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    MisterDuck
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      it’s fucking brilliant, it’s like an adrenaline fuelled movie in book form. i stay well clear of the film, don’t wanna ruin it!

      its all convinced me even more to go travellin straight after college, proper backpackin like, not the cushdy hotels n lonely planet guide stuff!

      raaa

      #1123088
      globalloon
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        boothy wrote:
        lonely planet guide stuff!

        raaa

        avoid all guide books like the plague, the are the devil, seriously

        #1143991
        globalloon
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          boothy wrote:
          lonely planet guide stuff!

          raaa

          avoid all guide books like the plague, the are the devil, seriously

          #1123093
          MisterDuck
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            globalloon wrote:
            avoid all guide books like the plague, the are the devil, seriously

            yeah man apparently they spoil locations, like summat is fresh n new, and the lonely planet/whatever picks up on it, then everyone goes there and spoils it

            its also not my idea of proper explorin the world

            #1143996
            MisterDuck
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              globalloon wrote:
              avoid all guide books like the plague, the are the devil, seriously

              yeah man apparently they spoil locations, like summat is fresh n new, and the lonely planet/whatever picks up on it, then everyone goes there and spoils it

              its also not my idea of proper explorin the world

              #1123089
              globalloon
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                even in well travelled places, there will be two places to stay right next to each other, one will be packed full of sheep and the other will be struggling to feed themselves, because one has a recommendation

                in some cases restaurants / hotels / attractions lay on loads for the writers, but treat their regular customers like shit… i lived on the roof a hostel in the palestinian ghetto of Tel Aviv for a while. it was a health / fire hazard from hell. rough guide were put up in an apartment in central tel aviv and waited on hand and foot by the owner for a week

                stuff goes out of date long before it comes to print

                in one guide i saw for argentina it actually said “look out for holes in the ground”… :you_crazy what it should have said was “if you are so stupid that you need a book to tell you to not fall in a hole, don’t leave your house”

                the entire lonely planet / rough guides to the whole continent of latin america are about 800 pages long. 800 pages too long IMO, but how can you fit 20 countries into 40 pages?

                anywhere you go, speak to people, go to tourist information, ask the person you are staying with, it will be much more interesting

                these books were good once upon a time, when they were written by enthusiasts, but now it’s all contracted piece work and they are crap

                #1143992
                globalloon
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                  even in well travelled places, there will be two places to stay right next to each other, one will be packed full of sheep and the other will be struggling to feed themselves, because one has a recommendation

                  in some cases restaurants / hotels / attractions lay on loads for the writers, but treat their regular customers like shit… i lived on the roof a hostel in the palestinian ghetto of Tel Aviv for a while. it was a health / fire hazard from hell. rough guide were put up in an apartment in central tel aviv and waited on hand and foot by the owner for a week

                  stuff goes out of date long before it comes to print

                  in one guide i saw for argentina it actually said “look out for holes in the ground”… :you_crazy what it should have said was “if you are so stupid that you need a book to tell you to not fall in a hole, don’t leave your house”

                  the entire lonely planet / rough guides to the whole continent of latin america are about 800 pages long. 800 pages too long IMO, but how can you fit 20 countries into 40 pages?

                  anywhere you go, speak to people, go to tourist information, ask the person you are staying with, it will be much more interesting

                  these books were good once upon a time, when they were written by enthusiasts, but now it’s all contracted piece work and they are crap

                  #1123094
                  MisterDuck
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                    do you know of any sort of… guides that are proper guides, like a community website of proper backpackers?

                    although i dont wanna go by a shitty guidebook, i’d love to talk to people about different places, the real travellers tho i mean

                    #1143997
                    MisterDuck
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                      do you know of any sort of… guides that are proper guides, like a community website of proper backpackers?

                      although i dont wanna go by a shitty guidebook, i’d love to talk to people about different places, the real travellers tho i mean

                      #1123090
                      globalloon
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                        sorry, no i don’t. i think people who live the life would be likely to avoid it anyway. word of mouth is always best 😉

