traffic is still coming through to BBC News.

                                          A lot of Thais seem fairly unperturbed with the goings on – there have been 17 coups in Thailand since 1932 – the exiled PM is seen as corrupt and a wheeler dealer (even by SE Asian standards), who had annoyed much of the population by selling a stake in his own business to Singapore to evade tax!

                                          At present they are reporting little violence and seem to be relatively supportive of the coup! Of course true freedom goes out the window in these sort of situations and situations can become tense for foreigners…

                                          The last time they had a coup I was there back in 91 92 93 and when the fair was in Bangkok on christmas 2004 my mate Terry had the honor of strapping Thaksin into the slingshot on the opening nite of the fair …if only Terry hadnt of done his job so well whilst doing up his straps he could of become a living leg-end as the man who killed Thaksin:weee:

                                          #1090124
                                          Acidfairy
                                          Participant

                                            Glad to hear you’re ok thanks for updating us all.. :love:

                                            #1090118
                                            General Lighting
                                            Moderator

                                              apparently the coup is only gonna last 2 weeks and then the Army want to appoint a civillian government, which will produce a new constitution and then hold proper elections.

                                              I just looked on the news and those Buddhist monks (the guys who keep the pet tigers) are in the streets taking photos of each other standing by the tanks..

                                              Whilst coups are bad things its dodgy to judge an Eastern country by so-called “Western standards”. And TBH how “democratic” is Great Britain or America? There are known election irregularities in the USA, in this country only half the people voted and when people lobby their elected politicians the politicians often refuse to listen!

                                              When my mum saw the news she said my relatives have most of the King of Thailand’s records (he is a jazz musician!)

                                              Apparently he still has a concert every weekend despite being fairly elderly now….

                                              #1090135
                                              benbear
                                              Participant

                                                Big thanks to partyvibe and everyone who was concerned.
                                                But to put your minds at ease I took some pics. HAHAHAHAHA :crazy_dru :crazy_dru

                                                #1090133
                                                Angel
                                                Moderator

                                                  :laugh_at: :laugh_at: :laugh_at:

                                                  Like the part with flowers and ribbons,they actually look like they are having a great time..

                                                  #1090119
                                                  General Lighting
                                                  Moderator

                                                    yep, a few days ago the King and the General who is leading the coup told the soldiers to be friendly to everyone and to smile!

                                                    Like Ben said most of the soldiers are young people; they were probably frightened at the start and now it must be very boring.

                                                    BTW the Prime Minister who the soldiers kicked out was the same chap who dealt with a “drugs problem” by handing out guns not just to cops but also to Civil Servants and then told them to go into the poor areas and “shoot all the junkies” (which they did, leaving over 2000 dead).

                                                    Also he sold his families telephone company to Singapore and did not pay any personal tax – whilst promising reforms and rebuilding projects that never happened (much of Thailand is still quite poor and it got trashed during that recent tsunami)

                                                    So perhaps the coup may even be the lesser of many evils..

                                                    #1090126
                                                    SdZ
                                                    Participant

                                                      great to see some pics :bounce_fl

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