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General Lighting wrote:

proper random stuff there, a mixture of fortean times with neo-Soviet ideology..

so you think they are making this stuff up? i hope so – it’s really doing my head in – people can’t grow thorns. aarrrgh!

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So am I alone in thinking the purpose of the trial is mostly propaganda? :surprised

dan u wrote:

1. why is a hippy reading the FT? trustafarian?

he has a pink bathroom

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J. B’Stard. wrote:

Looks fairly unbiased to me Ed.

Peugeot moving production from an extremely expensive plant to a cheaper plant (facilitated by our shit employment laws)

No no, ‘Saddam signed death warrants’

come on, nobody gives a fuck about 148 peasants from some poxy Iraqi village. nobody cares about the Saddam trial in Iraq, nobody cares about it here, but it’s front page news…. hmmmm

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J. B’Stard. wrote:

So you’re conceding that they do indeed give the government a hard time, and that they aren’t a source of propaganda?

Safe.

😛

More Grumble: words->mouth etc

but the smiley made me do a LOL!

Take a look at the front page of BBC News now…. tell me what the effect of that story is going to be and if that’s not an awfully convenient result for the establishment then you can put a marmot down my slacks and call me Susan.

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J. B’Stard. wrote:

How often do you listen to PM Ed? Honestly.

(Ignoring the fact that you just picked and chose between the programmes I listed)

Sorry I was thinking of The World At One!

The last time I heard John Humphrys interview someone it was a self-absorbed verbal fencing match from which nothing was learned.

The UK political content of BBC News is utterly Westminster-centric, how can you deny that? That may be where the power is, but I’m really not interested in hearing about the machinations of politicians, I want to know what is happening on the ground.

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J. B’Stard. wrote:

I must have imagined all those interviewers giving the government a hard time since he went

You cited PM which is completely Westminster-centric, and therefore completely distorted. Just because it criticises the government doesn’t mean it’s not propaganda. It’s almost always about some minor technical point of order, when these are life and death matters.

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General Lighting wrote:

canada’s are OK; some of the French and German ones produce good stuff (but of course you need to to understand the language, or tune in on shortwave for English broadcasts)

but do they have a choice? everyone has to pay the licence fee or they get nicked. Thats what I object to TBH

I know Canada produces decent films and comedy. In Germany though the public broadcasters are not up to much (I used to live there). Some of the locally produced stuff is excellent but it’s very rare. Unfortunately the schedules are full of dubbed American trash.

I’d much prefer to see a minimal licence fee being spent on programming that wouldn’t otherwise get made. That side of things has little to do with the commercial mass-market bollocks that ITV does so well.

andy – radio 4 has done the most over time – the list of successes that started there is unending

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Mr Fixxy wrote:

bbc lay off half the accounts dept and suddenly the press is full of moles giving away confidential information.

I think the bbc are doing a cracking job btw.

you mean the shock news that Terry Wogan earns £800,000?

the BBC makes good programmes and wasting the money on celebrity pisses me off but if it’s what the public want I have to accept that I’m in the minority

but you could still keep Auntie as an outlet for news, information and a training ground for new talent… thats what every other nation does with their public broadcasters and it hasn’t affected them that badly TBH

but most other nations’ public broadcasters are rubbish!

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Jon_tooth wrote:

Proper lame mate.

Ed Hollyhock was at my house offering me a lift there and back and I still didn’t go.

:bigsmile:

Yeah well I was gonna kidnap you but you had just taken a fit bird on a tour of the house, ie. straight upstairs and into your bedroom so I went and picked up Katie and Andy from the other house party…

:bigsmile:

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