                        actually, as much as i slate all the guide books, they sometimes have some good historical / cultural context bits at the beginning that can inspire you to find out more about a culture / country / language before you go

                        the CIA website is also surprisingly informative

                        #1143993
                        globalloon
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                          sorry, no i don’t. i think people who live the life would be likely to avoid it anyway. word of mouth is always best 😉

                          actually, as much as i slate all the guide books, they sometimes have some good historical / cultural context bits at the beginning that can inspire you to find out more about a culture / country / language before you go

                          the CIA website is also surprisingly informative

                          #1123091
                          Tank Girl
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                            boothy wrote:
                            it’s fucking brilliant, it’s like an adrenaline fuelled movie in book form. i stay well clear of the film, don’t wanna ruin it!

                            its all convinced me even more to go travellin straight after college, proper backpackin like, not the cushdy hotels n lonely planet guide stuff!

                            raaa

                            indeed I read it when it came out, and loved it

                            totally dissapointed with the film, (as usual if read the book before hand)

                            he also wrote the tessaract (sp?) but I just couldnt get into it…

                            #1143994
                            Tank Girl
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                              boothy wrote:
                              it’s fucking brilliant, it’s like an adrenaline fuelled movie in book form. i stay well clear of the film, don’t wanna ruin it!

                              its all convinced me even more to go travellin straight after college, proper backpackin like, not the cushdy hotels n lonely planet guide stuff!

                              raaa

                              indeed I read it when it came out, and loved it

                              totally dissapointed with the film, (as usual if read the book before hand)

                              he also wrote the tessaract (sp?) but I just couldnt get into it…

                              #1123095
                              tarifa
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                                yes ythe beach had good stuff, findin a deserted get away etc but has everyone forgotten the poor bastards killed, especially the chap they let rot in agony in the tent?!

                                #1143998
                                tarifa
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                                  yes ythe beach had good stuff, findin a deserted get away etc but has everyone forgotten the poor bastards killed, especially the chap they let rot in agony in the tent?!

                                  #1123096
                                  Brucifer
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                                    yep, it is a great book. Much better than the film. The characters are a lot different and also so is the plot.

                                    For those going traveling, I recomend reading a bit of lonely planet, but just to get an idea of the place where ya going. When you get to where ever ya going, chat to the locals and other travelers for recomendation and most importantly, what to avoid.

                                    #1143999
                                    Brucifer
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                                      yep, it is a great book. Much better than the film. The characters are a lot different and also so is the plot.

                                      For those going traveling, I recomend reading a bit of lonely planet, but just to get an idea of the place where ya going. When you get to where ever ya going, chat to the locals and other travelers for recomendation and most importantly, what to avoid.

                                      #1123092
                                      Agent Subby
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                                        globalloon wrote:
                                        sorry, no i don’t. i think people who live the life would be likely to avoid it anyway. word of mouth is always best 😉

                                        actually, as much as i slate all the guide books, they sometimes have some good historical / cultural context bits at the beginning that can inspire you to find out more about a culture / country / language before you go

                                        the CIA website is also surprisingly informative

                                        Going back on yourself here hey fella?:wink:
                                        No I know exactly what you mean. I know of places that give LP a backhander just so they can be in their book. I find LP’s recommendations are okay for the first couple of nights and then ‘word of mouth’ is always the best route.

                                        #1143995
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                                          globalloon wrote:
                                          sorry, no i don’t. i think people who live the life would be likely to avoid it anyway. word of mouth is always best 😉

                                          actually, as much as i slate all the guide books, they sometimes have some good historical / cultural context bits at the beginning that can inspire you to find out more about a culture / country / language before you go

                                          the CIA website is also surprisingly informative

                                          Going back on yourself here hey fella?:wink:
                                          No I know exactly what you mean. I know of places that give LP a backhander just so they can be in their book. I find LP’s recommendations are okay for the first couple of nights and then ‘word of mouth’ is always the best route.

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